My idea kinda died anyway.

I just remembered that rayn also did a townclaim at the beginning of titanic, and that he didn't really in foundation, but reading back I found that he opened with that unvoting plan in default suspicion, so whatever.

In no way shape or form does rayn "town claim" like Palmar says flat out. It's a statement that is alignment null. He could be town, he could be mafia. Who knows? Palmar knows, that's who.

##Vote Palmar

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 04:08 GMT

#167

Thrawn, why have you said nothing and then ninja voted in the voting thread?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 04:08 GMT

#168

On March 26 2014 12:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
##vote: IAmRobik

for lazy people

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 04:18 GMT

#171

On March 26 2014 13:13 IAmRobik wrote:

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I mean...I agree that palmar is scum, but I disagree with your whole post. I took Rayn's post as a town claim, and I read him town from it (cause I'm the sick-nastiest at tone reads....and I read Rayn like a boss).

How can you say that when in his own words it is alignment null? If you think that is a town claim you need to brush up on town claims. If he was mafia and saw how stacked town was he would say "town wins this belt" if he was town he could also say "town wins this belt" because town hasn't won any of the belts so far. If I had to look at it from an initial stand point it looks like rayn is saying he is scum because how could he possibly know that town would win this belt if he doesn't know who is a part of town?

On March 26 2014 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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I sometimes claim town as town, sometimes i claim town as scum. Sometimes i don't as either alignment.

Also, Have you not been reading? Why take this as a town tell when the player himself says it isn't?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 04:22 GMT

#174

So why do you not mention that rayn is super town based on x, y, z but instead mention that you read him as town from an alignment null post? Were you lying?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 04:38 GMT

#176

You read rayn town from his posts? All he has done is ask a question that didn't lead anywhere and then heavily defend palmars intentions from gumshoe?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 04:42 GMT

#177

In fact:

On March 26 2014 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Over-explained answer could be indicative of scumshoe. He tried to over-explain shit last game (geript's PYP) as mafia and it backpedalled quite hard. He also knows i am a tunnely guy and he also knows my questions have motive behind them so therefore he knows he must answer to me.

Joke is a joke, but gumshoe getting possibly scared as scum was worth a try.

He says over-explanation coming from gumshoe could be scum gumshoe and then makes posts that imply scum motives:

On March 26 2014 10:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you leave out the post where he contributes to my answer?

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Why are you selectively quoting posts and not taking account the whole conversation?

but then instantly says "i give up", does rayn give up as town or does he tunnel shit into the ground?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 04:47 GMT

#179

foundation is not a game that you should base assumptions on rayns play on

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 04:56 GMT

#181

On March 26 2014 13:52 IAmRobik wrote:
RAYN IS TOWN. I AM TOWN.

You already said Palmar is mafia. I share this sentiment. I don't know why you keep barraging me with these questions and keep saying not to read Rayn town.

Is there someone you can read well? Is there someone who people who unequivocally follow you if you said they're town/mafia? I am damn sure on Rayn this game. I am willing to reevaluate if it comes to some strange fucking mylo with a confirmed town and then rayn and me, but at this stage, you should just trust this read.

because I do not KNOW palmar is mafia, how do you know rayn is town? You haven't explained the read, you haven't provided evidence for your read you just say it is true because of his alignment null post. You expect me to blindly agree when the evidence points towards rayn not playing a townlike game? I have played like 10 games with rayn, you've seen him be mafia once. Why is your read so good and mine is not taken at face value?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 05:01 GMT

#184

On March 26 2014 14:00 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause I'm just that damn good.

Or arguably awful if you can't convince other people of your read cz you know... that is what this game is about

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 05:02 GMT

#185

You think Palmar is mafia and rayn heavily heavily defends Palmars intentions and his mindset yet you think rayn is town for defending mafia even though you said Palmars posts were contradictory?

Holyflare

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March 26 2014 05:14 GMT

#188

point 3 is obviously a lie