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your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
February 27 2015 22:57 GMT
#156
/in
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 02 2015 23:07 GMT
#192
On March 03 2015 08:06 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 08:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
CAN I ROLL SOMETHING ELSE FOR ONCE?


This is quite interesting. We either have a scum player not happy at his alignment or a townie that is just bored of being town...


And the point of posting this is?
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 02 2015 23:19 GMT
#229
On March 03 2015 08:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 08:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well, are you going to make a conclusion on that or just ping me for no reason?


That was the first impression I got just reading that. Impulse. Thinking through it harder I'm inclined to say you're town, because if I recall right, you don't seem to be someone who is too enthusiastic or posts a whole lot when he's town.


This looks like you're just making a read up under pressure to deliver, expect me to be particularly suspicious of you cause of that inconclusive post.

Do you really think that post alone was enough to get a townread on FF? Smells like TMI.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 02 2015 23:27 GMT
#241
On March 03 2015 08:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 08:19 your mom wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:12 Half the Sky wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well, are you going to make a conclusion on that or just ping me for no reason?


That was the first impression I got just reading that. Impulse. Thinking through it harder I'm inclined to say you're town, because if I recall right, you don't seem to be someone who is too enthusiastic or posts a whole lot when he's town.


This looks like you're just making a read up under pressure to deliver, expect me to be particularly suspicious of you cause of that inconclusive post.

Do you really think that post alone was enough to get a townread on FF? Smells like TMI.


What exactly are you expecting ftr? A bunch of people pressured her to draw a conclusion so would you just expect her to say nothing?

Scum points for you. This is how I would write a post as scum.


when I have something inconclusive and get asked for a conclusion I wont try to force a conclusion upon something inconclusive, cause im not afraid of leaving it at that.
hts was afraid, crumbled under pressure and tried to appease the inquiring people by posting a conclusion that is way too early to make and off a single post, so hts is probably mafia
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 02 2015 23:28 GMT
#242
On March 03 2015 08:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do we know if your mom is a smurf or just an off-site non-newb?


smurf
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 02 2015 23:40 GMT
#265
On March 03 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote:
YM, it's called a tone read. And I've played with Fecalfeast before. I also find it amusing you say my posting was forced considering I posted on impulse, and it was the first thing that came to my mind.



We either have a scum player not happy at his alignment or a townie that is just bored of being town...


you jumped to the conclusion that he's town with bad logic and only after getting pressured, if you were town that conclusion would have been there from the start, but you can hardly scumread him after getting three people on your tail, so you created a townread manufacturing a conclusive post instead of pressing the point that it was just you impulsively thinking.

who doesnt like getting townread
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 09:18 GMT
#649
On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:
##Shoot: Half the Sky

agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well.

All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts.

That being said, can we please change it to just
##vote: XYZ

I don't want someone to shoot someone because our "vote" and the official shooting phrase are the same thing except for a ':' ...


im quite jealous that you attribute hts being called out to rayn, cause he was the fourth in a series of three in which i think i was the first to point out the scummy posting. rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 09:30 GMT
#653
On March 03 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well that's what i have been telling since i called Koshi mafia.
sandroba
your mom
maybe mocsta
maybe slam, maybe..
someone who has not posted


all i remember is you calling hts mafia after me and after FF and OWS called her inconclusive post out, then you called me mafia after OWS called me out, at that point you weren't giving reasons, just quoting and calling people mafia based on what looked like thread sentiment, or the sentiment of the people posting at the time.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 09:32 GMT
#655
if you want me to get rid of that impression you will have to explain what made you call people mafia at a given point, cause it's not visible to the rest of the thread.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 09:35 GMT
#657
On March 03 2015 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 18:30 your mom wrote:
On March 03 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well that's what i have been telling since i called Koshi mafia.
sandroba
your mom
maybe mocsta
maybe slam, maybe..
someone who has not posted


all i remember is you calling hts mafia after me and after FF and OWS called her inconclusive post out, then you called me mafia after OWS called me out, at that point you weren't giving reasons, just quoting and calling people mafia based on what looked like thread sentiment, or the sentiment of the people posting at the time.

and i asked you how ,my play mirrors this:
Show nested quote +
...giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular.

because that's what you literally said.

Please do not dodge the question.


cause you called people mafia consecutively without giving reasons, and then dont seem eager to focus on one in specific to get people to agree with you. that should answer the question. its more like you're shooting into all directions with a toy gun rather than securing one reliable lynch.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 09:50 GMT
#660
what i wrote about hts still stands and i dont see any reason to switch target. the post about ff looks like it was made to fake contribute, and the answer to the pressure looks like it was made to get rid of pressure. the reasoning for the town tone read on ff is hasty and takes the significance out of her previous post.

On March 03 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is mafia because he is uninterested in the game and definitely not even trying to scumhunt.
sandroba is mafia because he is actually really good at this game as town and really bad as mafia and he is bad here. I have in fact explained this read already, if you just happened to be town you would know this because you would actually read your scumreads (my) posts.

