EPTEdit: Though new to TL, I've posted a bit on LD forums and saw the post for this game there, also played many versions of this game on other forums, looking forward to playing TL-style.
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Edit: Though new to TL, I've posted a bit on LD forums and saw the post for this game there, also played many versions of this game on other forums, looking forward to playing TL-style. | ||
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On November 19 2014 05:35 Blazinghand wrote: Out of thread communication: It is common for mafia to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Players who have not explicitly been given permission to communicate outside the thread are not allowed to attempt to infiltrate such communication channels. Players who are not mafia are not allowed to communicate about this game outside of the thread. PMs PMs and out of thread communication are not allowed in this game, unless your role explicitly allows them. I hope I don't get e-strangled for asking this but after reading the rules 2-3 times, I have two questions for clarity: 1 Regarding out of thread comms for the good guys, particularly the cop and the tracker, if especially the cop confirms one of the other key roles (or even if he confirms a vanilla), this means he basically is stuck trying to align with them in the open without giving him/herself away and cannot communicate with them privately any sort of strategy? 2 The town doctor. Is there any penalty for the doctor if he visits a bad guy at night (assuming the bad guys elect to kill someone else)? It does not say either way but just to confirm... Thanks. | ||
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 Three baddies out of 13...should be a fun ride. | ||
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On November 25 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote: Looks like we found our d1 lynch already ##Vote: Sicklucker Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy? Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way. | ||
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On November 25 2014 07:33 Breshke wrote: [...] why did he feel the need to say that he was town and then why if he is town is he afking? As town you need to try find out peoples alignments so you want to post more ask questions w/e as scum you have no need for that. I am also seeing if he actually went afk or not. Alright, fair play. I had thought for some reason he was a vet who was just bored, and then seeing your last post, checked the list and no he's not a vet, so I stand corrected. I guess I'll be keeping a similar eye on him, and based on his reaction will vote accordingly. Although if he actually is town and trolling, he's not really helping his/our case. I agree, it is an eager time to vote him down now, but if he is town, that's exactly what the baddies want. Easy targets... So sicklucker, what's the deal? | ||
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Regarding my post, I wasn't siding with anybody. Day 1, I feel it is too quick to accuse someone, so I was calling into question Breshke's vote approx 30 mins into Day 1, as it was pretty quick and I had made an incorrect assumption on sicklucker's experience with TLM, to which I thought Breshke's rationale (in his second post) made sense. | ||
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In response to Breshke's vote - I actually did take that seriously, which is why I posted the way I did. I have no idea how anyone plays here, SL included. That said, most of my posts were in the first (approx) 2h, with not a lot to go off of. That's why I phrased things the way I did. Yes, I found both SL's and Breshke's posts odd, which is why I reacted the way I did. Since Breshke actually voted, I called it into question....okay, so I need to fix my sense of sarcasm. From other mafia games I've played when someone votes so quickly like, the first thing that I think of is that someone is trying to start a lynch mob. The best I could do when the game started was try and reason as best as I could through what everyone was posting. I am not scum, and nor is my intention to confuse anyone. I was just trying to think things through. | ||
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Breshke - Leaning town, now that I understand his vote to be a joke vote. sicklucker - Not sure. His subsequent posts were okay, but I still don't understand what he was trying to do with the whole afk thing. LS, alaka and DSMI - Nulls, couldn't tell either way. Bats - I don't like the timing of the policy vote, I could understand if it were closer to the deadline but not now. Both him and kush are veterans, and enough veterans in the game to take note if kush had afked more. Vote on Oats looks like retaliation. Grasping for straws? Oats - Town lean so far. TLDR: Nothing strong on anyone. The SL AFK and the policy vote timing/explanation are what aren't sitting right with me at the moment. | ||
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On November 26 2014 02:23 sicklucker wrote: His vote was not a joke. He just played the I want to get him talking card after I started talking and he looked bad I got the impression it was from: On November 25 2014 14:07 Trfel wrote: I was thinking that sicklucker seemed suspicious due to the "trap" at the start of the game, as well as the way he turned on Breshke for the early vote. Clearly the vote wasn't a serious vote, therefore it isn't rushed or hasty. On November 25 2014 14:07 Trfel wrote: Obviously Breshke's vote was to force sicklucker back into the game, and was never a truly serious lynch vote (except a potential policy lynch). Maybe "joke" wasn't the right word here (especially in comparison to Alakaslam), but the point still stands. I know Breshke rescinded his vote but it didn't appear to be scum like. | ||
