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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 13:43:54
September 23 2014 13:43 GMT
#57
/in

I might be slightly unproductive through wednesday, if this starts tonight. I outed another game that was about to start because this week starting a bit rough. After that I should be fine.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 24 2014 23:11 GMT
#133
##VOTE Holyflare

Policy lynch for claiming. Never changing it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 24 2014 23:12 GMT
#137
On September 25 2014 08:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 08:11 Palmar wrote:
##VOTE Holyflare

Policy lynch for claiming. Never changing it.

OH MAN IT'S PALMAR I HEARD HE'S REALLY GOOD I'M SHEEPING HIM


##vote: Holyflare

seriously though are you gonna play this game? puppydog eyes*

I play every game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 24 2014 23:13 GMT
#139
On September 25 2014 08:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
Palmar you don't get to do that anyore, sorry.

Watch me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2014 15:03 GMT
#335
wow pls take vote away from me holyflare much aggressive my eyes hurt aaaaaaaaaa
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2014 15:08 GMT
#336
I'm like... 1/3 through the game. Observations:

Holyflare is sorta aggressive/emotional in his early stuff which I felt was weird (as if he was overplaying for effect). But he then later made enough non-shit posts for me to not want to lynch him.

Skydragon is town. Don't lynch.

Fecal might be town.

Superbia is a bit fishy

Glowingbear is a bit fishy because he posted that comment about there being a mafia between hopeless and holyflare. It's just such a bad way to think about things, and it's also a very cheap comment to make as mafia as it absolves you from actually having to threaten anyone by calling them scum. If he thinks his statement is true, why didn't he try to figure out which one it is immediately and then post his result?

Hopeless is meh

Storr.. idk. He wrote that case on... fecal? I kinda think the case is more likely to make storr town, but I don't think it's a correct case.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2014 15:09 GMT
#337
Oh now I remember why HF is townie, I actually liked the case on Haru. It's completely retarded but it makes HF more likely to be town, I guess.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2014 16:34 GMT
#347
On September 26 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 00:08 Palmar wrote:
I'm like... 1/3 through the game. Observations:

Holyflare is sorta aggressive/emotional in his early stuff which I felt was weird (as if he was overplaying for effect). But he then later made enough non-shit posts for me to not want to lynch him.

Skydragon is town. Don't lynch.

Fecal might be town.

Superbia is a bit fishy

Glowingbear is a bit fishy because he posted that comment about there being a mafia between hopeless and holyflare. It's just such a bad way to think about things, and it's also a very cheap comment to make as mafia as it absolves you from actually having to threaten anyone by calling them scum. If he thinks his statement is true, why didn't he try to figure out which one it is immediately and then post his result?

Hopeless is meh

Storr.. idk. He wrote that case on... fecal? I kinda think the case is more likely to make storr town, but I don't think it's a correct case.


Sorry, I'm guilty of getting people to talk to get my reads instead of immediately attacking both HF and hope.
I've posted who I think is the scum team at that moment. I think that is good to register and to get reads.


If you genuinely followed up you shouldn't be worried at all. When I catch up I'll see that and be 100% convinced you're town, right?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2014 16:35 GMT
#348
On September 26 2014 00:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 00:08 Palmar wrote:
I'm like... 1/3 through the game. Observations:

Holyflare is sorta aggressive/emotional in his early stuff which I felt was weird (as if he was overplaying for effect). But he then later made enough non-shit posts for me to not want to lynch him.

Skydragon is town. Don't lynch.

Fecal might be town.

Superbia is a bit fishy

Glowingbear is a bit fishy because he posted that comment about there being a mafia between hopeless and holyflare. It's just such a bad way to think about things, and it's also a very cheap comment to make as mafia as it absolves you from actually having to threaten anyone by calling them scum. If he thinks his statement is true, why didn't he try to figure out which one it is immediately and then post his result?

Hopeless is meh

Storr.. idk. He wrote that case on... fecal? I kinda think the case is more likely to make storr town, but I don't think it's a correct case.

Why is Skydragon town?


Because of how he reacted to the train on Holyflare. Like I can't quite explain it but his answer just felt like he genuinely thought he was doing something good by pointing it out. Obviously it wasn't useful as the random vote train wooshed his head a bit, but his response revealed something about him.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2014 16:36 GMT
#349
I'll finish reading this tonight guys, see you in a while.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2014 22:09 GMT
#388
is skydragon not mafia newbie, just this site newbie?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 26 2014 09:32 GMT
#532
Filters time:

On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.

Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.


That's reading way too much into something obviously thrown out as a wild guess. Like you're just creating talking points here.

On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.

Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.

I'll probably be gone until this time tomorrow but should be generally more active when I'm around during my evenings. (Just started a new job, dont want to play at work)


Because that's his scum read and if the case didn't go through he should be asking more questions to Haru to get more information?

