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Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 06 2014 03:34 GMT
#19
/in

I'm dying to run in another game. Let's go.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 15 2014 04:54 GMT
#127
Hi.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 15 2014 05:36 GMT
#134
On April 15 2014 14:32 ObviousOne wrote:
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On April 15 2014 13:54 Cavalinho wrote:
Hi.

Right on, right on. What you thinking about right now?


Nothing has happened yet.

So...Nothing.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 15 2014 19:05 GMT
#258
On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes.


Uhh.

Also I don't get the points in your post at all.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 03:56 GMT
#295
On April 16 2014 07:23 OneThousandWords wrote:
I also find it odd how Cavalinho has chosen to respond to posts in the thread. His chose his first posts of the game to say hi and that he isn't going to comment on anything because nothing has happened. I find this in and of itself strange. When people first start the game they usually start to converse with people or even talk about policy, however, Cavalinho decided not to have any part of the conversation whatsoever.

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On April 15 2014 14:36 Cavalinho wrote:
On April 15 2014 14:32 ObviousOne wrote:
On April 15 2014 13:54 Cavalinho wrote:
Hi.

Right on, right on. What you thinking about right now?


Nothing has happened yet.

So...Nothing.


Now, understandably we do not know the circumstances and I'd like to hear more from him but then he returns to the thread after quite some time to post, well, nothing. His only real post is a post to jump on discrediting OmniEulogy (whether justly or not).

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On April 16 2014 04:05 Cavalinho wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes.


Uhh.

Also I don't get the points in your post at all.


I find this an odd behavioural tidbit because IMO this is not a townies mindset.


I have three posts and you're scumreading me off them. That doesn't make any sense. I'd actually argue, but you have no real information to determine my alignment one way or the other. (Though, in all fairness, I have been somewhat inactive.)

Oddness aside, I'm actually going to go ahead and say that I somewhat like this post in the sense that it feels like you're trying to generate discussion. Sure, it's wrong, but that happens. With the activity of the thread being so mediocre as it stands, trying to generate discussion is a pro-town move in my eyes.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 03:56 GMT
#296
On April 16 2014 06:09 FirmTofu wrote:
Djagulingu is fairly unimpressive. His activity is commendable, but altogether useless. Most of his posts are one-liners that seek to aggravate or provoke. I see a lot of unsubstantiated accusations in his filter. He's running around trying to piss everyone off all at once without any attempt at substantive discussion. His focus on his own meta is especially interesting and reflective of an egotistical personality. For that reason, I believe his aggressive behavior in thread so far is due to a heightened sense of superiority rather than something alignment-indicative. That is to say, he'd be acting like a douche whether he was mafia or town.


Why did you make this post? It's nothing more than a wall-of-text with no real meat in it that reaches no definitive conclusion.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 04:27 GMT
#297
Looking through FT's filter, I see a big post that discredits Omni without actually coming to any conclusion aside from trying to make him look bad, a long post on skab that boils down to "he claimed vig, so he's probably town," and a big post that doesn't go anywhere.

I think it's really easy to look like you're doing something in a game like this, where there's little content and big posts look good, but even a quick glance reveals that he isn't actually doing anything in his posts. The only exception is his sole townread which is needlessly long and has already been discussed by other players.

##Vote FirmTofu

Thrawn's filter is shitty too, but it's shitty in a blatant way rather than a way where he looks like he's doing something but he isn't. I'd like to hear more from him as well.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 05:24 GMT
#300
On April 16 2014 13:48 FirmTofu wrote:
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On April 16 2014 12:56 Cavalinho wrote:
On April 16 2014 06:09 FirmTofu wrote:
Djagulingu is fairly unimpressive. His activity is commendable, but altogether useless. Most of his posts are one-liners that seek to aggravate or provoke. I see a lot of unsubstantiated accusations in his filter. He's running around trying to piss everyone off all at once without any attempt at substantive discussion. His focus on his own meta is especially interesting and reflective of an egotistical personality. For that reason, I believe his aggressive behavior in thread so far is due to a heightened sense of superiority rather than something alignment-indicative. That is to say, he'd be acting like a douche whether he was mafia or town.


Why did you make this post? It's nothing more than a wall-of-text with no real meat in it that reaches no definitive conclusion.

Because Koshi wanted me to give my thoughts on him? I wouldn't have mentioned him otherwise.


Yes, but you don't actually think anything in this post. It's just a wall of words that ultimately goes nowhere. Why would you insist on making a giant wall of nothing rather than just say "I don't have any opinion on this guy yet?"

It's as if you wanted to be seen as doing things while ultimately accomplishing nothing.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 05:30 GMT
#303
On April 16 2014 14:22 ObviousOne wrote:@Cavalinho - admits he looks scummy, seemingly focuses in on FT for calling him scummy, lol. This thing regarding FT is pretty funny since the game is only like 10 pages long and it's the missing context that makes me think you're just clicking filters looking for an easy target. Need another scum read from you, mate.


1) I never said I looked scummy. I said I was inactive, and asking me to talk more is a reasonable thing to ask.
2) FT never even talked to me until I posted my vote on him. OTW was the one who made a read on me.
3) I said that the short case posted on me is, at best, null and silly, due to my three posts having no alignment-indicative information in them whatsoever

If you're going to pressure me, at least get the details right. Cripes.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 05:36 GMT
#305
I'm not actually sure where this conversation was at any point.

Go to sleep.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 18:33 GMT
#490
Your whole reasoning for voting me is that I'm focusing on FT rather than mderg. Guess what? I think mderg is scummy too. I just wanted to bring FT's actions into the spotlight rather than mderg's because more people were focusing on mderg.

