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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 21 2016 02:42 GMT
#28
/in

just played my first game on TL, and enjoyed myself thoroughly, even if I was the ol' mafia goon. Hopefully this game I can be VT/blue so I have less to stress about
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 24 2016 01:40 GMT
#88
God damn is Palmar always this rude to people lol
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 25 2016 01:44 GMT
#92
On January 25 2016 10:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 10:40 darthfoley wrote:
God damn is Palmar always this rude to people lol

No

But rudeness is relative here


I only asked because I just played in a game where it stayed almost completely civil throughout
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 25 2016 21:58 GMT
#134
damn it I was hyped to start tonight
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 03:31 GMT
#144
Me too. Looking forward to that RNG Godfather flip
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 17:32 GMT
#163
Can we just make sure it starts tonight somehow
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 21:36 GMT
#197
Excited to get this game going. I'll be on and off most of tonight, and generally free past 2pm EST. Let's hunt some scum
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 21:42 GMT
#202
I was mafia with Kush last game so I have a bit of experience with his scum play. We got our asses kicked though
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 21:43 GMT
#203
he did help successfully defend me from a lynch that game tho so shoutouts to you kush
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 21:58 GMT
#205
Kinda sorta. Although in my last game as mafia, we lost our roleblocker D0 or D1 because he was playing against his meta and had crappy posts + inactivity.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 22:06 GMT
#213
On January 27 2016 07:03 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 06:39 Onegu wrote:
But serious Shape trying to meta read kush(nooninsong) before he even posts is weird as fuck.

What exactly is weird about anything Shapelog did? Specifics please.


The infamous Eden. Thankfully in this game I can answer your queries without having to worry about scum slipping
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 22:09 GMT
#217
On January 27 2016 07:07 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Alright enough about meta reads
we should come up with a strategy


What do you suggest?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 22:19 GMT
#223
You mean, discuss what the blue roles would do IF they in fact are in the setup?

Discussing blue roles in depth too early is dangerous for the town. That information is really valuable for mafia, ESPECIALLY because their setup is the same for each of the 4 possibilities.

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 22:32 GMT
#232
I just checked Shapelog, and yea OP says that scum was told what setup is being used. So meh. I'm pretty sure that is only in newbie games though
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 26 2016 22:40 GMT
#243
Fact is, we won't have much to go on until the rest of the game starts interacting. Each day is 2 days so we have plenty of time lol
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 27 2016 01:03 GMT
#275
Kush, i'm pretty sure that this wording indicates that mafia does know the specific setup, given that every mafia setup is the same.

The mafia will be informed as to which setup is chosen, but the town will not!


Could be wrong, but that seems pretty explicit, no?


3. Slight mafiaread on Darthfoley
I would've expected him to be more excited about rolling town considering his previous game. His posting also feels a little casual and uninvested at times:


I am excited. To be fair, it's hard to be invested when only ~4 of 13 players have posted (when my quote you've used was written). I feel no pressure in terms of slip ups and stuff like that because i'm town, so I think it makes perfect sense that I come off as casual, especially on D1.

I like what Noon has thought up so far regarding PeppermintTea; I don't think it makes much sense to read someone's nervousness as a newbie town read. WIFOM but I was super stressed out and had no idea how to get my footing when I played mafia as my first game. If you're going to read someone as nervous, I think the right lean would naturally be scum.

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 27 2016 02:04 GMT
#282
I think that Alur's A + B reasoning on Shapelog...

1. Shapelog is the most scummy player to me.

Reason A: Announcing you have some sort of tell on a player(noon), before he has even posted seems like a really bad idea. If hes mafia he can now attempt to replicate his his VT play from "the last two games", and even if he doesn't do "the tell" he'll be more prepared to defend himself from Shapelog.

Reason B: He was the first to bring up the possible setups. Before the game started I considered if there would be any merit for town to discuss setups on D1, and I concluded that talking about it before anyone had claimed anything would be probably be useless. Bringing up useless stuff doesn't further the town agenda.


...makes it more likely that Shapelog is town tbh. Inexperienced mafia might do one of those two things, but doing them both within a short amount of time feels like he was just posting stream of consciousness, which is hard to replicate if you're inexperienced mafia. Repeated mistakes like this going forward and my opinion of Shapelog will change. I'm also not sure I understand where Alur is going with point A: he's saying that Shapelog's read comment could alter Noon's play if Noon is mafia, while also using this as evidence towards mafia!Shapelog. What motivation would a mafia have to post this "future read" for a town? I agree that talking about his Noon read is not smart, but it's a bad idea as town giving mafia a way out of being read, rather than scum giving a town a way out of being mislynched. Not sure why you read this as a scum lean.

I'm also curious about MexicanAlien's pattern he mentioned. I'd like to hear more about that. I'm reading his aggressive stance vs. Shapelog as town lean right now, because I can see why a newer player would come to the conclusion that Shapelog is scummy given his posts so far.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 27 2016 02:21 GMT
#286
Welcome to the party, Kuragari!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 27 2016 02:28 GMT
#289
Just FYI Shapelog, it was a little joke to Eden because as Artanis after my last game with Eden, Eden "had me by the balls" early on reading me correctly as scum.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 27 2016 02:29 GMT
#290
as Artanis (the host) said*
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