Lol...

HF's case on Haru was literally based on one post that was demonstrably false using out-of-thread but public information. Again, why try to stick with such a case? Refusing to "overlook" (which is a strange way to phrase it btw) his case would be way more suspicious than dropping it like he already has. The fact that this seems suspicious to you makes YOU look suspicious to me.


Because it's easy, as scum, to pick on a tiny problem to bus a partner then drop the read.

That is so incredibly shallow. Unless I have found surefire scum tomorrow, I'm voting you just based off this interaction.


Why is it shallow? It's not particularly well explained but it's a perfectly valid observation. It makes Glowingbear dumb, but if glowingbear is mafia this is not why. Like I don't understand the connection that because GB is saying something stupid, or far-fetched, that he must be mafia?

On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
btw, fecalfeast is behaving pretty similar to last game imo. No reason to hate on him just yet. Palmar seems to have gotten upset that no one uses the voting thread to follow his policy and has taken up a silent protest. Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK.
I'm gone for now, see you all later.



This feels like commentary with no conclusion. What's up with his comment on me here? Unless he's trying to be funny I just don't understand what the point here is.

I don't know. I'm getting literally zero townvibes from Hopeless this game.

Between doing very little, only committing to a single read (GB = Scum), then attempting to bury GB for what is at best very slightly scummy, I'd say Hopeless is a pretty good scum candidate today.

I'm gonna throw this out, then read some more filters and see what I come up with. Currently he's number 1 on my list.


Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 26 2014 09:36 GMT
#533
I'm not gonna explain at length, but I think Obi might be town this game. It's not a strong read, but in general his entire tone felt a bit townie.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 26 2014 09:38 GMT
#534
For the record, despite my earlier concerns, Glowingbear is the towniest town in town. Never lynch.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 26 2014 09:43 GMT
#535
There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead.

He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish)

Evidence 1.

On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.

Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now


That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1.


"I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help"


Evidence 2.

On September 26 2014 00:02 HaruRH wrote:
I am coming out to say I won't be doing shit for this few days because I am going to lol worlds. You must expect lower activity (lower than my lowest activity games). However, I will find a worthy person to sheep. So far, given my observations, I would actually call GB WOLF.


Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason.

Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 26 2014 09:48 GMT
#536
Regarding Skydragon, I want to clear up my read on him, and why I'm rescinding it and going to read his filter with no alignment assumption in mind:

When he made this post:

On September 25 2014 08:24 SkyDragon wrote:
I know I'm new around here but what's up with the vote train on Holyflare? If that isn't considered suspicious as fuck, I don't know what is. Would it not be easier to just let the Seer do his/her job instead of lynching random villag.. I mean, er, "Vanillagers"?


I read it and thought "That's cute, the newbie actually thinks that the random votes mean anything at all!". That also mean he's genuine when he is worried about the voting train, and that feels like a townie response. However, if he is actually an experienced player then I'd actually rather kill him for it.

But I'll have to wait until I read his filter to make a judgement. If there's anything mafia has taught me, it's the validity of the phrase: "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 26 2014 09:49 GMT
#537
Taking a break now, I'll do more filters later if I have time.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 26 2014 09:50 GMT
#538
I'll refresh the page occasionally for questions, but please don't ask me about things I haven't read well.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 26 2014 10:51 GMT
#542
On September 26 2014 19:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:
There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead.

He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish)

Evidence 1.

On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.

Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now


That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1.


"I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help"


Evidence 2.

On September 26 2014 00:02 HaruRH wrote:
I am coming out to say I won't be doing shit for this few days because I am going to lol worlds. You must expect lower activity (lower than my lowest activity games). However, I will find a worthy person to sheep. So far, given my observations, I would actually call GB WOLF.


Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason.

Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options.


How does this make sense at all? You say there's nothing alignment indicative in haru's filter but then you say that rather than nothing there's one post (first quote) that is probably towny indicative.... but you want to kill haru...?


I think it's quite obvious what I mean. I know my first language isn't english, but I don't understand what is confusing you. The opening statement is correct. There is nothing in his filter I consider concrete enough to make a call on his alignment, and I think he'd be a great policy lynch/shot if we don't have anything other to work with.

The latter statement, clearly specifies "if anything" and "slightly", which indicates that while I don't think it's very useful at all, that if you held a gun to my head and made me make a call on his alignment, I'd use that thought process. It's still way too weak for me to actually say "he's town" based on it. I just pointed out that it's a slight tip in that direction, but not enough to make his filter in general lean one way or the other, and not enough to make him any less of a good policy lynch.

I am actually quite surprised I had to explain this to you. I actually want to ask OTHER people a question:

Did anyone else find my opening and closing statements contradictory?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 26 2014 10:51 GMT
#544
Also Holyflare, I am far more interested in you commenting on Hopeless.
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