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On October 22 2015 06:06 Vivax wrote:
##Vote yamato77
Cause he complained about flavour.
Because you feel he tried too hard to say something funny, and is therefore making a noticeable effort to try and blend in, or because you consider any anti chocolate agenda heresy?
also
I'm thinking of a general strategy to kickstart this thing and skip the banter.
It usually involves getting on the nerves of some prickly dude.
not a bad idea
##vote vivax
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On October 22 2015 06:19 Vivax wrote:
That's ballsy gumbro
me no play long time / : I'm all pent up, but aside from that, it wasn't ballsy at all. You set the value of the vote. That value is equivalent to that of a hat. Atm voting for someone is the equivalent of storing your hat on a rack. Basically for the first day we all have awesome racks but shitty hats. As the game goes on, our racks will deteriorate, the wood changing from fine oak to base mahogany, but our hats shall grow in splendor. Soon they will be both outlandish and dignified. Not just one flavor, but two in conjunction. Chocolate and Vannila in perfect harmony.
Vivax would you consider yourself a prickly dude?
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On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it.
Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition.
In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat.
1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum.
2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_-
3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health.
we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely.
ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good)
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On October 22 2015 06:34 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 06:31 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 06:19 Vivax wrote:
That's ballsy gumbro me no play long time / : I'm all pent up, but aside from that, it wasn't ballsy at all. You set the value of the vote. That value is equivalent to that of a hat. Atm voting for someone is the equivalent of storing your hat on a rack. Basically for the first day we all have awesome racks but shitty hats. As the game goes on, our racks will deteriorate, the wood changing from fine oak to base mahogany, but our hats shall grow in splendor. Soon they will be both outlandish and dignified. Not just one flavor, but two in conjunction. Chocolate and Vannila in perfect harmony. Vivax would you consider yourself a prickly dude? Do you think vivax is mafia?
I don't think hes anything atm, were just talking, and hes a cozy rack.
Specifically I get the sense hes trying to create discussion keep it on point, but hes good enough to do that either way / : let ya know if something changes : P
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On October 22 2015 07:00 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it. Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition. In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat. 1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum. 2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_- 3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health. we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely. ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good) Well I think it's better than the standard "hi" / "I'm town" openings 
Bh, question, if your town please be honest : D were you planning this from the get go? Did you have your post pre written? When did you conceive the idea to use the random tl tag info? Would you have done this if you were mafia?
if this was all pre thought up (which it seems to me it was) than it might not be any better than a glorified "hi, im town."
not that this at all detracts from your argument for rng(which has it's convincing points but I still feel is a last resort) it's the possibility of you using this opening banter as an aegis that worries mah / :
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On October 22 2015 07:26 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 07:15 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 07:00 Xatalos wrote:On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it. Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition. In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat. 1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum. 2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_- 3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health. we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely. ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good) Well I think it's better than the standard "hi" / "I'm town" openings Bh, question, if your town please be honest : D were you planning this from the get go? Did you have your post pre written? When did you conceive the idea to use the random tl tag info? Would you have done this if you were mafia? if this was all pre thought up (which it seems to me it was) than it might not be any better than a glorified "hi, im town." not that this at all detracts from your argument for rng(which has it's convincing points but I still feel is a last resort) it's the possibility of you using this opening banter as an aegis that worries mah / : "From the get go" --> I wasn't particularly thinking of using RNG, but it's one of my most useful tools for hunting and lynching scum. I'd say I use it more often than not nowadays when I play. When the game started, I was like "you know what would be great here? Given the setup and the player list, this is perfect for RNG" and then I did it. "pre written" --> I copied/pasted it from the last time I used RNG, then filled in the names and list size from this game. The second RNG post where I announced the result, I also copied/pasted, so in a sense, yes, this was prewritten "when did you think of random tl tag info?" --> I first thought of this idea in September of 2013, and I used it for the first time in November 2013. Since then I've used it probably 5-10 times in games here on TL. "would you have done this if you were mafia?" --> the answer to this question is always "yes". I'm willing to lie, cheat, steal, doctor photographs, put items in boxes, fake plane tickets, pretend to have depression, a death in the family, etc, whatever it takes to win regardless of alignment. I'm one of the few players that does not pull punches as mafia. So yes, as mafia, I'd be fully willing to RNG if I percieved it to be a good idea (which it isn't; I've outlined why RNG is pro-town this game)
oks : D thanks for answers.
