EPTWill have time for this and someone has to stop tictock from tunneling!
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Barakos
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Will have time for this and someone has to stop tictock from tunneling! | ||
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Barakos
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On July 20 2015 01:12 Tictock wrote: Barakos prob mafia for not wanting me to tunnel him... :p and so the tunneling begins... :D | ||
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Barakos
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Also: This looks really like NSM X... and scott was mafia there, too! | ||
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Barakos
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In case KP is delivered, which one resolves first, vig or mafia-kp? | ||
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On July 24 2015 01:44 Half the Sky wrote: Pretty nice seeing all new blood coming in our doors. Who is going to conduct the classic TL initiation for the first timers? *gathers a bag of nooses*  Hmmmm, looks like it's just Barakos and Mage...but still, who says we can't have a little bit of pre-game fun  First timer? You a) didn't read the thread and b) forgot NSM X where i was in and you were coaching... shame on you! Now I am sad and angry at the same time. =( This is actually my 3rd game here... :p | ||
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Barakos
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I just don't get all the frozen-hate... just... let it go! :D | ||
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Will be here, lurking aroung and posting in some hours... playing hero siege with a friend atm. | ||
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On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote: Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! | ||
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Barakos
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On July 24 2015 09:05 disformation wrote: Yeah, I was having trouble with that as town especially in the last game I was playing. I tend to waffle around a bit and I really dislike last minute shenanies and stuff. Makes me nervous and do bad decisions. Ticktock can attest to that. xD Anybody, who has read even the tiniest bit of NSM X can attest to that. :p | ||
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But I like to base my votes/reads off of information and someone not posting doesn't give anything to read him. | ||
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On July 24 2015 10:29 MoosyDoosy wrote: Barakos how many games of Mafia have you played. Also if Breshke can answer this as well. 3rd time playing mafia... other games were Newbie LVIII and NSM X On July 24 2015 18:00 Rels wrote: Like some other people in the thread, I also found Barakos super weird. Especially since like some guys also playing, I played my first game with him in Newbie X, and in that game he was very logical and straightforward in his posts. Fluff, very different from his first post in Newbie X where he was already analyzing disfo's filter. And this post is so unlike him I feel: This post is not how I remember Barakos playing. It's just supposition without conclusions. And this part is super ironic: LOL That's basically the reaction I would have expected from everyone playing with me for a longer time in NSM X. Strong townread of Rels atm. Also a slightly weaker townlean on Damdred for pointing it out as well. What I want to point out is disformations behavior. He has several posts (see spoilers below), saying he has shadowed player X in that game and player Y in this game and will reread all those games to get a read on ruxxar because his tone is so completely different from the other games. But when I come into the thread with fluff (something I never did in NSM X, where he played with me for the entire game), he doesn't pick it up at all and sees no difference in my behavior, even though he claims to be looking for meta-hints and stuff like that. The only thing he did was putting me to null and saying he wants to see more of me. This inconsistency makes me put him in the scum-corner for now. + Show Spoiler + On July 24 2015 08:21 disformation wrote: Yes, I was shadowing a town player (Onegu in Himalayas and Half the Sky in Gaiden). Both games were pretty long, ruxXar's filters are 13 and 25 pages respectively so it is not that easy to summarize. But what I can remember: while he is good at marking arguments and sounding logically his posts often sound preachy. I also remember disliking a bunch of his posts in Himalayas because he was pretty aggressive/pushy with them. Will possibly reread his filters from both games at a later stage of this game. On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote: Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. On July 24 2015 10:15 disformation wrote: Going to bed. Hope I can sleep in this heat. -.- Where I currently stand: Breshke: Asking questions. Let us see what he does when he gets answers. NocturneMage: Seems like an eager player trying to figure out how forum mafia works. Seems curious/inquisitive. town lean. ruxXar: Basically opened up the thread with stuff to talk about. A lot of null stuff. Slight town as result. n00bKing: did a few things for town cred. Unfortunately both(*) were super easy for mafia to do, too. So null. barakos: hmmm... lets call it null for now. Want to see more from him. Damdred: Just read his strong entry (his 2nd post). Like the post. Also want to note that I shadowed town!Damdred in Holy Guardians Chapter 1 and he was mafia in Gaiden (where I shadowed town!HtS). So I might look into these two games later on. I remember his reads/thought progression to be very reasonable as town, so might pay extra attention to that. Town read as of now. (*): a) asking me about ruxxars previous games. b) pointing out that I am unable to count. PS: Also my 3rd game here. :D | ||
