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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 16 2015 18:03 GMT
#31
/in>
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2015 02:35 GMT
#171
On May 18 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote:
Well Palmar is town that's my first town read of the game.


Thats a bad read.
Why was Palmar town for scumreading you?

On May 18 2015 08:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I like Damdred's explanation this early. Sounds like possibly town.

I don't like Palmar's scumread on Damdred and suddenly peacing out.

How is palmar similar to assassination?

scib, feels a lot like you are making up a read for the sake of a read.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2015 02:53 GMT
#176
On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum.

Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game.

Plus hes done this before to me as town I think

This is saying "palmar wont do this as scum"".

Which is horrific reasoning.
Why wont he do this as scum? why is this specifically something only town Palmar does? Presumably hes wrong, so you are townreading someone for being wrong?!?!?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2015 03:10 GMT
#179
On May 18 2015 11:40 sciberbia wrote:

I'm sorry you feel that way Oats. Am I correct in inferring that you think my read on Zealos is a bad read? If so, what do you make of the fact that Damdred and Palmar agree with my read on Zealos?

well no not exactly, damdred never references your read when saying he has a scumread on zealos.
And same with Palmar.

I dont think that its bad to scumread zealos, but the reasons you brought up are all weak and I dont actually think wishy washy is a scumtell.

No reason better than bad reason.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2015 03:12 GMT
#180
At what point does that reasoning become horrific?

because its not backed up by anything and there is no supporting evidence saying that scumPalmar doesnt attack hard to mislynch people.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2015 06:32 GMT
#231
I saw that post, didnt pick up that he was talking to you.

Damdred is scummy, YES.
Lol come on Scib.

Also I hate it when people say they will lynch mafia but fail to mention who exactly should die. Which makes me feel like they arent sure about their top read.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2015 11:54 GMT
#239
On May 18 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote:
Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist.

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment.

Thank you!

rude.
has scib said anything weird?

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2015 14:22 GMT
#247
Shock, why would mafia post the exact same opening posts?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2015 04:36 GMT
#442
Palmar scum. Yup.
[b]##vote Palmar[b]

Also zealos is scum.
Vivax maybe,
On May 19 2015 00:41 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 00:40 Zealos wrote:
I mean scib is contributing from a towny standpoint so far, I'm just worried that his association with Damred is a bit off


The word standpoint exists in english?


On May 19 2015 00:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 00:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 19 2015 00:38 Vivax wrote:
The thing with scib is that he's an amazing player and while I had an agenda-y feeling about him at some point he's definitely nobody I want to lynch today. I actually might just sheep him and see if he wins the game for us or lynch him if he doesn't.


Is he?
I've never heard of him before.


He didn't play many games but for some reason he's super good as either alignment.

Safe bet to sheep if you TR him, I still have to decide if I take that risk.

useless posts.
and 'risk''? why does that even mean man.

meh, the only thing stopping me is assassination was similar in terms of activity.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2015 05:06 GMT
#445
Because just saying "lynch damdred and zealos" is not trying to win the game. And town palmar wants to win the game.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2015 08:56 GMT
#472
On May 19 2015 14:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 14:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because just saying "lynch damdred and zealos" is not trying to win the game. And town palmar wants to win the game.


iirc he totally has the capability to be lurky and useless as town.

I dont remember which game, but he said that his favourite day is day 1.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2015 09:51 GMT
#487
On May 19 2015 18:05 sciberbia wrote:
@Oats
Can you please respond to this post:
+ Show Spoiler [me] +

On May 19 2015 15:25 sciberbia wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Oats] +

On May 19 2015 13:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Palmar scum. Yup.
[b]##vote Palmar[b]

Also zealos is scum.
Vivax maybe,
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 00:41 Vivax wrote:
On May 19 2015 00:40 Zealos wrote:
I mean scib is contributing from a towny standpoint so far, I'm just worried that his association with Damred is a bit off


The word standpoint exists in english?


Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 00:46 Vivax wrote:
On May 19 2015 00:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 19 2015 00:38 Vivax wrote:
The thing with scib is that he's an amazing player and while I had an agenda-y feeling about him at some point he's definitely nobody I want to lynch today. I actually might just sheep him and see if he wins the game for us or lynch him if he doesn't.


Is he?
I've never heard of him before.


He didn't play many games but for some reason he's super good as either alignment.

