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On April 02 2014 03:47 prplhz wrote: so maybe the mayor doesn't matter much so how we rank these groups. i think we should have annoying unreadable players on d1 since more time with them isn't going to give us more information. there's a small consideration in that we kind of might get people's flip when their group is up so it might be a good idea to put a group with good players in d3 so later towns have something to go on for sure. dunno though, all of these groups seems okay. if anything, i think cell4 is a good group for first lynch. I more or less agree with this. On April 02 2014 04:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Palmar is probably the player I have the hardest time reading in this game. It's going to be hard trying to figure the scum in my own cell, even. You don´t have to necessarily focus only on your cell to find scum, so it shouldn´t be too much of a problem. | ||
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On April 02 2014 04:14 Balla24 wrote: What are you agreeing with? There's plenty of stuff in there. Mayors don't matter? Cell4 should go first? Unreadable player cell first? Is there even a cell here that you consider full of "unreadable players"? Same to you @prplhz. Everything but Cell 4 going first, since I don´t know that much about the players in this game. This also answers the second question... I don´t know enough about the players to call any of them unreadable but I hope this changes as day1 progresses. | ||
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On April 02 2014 04:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I consider myself perfectly readable. I am town, thus I know that I am town. I consider myself pretty easy to read by others, if I had to guess what my town/scum features would be, it's that I get a lot more frustrated as town. In Noir I was a lot more logical and active than usual because I had 5 people to calm me down and streamline my behavior. With town I either get mad and stop caring (Nuclear Winter), or tunnel someone because I can't be arsed to do anything else (Roulette). I hate things like the bolded part, just doesn´t add anything. Everybody claims to be town. The analysis on yourself is interesting, I think it is very difficult to read peope who know their "town/scum features" | ||
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On April 02 2014 05:00 Balla24 wrote: We can talk about plenty. How mderg's posts so far have been useless and scummy maybe? Why did you "more or less agree" if you aren't going to say what you disagree with to start with? Good question. I´m not even sure myself, On April 02 2014 05:02 getmoript wrote: 2->4->3->1->5 is clearly the best pattern and me/Cav should 100% be the mayor. Like it's obvious, I refuse to let anyone else be the mayor and will policy lynch anyone who goes against me as mayor. Any reason for this? | ||
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On April 02 2014 05:12 getmoript wrote: No I don't like your reasoning. I'm not saying you're wrong on what you've said (skimmed), but the stance: Is a super odd stance for a towny to make. It's neither stating, "I don't fucking care who mayor is and I don't fucking care about the order" OR "I super care about who the mayor is and what the order is." I've seen and played in a number of odd games and I've taken a number of unique stances about things myself, but I don't think I've ever seen a stance that's so bland about it. Like that's a really, really weird way to approach this game and I'm not liking you right now for not picking up on this specifically. I don´t think it´s that odd of a stance for a towny. For me it´s pretty clear from his post that to him the mayor doesn´t matter but the cell order seems important to him, because the mayor can´t just stand against a huge majority. I also don´t think the mayor is important, as the majority decides who the mayor is the same way the mayority should decide the order of the cell votes. | ||
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On April 02 2014 05:23 getmoript wrote: I disagree. I want to be mayor because I want Holyflare out super early on. I don't trust him to play lategame because the groups are mostly 1 good player and 2 ok players. That moves to town loss super quickly. Plus, we should be voting town for mayor because they can give a reasonable assessment of who the "powerful scum" are that they want early. Low hanging fruit scum who are not likely to affect the game are fine to keep in until later on. I don't get why you'd want to trust players who aren't as good to decide your fate. I 100% think I can nail scum in the first two groups but I'm also realistic that there's a good chance for mislynching in those first two as well. You don´t have to be mayor to get Holyflare out early on. If your reasoning is good there might be a chance of other people sharing your opinion thus leading to him being out early on. You can´t really tell who is town at the moment, so voting town as mayor is quite difficult. Also (as I already said) I don´t think it is too immportant who the mayor is. Exchanging opinions on the cell order and letting the majority decide seems like the best option for me. | ||
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On April 02 2014 05:31 getmoript wrote: It's because we want mayor. No other reason. You haven´t really elaborated on why you should be mayor, though. Right now you´re basically just saying that you´re awesome and should be mayor... doesn´t really convince me. | ||
