EPT[T] Jack of All Trades Mafia
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I have been thinking about this for over 10 minutes but nope. I have no clue. | ||
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On January 30 2015 04:42 Alakaslam wrote: True But 4srs You can only try to balance them, the reason normals exist is to be able to rely on a balanced, expected outcome. Themed games you still try to balance, but frankly I think watchdoging a themed setup for balance is like misunderstanding the whole reason the designators [t] [m] [n] [w] etc. exist. It isn't that, it is just similar. And yeah, I have submitted some gross setups to balance considerations, but that's the thing- they didn't get made. This one appears to have passed muster, and if DP is involved I trust it frankly. Even a perfect balanced roulette can roll red 15 times in a row. I don't judge the balance of a game on it's outcome, nobody should. But if a normal mini require 3 ml for scum to win if they hit perfectly (no saves) or simple 4 ml for scum to win, and then you join a normal big game and scum wins 100% of the times after 3 misslynches whetever the fuck happens. I don't call that balanced. The main issue some people have with assassins/Serial Poisoners/Serial Killers/Crabs and themed games is that some of the hosts forget that we play this game to use some deduction skills to find mafia and then win the game due to this skill. . With and SK for example town can play pretty perfect and still get fucked by the SK and mafia night power. Or mafia gets fucked because the SK can win with town and just kill mafia or lynchbait.......... And you get themed games in which there are 4 recruiting scumteams, nullifying the lynches and the skill part of the game basically. (DISCLAIMED: the game ended after n2 so I don't really know the full set-up, because there was a 5th faction that had more information about the recruiting scumteams). Not for Artanis, in case I want to play this game and not roll scum coincidentally:+ Show Spoiler + Or the host uses dumb and completely one sided balance set-ups like in Cell mafia in which there are no flips, 33% of the game is mafia, and no blue roles. And in the latest addition there also would have been a NK. | ||
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 Or was it Ver? Or who was it? | ||
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On January 30 2015 06:35 marvellosity wrote: i think cell is really balanced, i think town just got outplayed in the games. mafia had zero right to win the game i was in for instance. you can't legislate for town shitting the bed and/or getting outplayed hahahahahahaha. Good one marv. Balanced Cell Pick 1 | ||
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On January 30 2015 06:47 marvellosity wrote: but you're clueless mocking baselessly changes nothing marv. you've become a sour puss. | ||
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The first goddamn day you have 5 mafias finding reasons to why 1 town is scummy. Then 8 out of the 10 townies need to see through these 5 mafias lies. And then maybe you can have 8/7 votes and vote mafia away. There is actually no good reason why mafia wouldn't just sit with 5 people on 1 townie. And guess what? In every game there is a townie that finds another townie scum, genuinely and often with good reasoning. Do you know how unlikely it is to lynch scum D1? Now do it with 10 vs 5. And remember that once you lynch town D1, you cannot see who was actually pushing mafia. If you then add some people with 1 page filters, the mafia is only forced to make some sense in a 2 page filter to win his cell. While discussion is somewhat limited in this format. Mafia gains more % players, lose nk. Town loses % players, loses flips, loses blue roles, loses the advantage to lynch freely, gain a mafia wagon. PS: if mafia busses they don't lose that advantage later on due to the fact they didn't get NK because they can't get nk. | ||
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I love themed games secretively. | ||
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Anyway, I might do stuff. I might not do stuff. I don't like getting misslynched but getting shot by a dumbass does not count. It would be very very sad though. Very very sad. Getting shot today as town is terrible play by you and the shooter. So I will answer Questions asked to me. I would ask you to type KOSHIxxx somewhere in your post so I can find it easily. Depends on how huge this thread gets. | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi is mafia. Wrong. | ||
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For some reason town loses after 4th ml again. And there is no reason for the scum spirit to give scum vigis and town can't do shit against that. Oh well. Maybe some other force of balancing is going to happen. | ||
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I am out till forever now. | ||
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On March 03 2015 21:23 AT.Epiphany wrote: Okay, I'll bite? Why such low participation/unavailability? Koshixxx Game started on 0000 and didn't feel like playing. I played doto and watched House of Cards. I slept till 1200. I am now at work till 1800, I got a lot to do so I don't think I will do to much. Depends a bit. I will then be home but doto will call again and I have 0 urge to play this game as long as I didn't read anything yet. So Wednesday sounds like a fun day to start. | ||
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