above is THE JOYOUS, LAKE
below is KEEPING STILL, MOUNTAIN

Influence. Success.

When a weak element is above (the lake) and a strong element is below (the mountain), their powers attract each other so that they unite. This brings about success, for all success depends on the effect of mutual attraction

Perseverance furthers.

By keeping still within while experiencing joy without, one can prevent the joy from going to excess and hold it within proper bounds. This is the meaning of, "Perseverance furthers."

To take a maiden to wife brings good fortune

Heaven and earth attract each other and thus all creatures come into being. From the attractions they exert we can learn the nature of all beings in heaven and on earth.

A lake on the mountain:
The image of influence.
Thus the superior man encourages people to approach him
By his readiness to receive them.

A mountain with a lake on its summit is stimulated by the moisture from the lake. It has this advantage because its summit does not jut out as a peak but is sunken. The image counsels that the mind should be kept humble and free, so that it may remain receptive to good advice. People soon give up counseling a man who thinks that he knows everything better than anyone else.

The influence shows itself in the calves of the legs.
Misfortune.
Tarrying brings good fortune.

In movement, the calf of the leg follows the foot; by itself it can neither go forward nor stand still. Since the movement is not self-governed, it bodes ill. One should wait quietly until one is impelled to action by a real influence. Then one remains uninjured.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 21 2015 22:42 GMT

#142

On May 22 2015 07:39 Tictock wrote:
Batsnacks are you throwing Iching reading for us?

On a scale of 1 to 10 how relevant is this reading and which parts do you think best apply to the game or good town play in general?

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 21 2015 22:53 GMT

#148

On May 22 2015 07:45 disformation wrote:

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Still can't process the lake floating in the sky above the mountain. Might take some time to answer questions regarding actual content. xD

The lake isn't floating that wouldn't make any sense. It's just a lake at the top of a mountain like at the summit or something.

On May 22 2015 07:45 Tictock wrote:

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Before I answer, what was on your mind as you cast your sticks (or coins, w/e you used)?

Newbie Student Mafia X was on my mind. duh.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 21 2015 22:57 GMT

#150

On May 22 2015 07:55 Tictock wrote:

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Oh? Why is he scum?

On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote:
it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool

That's your second DUH. Three strikes and yer outta here!

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 21 2015 23:18 GMT

#157

@tictok (is your screen name based on the novel by John Sladek btw?)

I had a different opinion on the calf following the foot. I took it to mean that it is better to be quiet until there is a reason to speak than to just do meaningless things for no reason. Which isn't necessarily true in mafia but that's the meaning my mind seemed to wander after.

I think there is a lot of value in vague words and how people interpret them so I post iching inspired stuff a lot in mafia games.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 21 2015 23:44 GMT

#165

I mean I got my role PM 24 hours ago so... I guess I also realize that the scum qt was given out 24 hours ago.

SL you scumread me for that?

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 21 2015 23:57 GMT

#169

@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.

Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.

##vote: sicklucker

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 22 2015 00:04 GMT

#171

On May 22 2015 09:01 disformation wrote:
Uh. Didn't realize the Mafia QT would be open since 24h either. Otherwise I would have said something about his cheap read. xD
Still not seeing a lot to lynch sicklucker though. I kinda expected him to post "lol didn't read" stuff regardless of his alignment anyway. Though he was super eager to paint himself townie:

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Solid town read on Tictock for now. Asking all the questions I wish I had asked. xD
I agree that BM should explain his bunnies vote, if he is as serious as he claims.

You're probably going to hit a wall here because he is almost certainly as serious as he claims. He has fired his shot the ball is in our court now.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 22 2015 16:54 GMT

#379

Wow lots of Europeans in this game. I skimmed the last 5ish pages.

I have items of interest:

Rels you should narrow down your "would lynch" list to at most 2 people, preferably one. Having too many "would lynches" can lead to you being able to pick any optimal target you want as mafia. That said its I don't think you're mafia and it's great that you have found so many different things to be suspicious of. But yeah, moving forward its best to narrow that list down by a lot.

Boxerfred is never mafia in this game. I am extremely critical of anyone that thinks they can scumread him for any reason. That said, boxerfred should lay off the role speculation. It's too early to speculate about that stuff.

Breshke's pressure is good, the stuff he said about bunnies is the strongest case I've read.

I was leaning scum on bunnies and she made some decent responses. I am critical of her scumread or whatever it is on boxerfred I don't understand how anyone can scum read that guy. If I were near a computer or had more time for anything but a brief update I would probably be filtering bunnies.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 22 2015 17:04 GMT

#381

I'm adding that mafia doesn't have a reason to commit to anything right now. The people making big leaps, regardless of how good/logical, are probably town.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 22 2015 17:09 GMT

#382

Oh and I don't remember any posts from Scott or sulfur.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 22 2015 17:16 GMT

#385

@disinfo No. I don't do the quote/comment on quote thing. What I said about boxerrfred is going to be a take it, leave it, or tell me why it's wrong sort of things.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 22 2015 17:27 GMT

#387

@baraka Tiktok and the other guy that responded get half a town point each for cooperating with my weird Chinese moon lake nonsense. BM gets half a town point too because "moon lake" sounds funny.

Nothing huge.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 22 2015 17:37 GMT

#390

On May 23 2015 02:30 Tictock wrote:
Actually batsnacks I wouldn't mind knowing why you used such strong language regarding BF in that post. I agree with your overall statement, but "never mafia this game" raises flags. I think Dis asking for why you are saying this is totally fair.

To ask it another way. What has you so sure BF is town?

All of his posts. As is he could never post again and I'd still probably lynch most of the game over him. I haven't read anything compelling about why he could be mafia so my read on him can't be a problem.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

May 22 2015 17:42 GMT

#391

Weird that out of everything I said in the last half hour a town read gets the most attention. This makes me even more confident I'm right.