[T] Jack of All Trades Mafia

On February 27 2015 08:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Why aren't you signing up for this game in the meantime robik?

On February 27 2015 08:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Why aren't you signing up for this game in the meantime robik?

On February 28 2015 07:57 your mom wrote:
/in

On February 27 2015 08:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Why aren't you signing up for this game in the meantime robik?

On February 27 2015 19:45 Mocsta wrote:

Cos he knows I read him like an open book.

On March 03 2015 09:36 sandroba wrote:
well if somehow everyone gets behind it I see no problem turning this into a normal lynch. This will require extreme self-control by a town player who is about to get shot, however, because if you manage to shoot before someone shoots you, you will waste 2 of town lynches instead of one.

On March 03 2015 10:28 geript wrote:

The last game I saw this was with VE and BH I think. Where VE got lynched after a missed shot I think. Like them potentially soaking up KP is possible but unlikely until D3-4 unless one of a handful of people get it. There's also the aspect that if they're a good/decent player, they can suck up roles/powers given by the spirits. Like if they get medic or vet it's pretty useless. Tracker would be useless too. Louie them remaining in the game leaves more room for mafia to hide in and has far more potential to fuck up town than help town. Assuming all 4 shots go off, odds are they only hit 1 mafia. Maybe 2 if we're really lucky. Imagine if like batsnacks, Slam, Mocsta or LS got the role though. Like shit would hit the fan real fast. Like that's the really important thing. Is it they're ever about to be lynched then they 100% will fire indescriminantly and likely hit town. This isn't even considering them presumptively killing people to get them off their back. The roles are super wifomy. Like I remember Kita shooting someone as 3P 10 minutes before a lynch to try and get multiple people killed and they could manipulate things that way too. Like they're really really bad for us unless they never shoot or only shoot perfectly. two things we can't count on.

On March 03 2015 16:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Except that the post is really bad because that is something that is never gonna happen and everyone knows it.
Hopefully someone shoots koshi before sandroba shoots a townie.

On March 03 2015 13:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Hi guys,

I am sorry I'm late, but the game starts at 4:30 am in my time-zone. I'm not inclined to be an early riser and in any case for professional reasons that isn't an option. My work requires me to be rested during the day.

So first off, before I post anything more substantive, I have a comment about the device.

I see a very rapid bandwagon towards pressing it, which I don't really understand very well. The device is unknown and we have no idea what it's impact on the game will be, or whom it will favour. Most of the 'reasoning' I've seen for pressing it can be summarized as 'YOLO' or 'don't be pansy' and similar emotive appeals rather than any concrete reason. One sensible voice pointed out we should guard it until we are behind or doing badly and then press, but he didn't seem to be too invested in the whole issue and didn't pursue it much. He's dead right though; the device randomizes the game, and because town is majority, that itself makes it town favoured. The way we extract an advantage from the device is to gain the ability to randomize the game when it's going badly, not by just saying 'YOLO' and pressing a button, and I'm mildly suspicious of those who started this "PRESS" bandwagon. I really can't overstate the importance of this, and I really want a discussion of this issue and/or responses to it. I'm not attempting to deflect discussion away from the shot, and I'll comment on that in a bit, but this is an important issue and that's why I've dedicated a separate post to it. There is literally no reason not to vote GUARD on the device and I want those who are currently voting PRESS to explain their logic if any.

innocent scum (AT.Epiphany): Hey guys, i dunno what to post

scum leader (XXXX): just bullshit man. start of the game people just looking for good vibes and confidence.

innocent scum (AT.Epiphany): OK "XXXX" let me post about this useless button pressing that has zero relevance this early.

innocent scum (xxxx): and MAKE sure you don't call out anyone sepcific for pressing dat button. Blending in is the key to winning.

On March 03 2015 13:26 AT.Epiphany wrote:


So your reasoning is that he sounds coherent and therefore he is scum because someone else said he's incoherent when he's town? If he's capable of being coherent, I can't see why he wouldn't be coherent when he's town. I'm also unsure why you aren't venturing any opinion or read of your own, but relying on some comment someone made on some other occasion?

innocent scum (AT.Epiphany): OK guys. I did it!!! I finally did it. My first mafia post

scum leader (XXXX): well done. keep it up and you will have blended in no time.

innocent scum (AT.Epiphany): OK "XXXX" ohohohoh i found a sucker picking on easy biat like Slam !!!!.

innocent scum (xxxx): go for it son.

innocent scum (AT.Epiphany): I'm so clever. I made a useless post with no intent to help the thread. I'm so clever!!

On March 03 2015 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta in fact yes, i liked her post on Slam.

On March 03 2015 17:20 AT.Epiphany wrote:


First off, I'm not throwing the newbie card, literally Mocsta's entire post is about making fun of me being a newbie in his faux 'translation', so stop faking that accusation.

Secondly, I'm not sure if he's scum or not, (which is why I didn't accuse him) but it does seem strange to me argue that Slam is scum because he is coherent. If he's capable of being coherent, there's no reason why he wouldn't be so as town and moreover what I objected to was that the only reasoning tubesock provided was "kochi said so this some other game" which is a very strange reason.

On March 03 2015 17:31 AT.Epiphany wrote:



Ok the read on Slam is easier, and my read on him is that he's Town. His post on the lynching method is accurate and correctly outlines what town ought to be doing. He's working towards a plan that has been entirely derailed by this shitstorm.

The read on Koshi's much tougher because he's said/done very little and I don't know him well enough to be able to interpret that very well. I'm leaning towards Townie, partly because he strongly wants to lynch vigilante shooters who get it wrong and partly because I don't think he'd be that open about non-participating if he was Mafia. I know WIFOM, but no one really buys WIFOM defenses and he's put himself right in front of the spotlight.

On March 03 2015 08:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


What exactly are you expecting ftr? A bunch of people pressured her to draw a conclusion so would you just expect her to say nothing?

Scum points for you. This is how I would write a post as scum.

On March 03 2015 17:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I heavily disagree geript.
Mocsta could also be scum. There is one really bad comment he should never make as town.

On March 03 2015 18:07 roundabound wrote:

Lol
Not everyone is capable of perfect play

Everyone can be fallacious
We have to judge if malicious

I deem it not. If you disagree. Expound

On March 03 2015 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am not sure i buy this explanation.
So your conclusion (yes, in the post where you originally posted your comment i talked about it WAS a conclusion of yours) is that he, as town, for some reason should scumread people who scumread his town reads. I have absolutely no idea how you end up on this conclusion because it is a narrative YOU invented for him and nothing in his play implicates he should think this way.

On March 03 2015 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

The problem here for me is that apparently Mocsta sees you as some kind of a dumbass who has no clue in how to play mafia. I heavily disagree with that because of your post on geript. While i think you are wrong on geript's alignment and at the start of the game focused on things i find to be irrelevant your post on geript was really thought out and it fits with how you think the D1 here should be played in your opinion. I find those cases on geript a massive towntell for you, and i also find them to show that you are actually well capable of thinking which makes you NOT a bad player.

However Mocsta seems to be thinking the opposite and i can't understand why. Like i don't even know what he got out of calling you mafia??? Many big wasted posts to end up in a conclusion "this guy is dumb"?? I don't buy it.

On March 03 2015 20:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record i wanna press the device to see what happens, now when if it's a bad thing it doesn't fucking kill us outright.
sandroba suggesting this:

is scummyscummyscum.....

The only correct way to do this is either figure out what pressing the device does NOW, or destroy it immediately.

On March 03 2015 16:18 Mocsta wrote:
Hi guys.

##Vote: Destroy

Bye guys.