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On November 26 2014 02:39 sicklucker wrote: Him rescinding doesint mean much to me. I defended myself very well and even had a pregame set plan that I pulled. Its more mafia if anything. Well I look at his posts again and I have to think "would a reasonable person call into question someone who's just going to afk" like that? I saw your pre-game post, fine. But my thinking was that you still could not have chosen to do that once the day began and that's how I was seeing him coming from. I had zero knowledge of how either of you play the game. The manner in which he did was reasonable. On November 25 2014 08:58 Breshke wrote: You said you were going afk, as either allighnment this isnt good because it means i couldn't get a read off you. Im not sure who the question about me making quick reads is directed at but tell me, if i normally dont make quick reads what do you think of my allighnment? Same as if i do. I don't see where your questions are leading to. ##Unvote And you have all of one game experience with him. I just don't think there's a red flag here. I also don't see evidence of him holding a grudge from one game, not like Kush/Bats. | ||
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On November 26 2014 06:35 batsnacks wrote: How is meatpudding trolling though? I think he means this quote, nothing else in the filtered comments comes close. On November 25 2014 08:27 meatpudding wrote: Student mafia, eh.... Did you know? Sperm whales have the largest brain of any animal. | ||
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Alakaslam is still coming in null for me, there was a lot of fluff in his posts, though he did make some decent points. Batsnacks had been my most likely candidate for scum mainly because of the policy vote on kush without any hard justification under 24h of the game starting, that's just a huge cop-out IMO, not even considering the lack of reads, when you put that and Trfl's post together, it just looks really bad. Also coming in on the scum side is Damdred. Kush cited his tone, but it's not even his tone that bothers me, it's the sheer number of questions he throws at people to come up and/or press opinion. Meta or no meta, and regardless of who he's inquiring on, asking/pushing that many questions on anyone strikes me as grasping for straws. Other people here are questioning but he is just head and shoulders out there. A distraction? I used the filter to count the number of questions he's putting out to people and I counted 16 questions, 14 of which were to pull opinions on two individuals (SL and myself). Both sicklucker and DSMI (twice) call him on this behaviour, so I know I'm not the only one that found this method strange. On November 25 2014 09:28 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: Thats bullshit Everypost I made in this entire thread was about those two players. Its like your posting to make yourself look good while adding nothing. i kinda agree with this.[/QUOTE] On November 25 2014 09:34 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: and damdred dont you think you might just be finding reasons to find sick funny at this point? For comparison's sake Oats has also filtered that many questions, if not more, but the difference here is that his questioning is not focused entirely at/on/about 1-2 individuals, many of them he asks for explanations and just asks multiple people "who is scum" etc. Being new to this community, I waited to see if it was just him or if this type of questioning was the norm with all the veterans here, and clearly that's not the case. Also him suggesting to policy vote LS doesn't sit well with me either. On November 26 2014 05:35 Damdred wrote: LS I have no clue hes not doing much but he didn't do much in the last game he played either, he would be a plynch basically i'll have to reread him soon as i'm done with prep. LS has been contributing to the discussion, how he reads what is going on. Excluding LS's last post, since Damdred drew this thought before that, take LS's remaining posts; in comparison it's quite arguable that DSMI and Meatpudding would be more liable for policy at this point than LS. No, none of them had been posting often but the latter two have less substance/reads/analysis than LS and LS posted more recently than those two. My vote is a tossup at this point between Bats and Damdred with DSMI/Meat not far behind on the lack of substance altogether, the latter two would be a policy vote if nothing came out from them. Trfel if you've played with Damdred, can you shed more light on his meta? | ||
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On November 26 2014 09:18 meatpudding wrote: Ok, here's where I stand right now. If you're name's not on the list then consider it a null read for the time being. Marry Breshke Bang HTS Trfel Kill Damdred sicklucker I am not familiar with this terminology. I assume you mean kill is like a lynch/scum vote. but what is "marry" and "bang"? Also taking note of your inquiry, on kush, he did not strike me one way or another going through the thread, but let me filter and pull together his posts for a better read. | ||
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On November 26 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote: And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that? Actually I can think of one (a bit coincidental but still) but I'll leave it to him to defend himself. Meatpudding, I'm going to put the TLDR version regarding kush as it's late here, but I will add more in the morning. Most of kush's posts, when aggregated, are coming off as trolling, fluff, very terse statements. It could be his style or he could just try and create confusion. (Can another veteran please elaborate?) In his defence, he does explain on his phone his rationale for some of his reads, I don't agree with all of them, but they are otherwise reasonable arguments. I'm going to say null for now, but in need of more information to be conclusive. | ||
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On November 26 2014 09:52 Trfel wrote: Instead of nitpicking, you seem to be mostly doing nothing. I'm glad that you are finally making a defense, but this is (I believe) the third time you have been asked for one. And you still haven't provided any real scum reads. ##Vote: batsnacks I'd vote Bats at this point, but since I'm equally convinced on Damdred, I'm going to wait for the latter's defence before I vote in the morning one way or another. (It doesn't appear I can vote for both in one night.) | ||
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To sum it up, it's about quality IMO and not quantity. Going through the last five pages now that have mostly transpired in my sleep... | ||
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