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jarjarbinks
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jarjarbinks
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On January 28 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote: i'd like to /obs since I think I've finally "graduated" from newbie @.@ want to see if my toneread on my bro holds even when he rolls scum let's see your scumgame bro xP WOAH WOAH WOAH. U can't STUDY my scumgame! I'm full of mystery and....things and stuff.... lol | ||
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jarjarbinks
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That learning curve tho | ||
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so if I don't do that....I'm scum? dang it lolz | ||
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On January 30 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote: I know, right? xP That's okay. You scum me in every game when you have no decent reads, just cause I could possibly (but have never in the past) fool you xP -beats with a wet noodle- lol waaaaaaaaaat no I totally have decent reads like all the time xD u obviously were super suspicious! All like 20 billion pages of filter was suspicious! | ||
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Trf: Low content game because of it being a newbie game? Or because of valentines day? | ||
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On February 15 2015 15:09 rsoultin wrote: Lol, we've at least given people something to read when they return? I'm also looking forward to JJB playing ^^ I really want to see him play scum to see if my toneread on him holds water as both alignments. Psh. You don't know me! lol I'm like super secretive and stuff lol | ||
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On February 15 2015 15:12 Trfel wrote: I'm mostly worried about this game because it is a newbie game. Historically, newbie games tend to be significantly more mafia favored than normal games, and the newbie game Day 1 mafia lynch percentage is lower than random guessing (oh the irony...). I think that this is primarily due to inactivity. I could see that, I think my first game (the newbie one) was only like 50 ish pages while the student one (my second) was like 100. Guessing its due to a lack of confidence? | ||
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On February 15 2015 15:14 rsoultin wrote: Speak of the devil ^^ Did you have a hot date tonight I don't know about, bro? Probably not -amused- I'm sure there's a how-to online somewhere, though >> I could just google it xP Nope, totally 5th wheeled a weird after church double date thing tho. I should prob get one of those date things. LOL just make sure you don't actually read all of the rules first | ||
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On February 15 2015 15:20 rsoultin wrote: Or my role PM? xP Dude, if only you'd posted that in-thread; it could totally make the wtf awards ^^ So, opinions on any of the players/goings-on thus far? Trf's opening: slightly less crazy than last game I played with him in. No random vote the guy who might be inactive play. Wants to promote discussion. I could go either way cuz he "tried" to do that as scum. Shining- not much reaction there. What i'd typically expect I guess? You- I expect you to do what you do every game. You did it...lol Everyone else: I'm guessing they are gone for valentine's. I'd get worried if people aren't chiming in when I wake up tomorrow. | ||
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jarjarbinks
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On February 15 2015 15:31 rsoultin wrote: That's probably fair given the state of the game at the moment. No amazing insights from the numbers man :/ Yep. My insights=pile of crap lol 4 new people right? | ||
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jarjarbinks
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I guess I could see either mafia or strong town reads be more willing to break the cycle over more quiet town. They are probably going to lead the vote wagons and the discussions anyways? | ||
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On February 15 2015 22:58 zlefin wrote: I can't explain my reads well, they're only quite mild reads at this point. For Trfel, it's partly a tonal read, and partly that he's encouraging discussion and trying to get things going. So he's either town, or a well-played (and hence dangerous) scum. For jarjar, it's just an impression, I can't really explain why. Could you use a quote or something to explain Trf's? | ||
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On February 16 2015 01:07 Hier wrote: Please be careful of what you say, typically only a mafia player would include themselves in a set of people that require "strong reads"; it's done for inclusion's sake because the mafia don't have "reads" - they can see everything as is. Your rationale is flawed. People with strong reads are more willing to break the links, not less. Further, the number of switches you have has nothing to do with how susceptible you are to be pressured to a vote. With 2 people, out of only 9, dying every vote cycle having more than 1 switch trivializes the tool, which is what The Bridges is, and deprives each switch of its subtle meaning. Don't assume everyone here can't comprehend a simple set of rules. In a vacuum nothing can force a superior outcome, however passivity favours mafia. Hit me, what "better ways" are you thinking of right now? In your experience, is the use of a smiley face signal scum for you? What about people analysing your analysis of that suspiciously sarcastic undertone some guy is utilizing? Can you analyse that analysis of your analysis and get a good read on the person? We can go around in circles aimlessly. An engraved method forces people with a little too much knowledge to act the way people without said knowledge wouldn't. He made a mistake and meant the opposite of what he said in the quote you posted. Still I really liked your post here. Have you used this idea in a past game? Has it seen success? Did you just come up with it? | ||
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On February 16 2015 01:21 rsoultin wrote: You don't see a problem with the simple fact that town is in the dark and mafia isn't? Most games I've played I have so many nullish or slight leans, especially early game, but using a one-time-ability on someone I'm far from certain of? That's lolworthy when it might better be preserved for later xP Also, town not knowing each other for sure, what's to encourage making reads if the lynch is already set at start of day? How will you make your vote analysis? Not a fan of this style of play at all. If it was so effective, it would already be in use. Good point. Only if everyone is actively discussed how inclined they are to save the person would there be any real discussion. If the person being "autolynched" is someone you aren't sure of or isn't you, then there isn't much incentive to use your one-time only switch. So if no one uses their switch then there probably won't be much of anything going on. I guess this strategy is banking on people using their switch? | ||
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My spreadsheet doesn't take into account people's reads though. Say rsoultin (almost always townread by everyone in the game every game) is on the chop block, I'm pretty sure someone would use their switch on her. If she's mafia, for obvious reasons. If she's town, then because everyone thinks she's town and knows that it is a mistake. That goes right back to mafia have perfect information over town not having it. If we used the bridge strategy, our only real hope would be to: 1. figure out how mafia would NK based on that strategy, which looks very similar to WIFOM. 2. Heavily analyze ANY switch that is made. It should mean a lot for someone to use their 1 free pass to make the switch. Which also might seem a little WIFOMy. I'm not sure how to judge people based on their reactions to the system. I was the only one that liked it and backtracked later through rsoultin and excel. I tried to think of something similar to this for my last game for similar reasons to what Hier pointed out. Everyone else didn't like it. | ||
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