Which of those two reads you disagree with?


i dont have to disagree with your reads in order to scumread you. hts is my scumread of choice and you are still a secondary matter, but i cant leave the things unsaid that dont add up in your play. i know you well rayn and i know that if you call somebody scum and people dont agree with you it fuels your ambition to the point that you might just leave the game (for a while at least) when they dont listen.

that being said, i dont see why i have to discuss your scumreads with you when you called hts mafia and ignored my reasoning for her being it and called me scum for it, and refuse to answer a cordial question right now.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 10:06 GMT
#665
On March 03 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
your mom can you just tell me if you agree/disagree with my reads on koshi and sandroba?
Then i'll answer anything you want me to.


in my own time i will post a read on them, i have work to do now and have to go in one hour
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 10:25 GMT
#668
On March 03 2015 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 19:06 your mom wrote:
On March 03 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
your mom can you just tell me if you agree/disagree with my reads on koshi and sandroba?
Then i'll answer anything you want me to.


in my own time i will post a read on them, i have work to do now and have to go in one hour

so you couldn't even post "agree" or "disagree" (which would actually make me contribute towards what YOU want) and you call me out for not answering your questions?

i call bs


im just f5ing the front page occasionally at the moment. not gonna give out forced reads cause you want me to.

difference between you and me is i call people mafia and post reasoning. you call people mafia post no reasoning and when asked for reasoning want me to post reasoning about people i didnt call mafia.

so of the two of us you're the one with the weaker standing trust me.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 10:31 GMT
#670
On March 03 2015 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 19:25 your mom wrote:
im just f5ing the front page occasionally at the moment. not gonna give out forced reads cause you want me to.
.

but you just gave out a forced read on me.
Because obviously you haven't even read the thread. Yet you call me mafia for not explaining my reads (which i have in fact done), and for keeping my options open (which is definitely not correct).


did you explain the read on me and hts? and how do you define my read on you as forced, it would be forced if i didnt give it out on my own, but i did.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 10:55 GMT
#674
those aren't reasons for my read being forced, it's just your defense. i stand by the point that HTS post on FF looks like an act, and i dont have to read a whole filter if my reasoning is based on posts i already read. anyway, going to be back around 8-9 pm, if im lucky earlier.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 18:37 GMT
#892
Still catching up, but lol @ the people who want to shoot me. i have more filter in one day of this game than in the whole game of the other one where i was scum, and i got lynched d3 or 4 there, taking advantage of my anonymity.

i might reveal my identity to push my agenda further, which is to lynch hts in particular cause i dont care about her later posts if a few were enough to convince me. i also might not reveal myself and just get shot, rayn definitely has the balls to do that as either alignment, but he will just hurt town and himself, and i definitely have enough schadenfreude to let that happen.

the latter is much more likely as i cba to make multiple smurf accounts.

talking reads:

moving rayn to the townpile cause of his later posts, some lengthy ones in particular i dont think he would have made as scum. but its not a read i will apply to the entire game without looking back. thats just me being me.

koshi martyring didnt look good, then again i can see it coming easily from town perspective, first cause it isnt made to look good, second cause ive been in his shoes already, which is why im smurfing. people will always try look at your highest standard of town play to try to prove youre scum in some other game, a mistake i was guilty of way too many times.
im willing to let him play out d1 the way he wants to and then see if the motivation to solve the game comes up, cause that would be a strong reliable town tell after the ongoing self-imposed hiatus.

skimmed over mocstas case on breshke and breshkes posts but was focused mainly on koshi rayn and hts.

speaking of hts, my read is likely to not change as i dont see why i should forgive a mistake a likely scum has made. if you catch mafia off a few posts, you caught mafia. if they manage to adapt their play and you reevaluate based on posts where they dont make mistakes, you make the mistake and mafia slips away. been there, seen that from both perspectives.

there was nothing interesting about FFs post, but she tries to say it is in a post that concludes with null. i dont need more. later she townreads him cause she feels she has to cause of that post that put her into the spotlight. thats just another cherry on top.

reading on after reemphasizing this.

your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 18:39 GMT
#896
On March 04 2015 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There are now two people, Koshi and Half the Sky who should say something smart about your mom and Toadesstern.
Now is your time to shine if you are town.


just noticed this.

why half the sky if you dont think shes scummy anyway. this is only something you would say to somebody thinking he has to step it up. you make an appeal to a town- and a scumread.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 18:47 GMT
#907
On March 04 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote:
Seriously, epiphany just said:

I don't want to shoot koshi for...no reason
YM works cause sheeping rayn
long useless rant on why whoever is shooting should have good reasons for shooting who they are going to shoot
then peaces out

meeeeeeh post and if koshi is town lynch this guy


epiphany is my likely top town pick for the moment, just looks extremely committed to what he says, and what he says is committing (unlike hts post on FF). im just sad he agrees on shooting me.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 18:51 GMT
#916
On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Tube, I'd rather hear your reads. Your idea wasn't terrible, but the longer you hide behind that list, the more townie points you're losing.


Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit.

Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan).

Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him.

Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him.


rayns arguments are that i scumread people off a few posts before looking at the entire game, and keep scumreading them for those posts (which is supposed to make the whole "fabricated")

now point me to the part you find convincing please. rayn called me mafia on the get go so he couldnt have thought that i was mafia cause stubborn, since it was shortly after game start and before i went to bed. he called me mafia after i woke up today for reasons. but the first time he calls me mafia, do you see a reason for it?
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 03 2015 18:53 GMT
#918
On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Tube, I'd rather hear your reads. Your idea wasn't terrible, but the longer you hide behind that list, the more townie points you're losing.


Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit.

Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan).

Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him.

Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him.


inclined to agree on toad, too early for rayn to be obvious, didnt really see geript shining town, in fact i should take a look at him, why is geript obvious town?
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