Also, I have a question for you kush. Why is it that you ask me a question, and when you don't receive an answer due to me not being anywhere near the thread for some time, you vote me and say that I'm just focusing on FT? That's scummy. It's like you were planning on voting me regardless of my answer.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 18:37 GMT
#493
On April 17 2014 03:34 kushm4sta wrote:
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On April 17 2014 03:33 Cavalinho wrote:
Your whole reasoning for voting me is that I'm focusing on FT rather than mderg. Guess what? I think mderg is scummy too. I just wanted to bring FT's actions into the spotlight rather than mderg's because more people were focusing on mderg.

Also, I have a question for you kush. Why is it that you ask me a question, and when you don't receive an answer due to me not being anywhere near the thread for some time, you vote me and say that I'm just focusing on FT? That's scummy. It's like you were planning on voting me regardless of my answer.


How is that my only reason for thinking you are scummy? That is one of many reasons.


From my point of view, it looks like that's what it boils down to. If there are more reasons, tell me what they are, because I don't see it.

Also, what's up with my handle? >.>
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 18:50 GMT
#503
On April 17 2014 03:43 kushm4sta wrote:
my case on cavalinho outlined

1. you think FT is scummy for answering a question thoroughly, rather than just saying "im null on that guy

2 you are calling FT scummy for one very unspecific, generic reason: He is writing a lot while not doing anything, basically. And you keep saying that in different words over and over again.

3 it looks nothing like your town game, where the reasoning behind your reads are much more in depth.

4 You are scumreading FT, when what you are scum reading them for, not taking a stance, mberg does much worse. Oh you had a secret scumread on mberg, ok...


1) It's not because he answered a question thoroughly. He didn't answer it thoroughly. He made a post that looked like he was doing analysis which boiled down to an analysis with no definitive conclusion.

2) His filter is less than a page long. He doesn't answer my questions and doesn't really respond to/deny accusations. It's possible he's genuinely afk, but I'm going to keep my vote on him until he convinces me otherwise.

3) Newbie games and regular games are two completely different things. Just because my reads aren't as elaborate as they were, that doesn't mean my reads were necessarily better then. The key difference is that I was outing my reads as a whole, rather than just scumreads.

4) You act like I was supposed to ignore mderg so I would look scummy, and then I admit I have a scumread on him too. This makes me scummy...How, exactly? I don't understand your logic.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 19:18 GMT
#512
Kush, I already told you that I found FT and mderg to be scummy, but I wanted to bring FT's filter to light over mderg due to the number of people focusing on mderg.

On another topic, I have a slight townread on you. I feel like you're trying to solve the game, and I don't think I'll be voting for you today unless some ridiculous bullshit comes up. You're wrong, of course, but your posts have a town vibe to them. I find it difficult to elaborate on you as a whole, because the way the regulars play and the way the newbies play are completely different. Your method of posting is much more breezy and geared towards normal speech rather than the wall-of-text posts that newbies have.

My vote is probably going to stay on FT or mderg for now.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 19:22 GMT
#513
On April 17 2014 04:16 OneThousandWords wrote:
Also, Kush, I've read what you think of Cav and I agree to an extent. I do give him bonus points for bringing up a player that was relatively unmentioned by the rest of the players here though. I think what Cav said does actually hold some merit. Tofu was just responding to questions from Koshi and while they may be elaborate ways of saying a player is null (I don't agree with Cav that this is something scum do) they were all just responses to Koshi asking a question about a player and the responses were fairly basic. All he really talked about was Skanjab's claim probably being a town claim which is what was already said in the thread before. His read on Dja was also not very analytical, it was a tone null read, which is an odd way to approach a read on a player who was active at the start of the game and had posts to talk about.

The point that I agree on though is that Cav's filter is very one dimensional. It exclusively talks about a player who has not very many posts and afk'd at the start of the game. This would be an easy person to pick on for mafia and the fact that he has no real mention of other players (not just mderg) is slightly more worrying. Then, rather than elaborate on more reads or question things or show his thought process he just defends against accusations more and more when under no real pressure which is odd.

@Cav, you mentioned you had a scum read on mderg for similar posting. Why did you not mention him? Have you got a read on any other players at this time?


For the sake of giving information, I think you, Koshi, and Kush are town. I've already given my opinions on you and Kush.

Koshi just strikes me as town for the moment. The way he's coaching people in this game and trying to dictate the pace of the thread by making people post more feels townie to me. He's pressuring people and giving reads and trying to get rid of people he can't read. (Even though I'm one of them. -.-

I think mderg and FT are scummy, for the same reasons that I've elaborated on. FT needs to talk more though.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 19:22 GMT
#514
And I've already said multiple times why I voted for FT over mderg.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 16 2014 19:24 GMT
#515
Also that smiley didn't turn out the way I wanted it to.

Disregard pls.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 17 2014 03:29 GMT
#743
Cool, I'm getting tunneled out of the game for bad reasons again.

And furthermore, can the mods please count my vote on FT? Here, I'll make it again:

##Vote FT

Kush's case on me is hysterically bad. Like, I actually think I want to punch him in the face for the shit he's saying. I've responded to it multiple times in an effort to debunk it, but it doesn't seem like he actually gives a shit about what I'm saying.

I could say that about the majority of the people on my wagon. Rofl.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 17 2014 03:29 GMT
#744
Also, Vivax is bleeding town out of his eyeballs for trying to save this god awful lynch. Just want to throw that out there.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
April 17 2014 03:30 GMT
#746
On April 17 2014 12:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On April 17 2014 12:24 Vivax wrote:
And why is Cava scum, thrawn?


-poe

-he hasn't done anything townie


Cool.

Discuss Vivax's last post on why my lynch is bad pls.
Spectaticle
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