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On April 02 2014 06:10 gumshoe wrote: Steveling plays alot of video games, he lives in greece(athens, its 11:57 over there at the time of this post) and has been known to post/stay up/game late. He also likes quality literature and is invested in public conflict (like the syrian civil war). Which gives me the sense he is excited to play mafia overall and I find he can be quite active at the start of games (have not played with him in some time but thats my old impression). Seems interesting that he feels the need to recalibrate instead when this is really the best time to jump on the game, I mean theres only like 6 pages so far, perhaps he wants to tread lightly? Rayn watcha think? I´m not Rayn... but Steveling really likes to watch champions league and I know it can be taxing to watch close and exciting games. So there´s probably not much to tell from this. On April 02 2014 06:14 gumshoe wrote: If hes up for lynch he is put in a position where he is forced to contribute, the quality of that contribution would be telling. In a way he´s forced to contribute regardless of being up for a lynch. Also I don´t think he will stay quiet just because he isn´t up for lynching immediately. I´m gonna go to sleep now btw | ||
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Narrowing down our vision on only gumshoe seems bad to me. Even if he is scum, it doesn´t tell us much about any connections because right now everybody is ganging up on him. Also my name is mderg. Not mdreg, mdern, derg or anything else. | ||
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On April 03 2014 00:46 Palmar wrote: I have no idea why mderp cares about his name. it´s really annoying to see your name written wrongly countless times | ||
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On April 03 2014 00:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote: mderg, Could you provide some reads? You entered the thread with a very generic statement. how do you read: raynpelikonoshi gumshoe Steveling raynpelikonoshi - likely town pushing different cases, logical reasoning but a bit too much focus on gumshoe gumshoe - scummy 90% focused on rayn, only based on a "trap" Steveling - neutral It seems towny to me that he was unsure about gumshoe when filtering his posts(why would scum be unsure). but after saying that people should focus mostly on their own cells he basically made one filter post about both and then continued to watch them battling | ||
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On April 03 2014 01:05 gumshoe wrote: Why would I go all out to defend you if I'm scum? Are you an idiot? What do I gain? And of course I'm focused on Rayn, I know hes scum and hes leading town by the hand, wouldnt you be attacking him if you knew that too? That also hasnt stopped me from going after Holy and others, who do you think is scum in your cell You did go all out to defend me? I didn´t see it that way. Also you could get towny points, if I get lynched and flip town. I´m leaning towards Tehpoofter mostly because he tells about the perfect scum strategy and then continues to play exactly opposite to that. This seems a bit too good. | ||
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We seem to have a different take on going all out, then | ||
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On April 03 2014 01:18 gumshoe wrote: I said you were 100 percent town, then proceeded to attack Holy, thats pretty all out. if I am scum I am playing insane and sub optimal when all I have to do is watch you get rolled. Why? What makes Rayn town? The fact that hes good at the game? Hes always good XD. There was already quite some pressure on you, though(still much less than now). So hypothetically defending me could give you town points when I flip green. Or I would be an easy kill, if you get lynched on day1. | ||
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On April 03 2014 01:29 gumshoe wrote: Sigh, your really over thinking it, in Cultured I had a similar all out green read on a player called Mocsta, I just think your town bro, why ya gotta hate me for it T_T also I understand there are reasons to do what I did, but the negatives are 1) instant ire of town 2) easy point for scum to jump on 3) doesnt help me at all as scum, because as you said, I am more likely to know your alignment if I'm scum, therefore there are no realy lynch benefits. The only real reason I'd defend you is because I dont want you to get lynched / : Just because you had a similar read in a different game it doesn´t have to be the same kind of play here. You defending me is not what makes you seem scummy, it´s just that it also doesn´t make you look town. Also I think it was pretty clear that I wouldn´t get lynched just because of the bandwagon that was forming. It takes more than just that. So I don´t think it put you in immediate danger. | ||
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On April 03 2014 01:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote: mderg do you think gumshoe is mafia? If so, can you vote me for Mayor? Right now he looks pretty scummy, yes. I still think it doesn´t really matter who the mayor is, so I have no problem with that. ##vote raynpelikonoshi | ||
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On April 03 2014 03:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Let go of this already. There is not a single player in this game who shares my stance. You look a hella scummy because you are overly defensive over an argument one player made and noone believes. Why are you overly defensive? Do you think i can make all the people vote for you instead of gumshoe with an argument noone besides me believes? ~rayn I think that exactly him being overly defensive makes him look like town. There´s no reason why scum would be worried about you changing your stance. If not a single player is sharing your stance scum doesn´t need to be worried. This sudden switch doesn´t make any sense to me. That´s not any less scummy than Steveling being overly defensive. | ||
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