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Barakos
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On July 24 2015 18:29 Rels wrote: And whoever you are, I would like to have your thoughts about my post on NocturneMage. On July 24 2015 18:46 Rels wrote: No you don't get it. I'm not saying NocturneMage prepared his post before the game started. I'm saying he thought long and hard before he posted it, instead of being free of mind and posting what he felt. The evidence that he thought long and hard before posting it is the fact that there are 3 different subjects in the post. Then, I'm saying that the fact that he is not free of mind posting his first post may indicate he's mafia. I don't think you can really read something into people thinking about their posts before they click on "Post". It's the start of a newbie-game so people will be nervous about not saying the wrong thing and think a bit harder about what they write. So yes... you are right that the post covers a lot of topics and seems not written freely but I don't think this is alignment-indicative yet. What I found more suspicious about his filter is the following: On July 24 2015 07:22 NocturneMage wrote: He seems relieved to be town, assuming he's telling the truth, though the poetry makes me think he's more high than he is mafia. Do you think he's mafia? On July 24 2015 07:27 NocturneMage wrote: Is that alignment indicative for ruXxar? I'm guessing it is if that was a scum game of his? On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote: It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? He has made 6 posts an in 3 of them he is asking people about their reads and if they thing someone is mafia or not. The other 3 were the entry-post you mentioned and 2 posts are him talking about his rl-mafia-experience. There is no sign of independent thinking and the questions he puts up all concern the opinion others have about someone else. To me this looks like scum trying to find angles for a misslynch. So while I don't like your case that much, I like the suspicion about NocturneMage. | ||
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Barakos
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On July 24 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Barakos claims he is scummy. Barakos why would you make intentionally scummy posts as town? Obviously to get reactions from people? And I even got some reactions, that gave me reads about Rels and disformation as I explained in my post... I expected to get called out on it by the people that played with me in NSM X, so call it a reactiontest, that Rels passed, whereas Tictock, Breshke and disformation failed. And to answer your next question, which will be, why I only called out disformation and not tictock and breshke as well: Breshke died N2, so he didn't play the whole game with me and tictock only came in, wrote some stuff about tarot and then left without leaving the impression of having read the thread, whereas disformation played the game till endgame. Rels picking up on this, even though he was lynched N1 in NSM X just shows how attentative he is when reading people. | ||
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Barakos
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On July 24 2015 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Barakos i would like you to elaborate onto your read on Barakos. Why is the post you have been called out for scummy? I'll basically repeat, what Damdred and Rels already said, but since it will also answer Damdreds question: There are basically 3 things, that are suspicious about that post: 1) Fluff in the beginning 2) Writing a lot of stuff that doesn't lead to substandial accusations or graspable reads. You can read some scum-leans into some points, but I never really point the finger at someone. 3) It's totally out of line with my townplay from NSM X. I didn't do fluff there and my first post was basically a case on disformation. Rels pointed out all 3 and even found a 4th, where I contradict myself by saying I don't like you making your first post, which could be read as "this is my post for the day, cya" (which it obviously didn't mean, since you are here) and me saying I'll be lurking for a few hours. (A contradiction I honestly don't see, but I can see, how someone could find it ironic). Damdred pointed out 1, so there you go, Damdred... stronger townread for rels. Hope this answers both of your questions. | ||
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