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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 29 2015 06:04 GMT
#40
/in:open

Hoping to get you a newbie signup will know by tomorrow
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 31 2015 03:55 GMT
#75
On August 31 2015 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
But I usually drink cheap beer. Always a bliss


It sounds like you would fit in well in Aus
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 22:40 GMT
#174
On September 05 2015 07:33 Superbia wrote:
Counterclaim.


Counterclaim the counterclaim
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 22:46 GMT
#183
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 22:52 GMT
#187
On September 05 2015 07:47 Superbia wrote:
What exactly are you expecting, bresh?


To participate in Day 1

On September 05 2015 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Breshke do you have reasons to believe:
1) i am town
2) yamato is town?


nope. The only person I have a town lean on is GB
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 22:54 GMT
#190
On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting.


I don't expect you too.

I won't be explaining why I like his posting either before anyone asks
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 23:00 GMT
#196
On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting.

I want him to answer me.
I dislike Breshke the most.

The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything.

meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path.


How is it out of place? Why are you taking the post 100% seriously? Do you honestly believe that I am telling everyone to do nothing other than you and yamato.

I don't really get where you are coming from rayn
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 23:04 GMT
#205
On September 05 2015 08:02 Superbia wrote:
Breshke, what were your thoughts behind that post?


I was 100% posting just to post.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 23:07 GMT
#210
On September 05 2015 08:04 Superbia wrote:
Why?


To get myself involved with the game as i find it hard to participate in Day 1's if im not going from the get go.

Why did anyone post their first few posts. This is fucking stupid can i just say.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 23:29 GMT
#231
On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started?


9

@rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role.

I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 23:38 GMT
#238
On September 05 2015 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started?


9

@rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role.

I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it.

Well you will play if you are town. I know that. I am not calling you definite scum or anything.

And yes, i think it's the optimal play. Just because at worst you got a guaranteed mafia with 1-1 trade.
Blue roles do not win the games, lynching mafia does.


Nah I know and i understand that you are clearly frustrated and that can help explain how you have reacted to things.

I think im going to just agree to disagree because i don't see how you could think GB was certain mafia after what he did and this isn't going anywhere.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 23:40 GMT
#240
On September 05 2015 08:38 CopCake wrote:
I don't like Breshke comment but first

Do I know you or have I played voice mafia with you?


You don't know me.

I wanna try voice mafia but time-zones are so shit for me
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 04 2015 23:41 GMT
#242
I also take back my townlean on GB that i never explained.

I also won't explain why im taking it back
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 05 2015 00:05 GMT
#264
On September 05 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:38 Breshke wrote:
I think im going to just agree to disagree because i don't see how you could think GB was certain mafia after what he did and this isn't going anywhere.

I do not think he is certain mafia.
I think he has a 50% chance of being mafia if someone "counter-claims" him.

This is a newbie game. Like the basics of this game, and how you prove yourself as town and help the town, are:
1) town benefits from clarity
2) town benefits from direction
3) town benefits from people working together

Do you think anything Glowingbear has done is achieving either of these things?
Because to me it looks like the opposite. And that's what MAFIA benefits from.

Even if we go with the simplest thing basically everyone should know in this game; If i ask someone "are you really saying this", they should know i am being 100% serious and i want a serious answer because i don't like people playing around with stuff they should not. If they do not give me a serious answer, and they are town, it will relatively hinder the town's capabilities of finding mafia, because then i will be caught into something i can't make any sense out of. Because it DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE.

So yeah, there is pretty much no townie agenda behind Glowingbears actions.


I still disagree. I don't think GB was being serious.Can i ask why you needed clarification in the first place? Why did it matter to you if GB was vigi or not?

Of course I agree with the rest but still it was early like i don't see it as that much of a distraction. I don't care to defend GB too much here though because he has seemingly just pissed off now.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 05 2015 00:11 GMT
#274
On September 05 2015 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:38 Breshke wrote:
I think im going to just agree to disagree because i don't see how you could think GB was certain mafia after what he did and this isn't going anywhere.

I do not think he is certain mafia.
I think he has a 50% chance of being mafia if someone "counter-claims" him.

This is a newbie game. Like the basics of this game, and how you prove yourself as town and help the town, are:
1) town benefits from clarity
2) town benefits from direction
3) town benefits from people working together

Do you think anything Glowingbear has done is achieving either of these things?
Because to me it looks like the opposite. And that's what MAFIA benefits from.

Even if we go with the simplest thing basically everyone should know in this game; If i ask someone "are you really saying this", they should know i am being 100% serious and i want a serious answer because i don't like people playing around with stuff they should not. If they do not give me a serious answer, and they are town, it will relatively hinder the town's capabilities of finding mafia, because then i will be caught into something i can't make any sense out of. Because it DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE.

So yeah, there is pretty much no townie agenda behind Glowingbears actions.


I still disagree. I don't think GB was being serious.Can i ask why you needed clarification in the first place? Why did it matter to you if GB was vigi or not?

Because i want it to be 100% clear to everyone in the game, not just me.


mmk fair enough

On September 05 2015 08:38 CopCake wrote:
I don't like Breshke comment but first

Do I know you or have I played voice mafia with you?


Copcake I felt this implied you had a follow up after i answered. Does it?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 05 2015 00:54 GMT
#320
Im confused. Which post are people asking if it was sarcastic? The yamato/rayn one?

IDK if i would call it sarcasm it was more a joke im not sure if it is exactly sarcasm though because if rayn and yamato are town and both want to try hard this game then I believe they can very likely get us scum lynches.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 05 2015 00:58 GMT
#325
Is it that time? Are we going to start measuring dicks soon? Noobking didnt you purposly antagonize people in the game we played together and you were mafia?

Rayn you said you liked what moosey was doing not how he was doing it. OR something along those lines can you explain it. I can go find the post if need be.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 05 2015 01:08 GMT
#338
On September 05 2015 10:00 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
noobking says "GB's case is good"

False. I agreed with his post saying that the things you had posted were bullshit. His post does not ever say that it's supposed to be any kind of a "case" against you, nor did I call it one.
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
By your own definition you should not think i am mafia.

For the second time...by my own definition of WHAT?


On September 05 2015 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:52 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and that's why noobking is mafia.

- calls me mafia for something he does not know if it makes me mafia by his definition

By my definition of what?
Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?

On September 05 2015 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- "I'm not sure his (Breshke's) tone was sarcastic, but we can have him clarify. "
when:
On September 05 2015 08:04 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:02 Superbia wrote:
Breshke, what were your thoughts behind that post?

I was 100% posting just to post.

gg found scum.

If you're Town, you're embarrassing yourself. Someone "posting just to post" does NOT mean they were being sarcastic.

Glowingbear's case on me is "rayn is making ridiculous conclusions with no basis"
noobking says "##vote rayn"
noobking says "GB's case is good"
noobking says "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"

By your own definition you should not think i am mafia.


Okay what is happening here (im fairly sure)

SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"

He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.

Does this change the way you see things rayn?

Also your response on moosey makes sense but i think iw as talking about a different post but i can't find it anyway.

Is the slam thing that he was here at the start of the game seeming excited then just decided to leave?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 05 2015 01:09 GMT
#340
I might be doing that thing where im stopping people pressure people but i can't help it when someones post gets misunderstood and its going to take like 6 years for it to get worked out on its own
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 05 2015 01:33 GMT
#363
On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"

He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.

The why doesn't he fucking clarify it?
Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else.

Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII?
Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it.


He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e.

If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone

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