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Lazermonkey
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Lazermonkey
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Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment. On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality. ##Vote: TheChyz | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On December 31 2014 15:17 geript wrote: So you don't find Robik who is normally an exceptionally prolific poster as town posting "Hello?" twice and then fucking off when he got ignored interesting in the slightest? I think Robik is scummy for this. Obviously, it was at the very start of the game so its not the strongest of reads BUT I know I did a very similar thing in another game, i.e. saying something of absolutely no substance early on in the game to indicative that I was in fact active, and then just afk. I was scum that game. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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Granted, he did put up some reads later but only after he was called out. Don't you think there is a scum motive in trying to look active while not really pushing the thread forward? Because I would argue that is what Chyz did. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 01 2015 00:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: ??? Is Marv 100% mafia or not? Also the fact that you don't want to be friends with me makes me very sad and very angry. The pitchfork and noose kind of angry. That's pretty much the exact reason I gave though; not following through with new discussion after saying the current one was pointless, so why do you say "people" are attacking him for the wrong reasons? Yhea, I know. Though you were (I think) the first person to say that. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 01 2015 00:53 Koshi wrote: Show me a game in which Chyz is a townleader. My read on Chyz is not based on meta. I have never played nor read one of his games. Is this how he normaly plays as town you think? | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 01 2015 01:07 Koshi wrote: 2 people were doing something that nobody so far found useful for 20 posts in a row. 1 guy said to those 2 people to stop their shitposting and asks on of them to do something useful in 1 post. The 1 guy gets crap for doing not more pro-towns things in his 1 post and the 2 people who made 20 shitpost together are not discussed. --- I don't get it. Is it meta? Scum generally do exactly 1 protown thing in their post? I get that TheChyz could have also done more digging himself, create more content, actively question people and look for scum. But unless he has a meta for doing those things, I am already content with him doing the 1 thing. It's more than others. And like you said, he did scumhunting after that. It doesn't matter that people had to ask him for it. It is important that he did it, and I don't see you commenting on the value of those posts. You just say: "He did scumhunting because he was asked for it, so it doesn't count". The reason I asked if you knew his meta was because you dismissed my by implying that unless you generally act as a townleader, stuff like this isn't scummy. I disagree. Saying to two people that they should stop arguing over stupid shit is protown. But it is very non-commital. Its okay to do stuff like that as long as you are pushing scum as well. But Chyz wasn't hunting scum, not untill people called him out for not hunting scum. It does not matter if he scumhunted after he was called out. If you are town and get called out for that, you scum hunt because it helps town. If you are scum, you scum hunt to avoid suspicion. The fact that he started scum hunt after he got called out for it IS not alignment indicative. I feel what is relevant here is what his motive was. Its clear that he was reading the thread, its clear that he wrote a post, its clear that he didn't care to post any reads untill he got called out for it. What alignment does these action make sense from? | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 01 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote: Laazermonkey I have "your" chyz read , can you give some thoughts about other players in the game? Outside of Robik and Chyz, not too much. geript I'm a bit torn on. Initially, I thought he was a bit scummy (waiting for Palmar, Marv etc) but he has been active and was one of the players that really got the discussion going. This is making me like him somewhat, as scum there is no reason to be that active in the start of the game really. Slight town read on him. I think sicklurker posted some relevant things at the start of the game. Not much though, but a slight town read this far. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 01 2015 01:49 KelsierSC wrote: so Lazer monkey one of your main points about chyz is that he didn't have a town/scum read early on and didn't give it till someone pushed him, yet you are also unable to give a read on any of the 3 main protagonists in the early game. (eden, drh and rit) . So you are scum to? This doesn't make any sense what so ever. I'm sorry. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 01 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote: Hes asking you if you have thoughts on the three people who are getting a good bit of discussion going atm, if one person is scummy for not being able t do this are you scum. Yhea, but my suspcion against Chyz was not based on the fact that he didn't post about the main protagonists in the game (in fact, he did). But rather that he didn't give any read of his own. I have given my thoughts about a few people but not the three he mentioned I guess. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though. DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today. rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote: Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you? Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why? Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 01 2015 02:58 marvellosity wrote: like as it stands I'd lynch Lazer over Chyz any day of the week. And I might lynch any uber-lurker before either of them. why? | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote: I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read. However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum Well, if your argument is "you should be able to pick a more clear stance" I cannot argue against it. I don't feel like making up a read on any of them just to please you. Also, my read on Eden is not a scum read. He is null. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 01 2015 03:36 sicklucker wrote: Like this is so true and why I voted him. In carol he claimed a present just to claim one which was a huge reason as to how I figured out his alignment and his mafia team. It was stupid then and hes being pretty stupid now So was rikoty scum in that game? And does he not post that way in other games? Because in general, I'd say being super aggressive and tunneling the shit out of people without any reason is more likely to come from town than it is to come from scum. And even then, I feel meh about voting someone ONLY because of meta. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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I have to go now, will be able to post more tomorrow. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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I realize that I kinda sucked yesterday. Got way to tunnely on Chyz. I will try to reread some things and reevaluate my thoughts as best as I can. As for the "case" on me, I think its pretty weak + I will have some time to post today so I don't fear too much for my death. Won't really bother to defend myself right now but I'd rather focus on trying to get a hang on the game and figure out who I think is the best lynch! | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On January 02 2015 00:17 KelsierSC wrote: What do you think about Koshi this far?Shit man I'm all by myself with no one to talk to. Plus I cant quote or make a proper case on my phone. | ||
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