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On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it. Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition. In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat. 1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum. 2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_- 3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health. we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely. ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good) this. this is a big post of nonsense.
this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere.
I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf.
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On October 22 2015 06:45 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 06:44 Xatalos wrote:On October 22 2015 06:41 ritoky wrote:On October 22 2015 06:39 Xatalos wrote:On October 22 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
gumshoe might be mafia. Why? poorly explained response, forced joke, clear post editing, extra lines at the end of post. Clear post editing? I agree he's felt a bit "forced" with his entrance. at start of game mafia more likely to re-read and edit their post than town is. town more prone to be natural. the lines at the end, the changes between capitalizing and not capitalizing, and some other aspects shows he read and edited the post.
I ether try super duper hard hard in games and edit/wot to the max, or I just sort of sit there thinking about posting but dont. It's not paticularly alignment indicative, but I usually try harder as town then maf, so in my case the post really is more of a town tell, a showing of effort, meticulousness and a desire to be funny is actually a good sign of townshoe / :
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On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it. Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition. In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat. 1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum. 2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_- 3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health. we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely. ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good) this. this is a big post of nonsense. this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere. I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf. Can you tldr your tldr?
Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. Plus I think BH doesnt actually think theres gonna be an rng lynch, his post is just a way to look daring plus active as ethier alignment. I wasnt a fan of him becoming entrenched as town based of something pretty neutral, the reason I posted was because I felt it wasnt obvius that his rng theory was neutral. Rng play is a risky one for scum, but if you assume town wont go for it and are just feigning the play to build filter, then it's totally neutral.
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On October 22 2015 08:18 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it. Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition. In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat. 1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum. 2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_- 3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health. we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely. ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good) this. this is a big post of nonsense. this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere. I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf. Can you tldr your tldr? Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. Plus I think BH doesnt actually think theres gonna be an rng lynch, his post is just a way to look daring plus active as ethier alignment. I wasnt a fan of him becoming entrenched as town based of something pretty neutral, the reason I posted was because I felt it wasnt obvius that his rng theory was neutral. Rng play is a risky one for scum, but if you assume town wont go for it and are just feigning the play to build filter, then it's totally neutral. gumshoe you need to work on your tldr. TL;DR: BH's RNG post=null See how that works?
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On October 22 2015 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it. Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition. In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat. 1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum. 2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_- 3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health. we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely. ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good) this. this is a big post of nonsense. this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere. I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf. Can you tldr your tldr? Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. . explain
Remember that time you tunneled me until I swore on my life? Then got drunk and imploded? (taking koshi along with you) pretty sure you mislynched me twice as well. my memories of you are not particularly pleasant overall ) :
Ritoky- his argument vs me was fine, he hasnt played much vs me so the things he pointed out are reasonable, I also liked his confidence over Bh. Generally hes to the point, and decicive. Reads to me as confident town.
Chrom- dont like how he went after ritoky when ritoky was just rolling perception plus charisma. I wasn't being particularly townie at the time yet he seemed confident that ritoky was needlessly pouncing / : could be insider knowledge? Also his start is kinda awkward. Reading as scummy.
Still leaving my vote on vivax though, because he has the superior rack,
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On October 22 2015 08:24 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 08:22 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 08:18 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 22 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it. Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition. In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat. 1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum. 2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_- 3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health. we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely. ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good) this. this is a big post of nonsense. this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere. I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf. Can you tldr your tldr? Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. Plus I think BH doesnt actually think theres gonna be an rng lynch, his post is just a way to look daring plus active as ethier alignment. I wasnt a fan of him becoming entrenched as town based of something pretty neutral, the reason I posted was because I felt it wasnt obvius that his rng theory was neutral. Rng play is a risky one for scum, but if you assume town wont go for it and are just feigning the play to build filter, then it's totally neutral. gumshoe you need to work on your tldr. TL;DR: BH's RNG post=null See how that works? I like words. I found some for you: Show nested quote +
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The more I think about it, the more I read ritoky as town, he seems like hes honestly having fun and is at ease. Hes also not scared of being wrong (if he was mafia hed know I was town, might be more hesitant to be the source of a wagon on me)
He probally keyed into my own nervousness because of his own good state of play.
