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On February 24 2014 17:05 Promethelax wrote: Taking a break, last game I played made me too mad. I don't want to play when the game isn't fun for me, I'll be spectating for a while and I'll end up playing again in a few months. I can't resist the siren call of mafia. You will come back with a powerful townie artefact, looking forward to that. | ||
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On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote: Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that. If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer? What I don't like about this post is that he can't simply say what he thinks about suki, but feels like has to put a Mocsta townread in front of it. That reads to me like he feels pressured to overjustify for picking a side in the debate, which is something I could see scum doing in a town vs. town argument, after all you're always painfully aware that what you say just isn't right, so you need to create a story. And this looks like a story, the story of how you think suki could be scum ONLY after thinking that mocsta is town, which is something I don't see townies do at D1. Explanation: Gumshoe feels that he can't attack suki without supporting Moc cause he thinks that he would look like his lacking suspicion of Mocsta was unjustified. Like, in a hypothetical town vs town argument as scum you would think that you can't attack one townie without clearing the other. Moreover you can see that the part about Mocsta could be construed (in best-case scenario, ie gum town) as a justification for sheeping him ("but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit"), but gumshoe doesn't exactly use Mocsta's arguments (tryhard looking posts, "why-not-vote-for-me-question") and brings his own, which strengthens the overjustification version of events. The last bit with the nostalgia is either overanalyzing (if town) or making stuff up (if scum), so I think it should be disregarded entirely for now (@ geript). _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Nitpicking from this case is strictly forbidden, either you address all points and give a conclusive opinion or your remarks will be ignored. | ||
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Interesting perspective. I'm curious though, why bring this up now after gumshoe has all but been questioned to death and people are attempting to move on? Interesting perspective isn't an opinion, Wave. And showing past posts that give you the impression that somebody could be scum is the essence of this game. How does gum having already been discussed affect the points brought up? it's completely irrelevant. Mocsta Vivax Does this mean you think I am town? Not yet, but it's the scenario where a scum gumshoe is most likely to act that way imo. There's always the chance that suki is also scum (and gum picks your side and throws some soft suspicion onto suki to gain cred). I don't think that a scum gumshoe would act that way if you were scum though. I don't want to get too deep into connections just yet, but independently I have to add that gumshoe offers suki a premise that she could be town If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer? in the conclusion of that post, and a way to comment on it based on that premise, which is pretty weird cause he just called out some points as scummy and then basically offers her the way out by adding two explanations on why her behavior wasn't necessarily scummy. Thus I wonder why gumshoe felt like he had to call it out as scummy in the first place if he already thinks that there are alternative explanations. | ||
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On February 27 2014 03:11 geript wrote: Because I didn't want to break my seal virginity yet. I has special plans for where and when to break said seal virginity. Speaking of which everyone should consider playing in Handslaps and fisticuffs later on. Or Coag has disallowed you to do that when you're scum since you might threaten the seal's sanctity. I suppose we will never know until you have flipped, but Grackaroni was indeed town when he posted it at the start of my last game. Go from town zero to town hero to scum zero. Anyway, can you explain this post to me? On February 27 2014 01:37 geript wrote: He's scummyish. Like his jokes aren't funny to me and he didn't really troll at all early on and when he did it was all wrong. But I feel like he detunneled from rayn in a pretty towny fashion. He's scummy for trolling matters (not serious). He's townie for detunneling (serious). Conclusion, he's scummy. I fail to understand how you get to a conclusion in this. Is this even conclusive? If not, expound on WoS please. | ||
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On February 27 2014 03:54 Holyflare wrote: Got anything other than your gumshoe point? I notice how you only conclude that his post is scum orientated but don't pressure it further, ask him about it or vote him, yet, with Geript you ask him to elaborate on posts you aren't sure about and pressure him to expand on his reads. Why is that? Geript is here, gumshoe isn't lol | ||
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For example, I have acknowledged that geript found something in WoS' play odd but doesn't mention what out of his own volition. | ||
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On February 27 2014 04:03 Holyflare wrote: So gumshoe is still on the backburner for you or have his posts when you weren't here changed that? I posted my points after his last post. Still waiting for him to comment on that. Jeez dude get to the damn point, it feels like I'm answering pointless questions, you are like an annoying journalist, why don't you tell me why you're even asking me all this seemingly baseless stuff? On February 27 2014 04:04 geript wrote: Driving. I thought you wanted me to post on the detunnel thing. Well don't write while driving bro. Anyway when you get home I'll be interested into getting a more conclusive read of WoS from you, and hearing of those points you found odd if you don't mind. | ||
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Gumshoe has my points to comment on, he can explain why he felt like he had to townread one and scumread the other, and why he calls suki scummy, then asks which circumstance is the correct explanation for her behavior in the case that she's town (which looks like he's offering her an out, taking away pressure from her). He basically gave her two possible explanations for her behaviour to pick from that don't picture her as scummy, and that after mentioning points that point to him thinking the opposite. | ||
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