Safe bet to sheep if you TR him, I still have to decide if I take that risk.

useless posts.
and 'risk''? why does that even mean man.

meh, the only thing stopping me is assassination was similar in terms of activity.


@Oats
Why is Zealos scum?
And what happened to me and damdred being scummy?

P.S. please put your vote in the voting thread



Also what do you think of Obi?

you no more scum.

Damdred also probably not scum.

Zealos, i dont like that he narrows down his lynches so early and his shitty meta read on Damdred feels really piggybacking off thread sentiment considering he never mentions it again.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2015 09:54 GMT
#488
Ok palmar is doing stuff, cool.
And different enough from assassination, Im pretty happy.

bleh qwerty's filter is really ugly, so is shockeys.


Yeah Vivax is it.
##vote Vivax
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2015 11:01 GMT
#491
Meh, some of zealos' posts are ok. Vivax' are worse.
It's like you expect vivax to change after dying d1 on pretty much the same situation.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2015 11:04 GMT
#492
Obi is casual as fuck which I like, not lynching him today.
Not that your case was bad, i just don't think the points are strong and some of them are personality rather than scum tells.

I would want to lynch palmar at the end if he never comes with with at least plausible reasons why you are scum scib. I'm totally not seeing what damdred and palmar are seeing.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2015 14:01 GMT
#497
On May 19 2015 21:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I still can't believe you guys don't see the alignment. I called three of them out and then I'm now the next target. If I would have never called them out, I wouldn't be set up to be lynched. Going to lose a very active town.

you are not a "very active town", dont kid yourself.

If you assume that associations dont exist, why are they scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2015 14:17 GMT
#501
On May 19 2015 23:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 23:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 19 2015 21:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I still can't believe you guys don't see the alignment. I called three of them out and then I'm now the next target. If I would have never called them out, I wouldn't be set up to be lynched. Going to lose a very active town.

you are not a "very active town", dont kid yourself.

If you assume that associations dont exist, why are they scum?


I've been more active than you have. What makes you assume that they're not scum?

THATS NOT A FUCKING LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT MAN.

Also, you have the burden to prove that they are scum, not the other way around.

Your connection/association thing is bonkers, is there anything else behind that?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2015 15:12 GMT
#505
You do realise that his shitlist isnt a scumlist?

Palmar hasnt been playing this game seriously at all in the first 24 hours, why didnt you use posts that are more recent.

Also no reasons in that post that say why Palmar or GB or Obi are scum independent of their "connection".
you cant just say "oh these 3 people are mafia because they agree with each other".

##vote Shockeyy
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2015 01:41 GMT
#703
damn it.

vivax is terrible.

Palmar, can you give me any reasons why Shockeyy is town ignoring the crazy shit.

qwertys switch looks really bad, 2bad2bscum is not a thing.
and his other posts dont exactly redeem him.

This damdred/gb shitfest feels a lot like town-town just because that both of them dont want to back down.

Give me reasons why stutters is mafia damdred.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2015 02:42 GMT
#707
On May 20 2015 11:00 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 10:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
qwertys switch looks really bad, 2bad2bscum is not a thing.


This isn't even a 2bad2bscum thing. Changing your vote at the last second to a different candidate isn't a bad play, if you really think there is new information that makes the person you were previously voting more likely to be town.

And Vivax turned out to be town. So the case on qwerty, if any, is really 2good2bscum. It boils down to:

Do you think it is possible that he really had a change of heart on Vivax and decided Vivax looked more townie? (I do)
Do you think it is possible that he really thought a voteswitch was possible? (I do)

Do you think that he was trying to make himself look better post-flip by waffling around at the last second? (I don't)

The only way you can answer yes to this last question is if you think qwerty is a moron. I could have told you 1000 times out of 1000 that he would get flak for that switch. And at least 3 people have already called him out on it.

I know I'm defending qwerty pretty hard but I just have a really gut feel that he is town. I remember this game from forever ago, Newbie Mini XV, in which funnily enough, Vivax self-voted at the end of day 2, and multiple townies suddenly thought he was town, but figured there wasn't time for a vote switch. I feel like I have seen other cases like this as well.

Well no, some people were bringing up the point that scum wont so obviously switch off a mislynch. I think they would.

And it is definitely to make himself look better. There is literally no other reason, as town or mafia to switch so late without other people doing it.

No gg, No skill.
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