That doesn't proportionately make chrom scummier but his weird xata exchange comes off as shallow and pointless. That in conjunction with his pounce on rit are making his rack more attractive by the second.
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On October 22 2015 08:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like if gumshoe is mafia here am i not supposed to say anything on him because i was "mean to him" in another game or what?
historically you are usually wrong about my active play. That does and should make a difference in how people consider your inevitable/doomed and or scummy tunnel of me.
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On October 22 2015 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 08:46 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 08:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like if gumshoe is mafia here am i not supposed to say anything on him because i was "mean to him" in another game or what? historically you are usually wrong about my active play. That does and should make a difference in how people consider your inevitable/doomed and or scummy tunnel of me. And because of that you are allowed to say that every time from back then and now on and i can't call you mafia? fine. Who do you think is scum?
No,simply that you should acknowledge that your bad at reading my alignment when im actually playing / : similar to how I'm actually shit at catching mafia in general. Historically all my big cases that I've dumped a ton of passion and love in to have been ugly busts.
I'm taking a more dispassionate stance this game and though I will certainly provide reads free of charge I rather not be pushed incessantly to do so and become enamored with my own garbage.
I'm kinda tired of being the proto pants on head townie, whose only use is to prove his townie alignment via his imaginative stupidity. I'm playing to win this time : P so when and if I have good reads, you'll hearem(may very well just sheep /  . For now I think chrome is scum based off what I said before, but that might change if the situation calls for it.
Bh is probally town (i liked the answers he gave and read his filter a bit more), Ritoky is town, your a meanie and everyone else except chrome is not particularly notable.
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On October 22 2015 09:07 Vivax wrote:
GB there are two options here, you're either lying or in a tabledance class
How old is Gb? Night classes maybe?
Gb you legal?
To be honest I wouldn't care about something so small If I hadn't felt pressured as mafia to tell a similar lie before / : something about being at the park with mah doge all day.
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On October 22 2015 09:20 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 09:18 gumshoe wrote:On October 22 2015 09:07 Vivax wrote:
GB there are two options here, you're either lying or in a tabledance class How old is Gb? Night classes maybe? Gb you legal? To be honest I wouldn't care about something so small If I hadn't felt pressured as mafia to tell a similar lie before / : something about being at the park with mah doge all day. I think GB is ever so slightly my elder At 25, I am well into night class zones
probably a moot pursuit then ) :
while your here what do you think of xatalos? Personally I feel as if he dedicates alot of talk to the rng thing without actually looking into what it meant about Bh. Burning filter basically. I also get the feeling that hes using my lurky history as a way to waffle on me, thereby positioning himself to go ether way depending on town.
Dunno. I really don't know how gumshoe should be read. You know? I remember him being a really inactive/bad town once and he was basically policy lynched. Then he was extremely similar as scum and managed to survive like that (I even defended him because of him being similar as town earlier lol). Here he's surprisingly actually posting stuff... Or has he started generally posting lately?
Hm... I've only ever seen him being semi-permanently AFK.
Well so far Blazinghand and Vivax feel town. ritoky too? Not as sure about Chromatically yet. yamato and gumshoe are in the gray area.
Of course, rayn = scum.
Hm so you think gumshoe is lightly town? I guess his attempt at playing so far has been decent compared to my past experiences with him......
Tbh I think any of yamato/gumshoe/Chromatically could be scum atm. None of them feel strongly that way though.
And how would you characterize his meta? My experience has been basically "scummy lurker as either alignment".
Would also like to know why you put ritoky as town as especially marv.
He eventually seems to settle on me bieng town, but by then I think the general sentiment was favoring me? if that makes sense / : he just seems very wishy washy, which we all are somewhat at the start of course, but his posting comes off as very repetitive and pointless. He talks about the rng vote, but doesn't infer any reads from it, he jokes alot about the rain vote but again doesn't derive anything from it. Hes just commenting on stuff that means nothing, and cautiously testing the waters with his uncertain reads.
would also explain his weird early interaction with chrom, someone hes kinda pushing but not really.
I'm open to bieng wrong this game, Xata may very well just be perplexed by my bieng really active, but for now I'm reading him as red / :
I go bed now. good night : D
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