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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 05 2014 23:36 GMT
#10
PLS NOT ME SCUM PLS.

Also I think you should lower the possible blue power that town has... I do think it's op. Maybe 1 max blue role or something like that. Or no blue roles, that'd be nice too!
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 05 2014 23:42 GMT
#17
On February 06 2014 08:40 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 06 2014 08:36 Balla24 wrote:
PLS NOT ME SCUM PLS.

Also I think you should lower the possible blue power that town has... I do think it's op. Maybe 1 max blue role or something like that. Or no blue roles, that'd be nice too!

Don't be scum Balla I don't wanna have to lynch my clone D:

Holy shit though we literally are clones like wtf... it's gonna be so stupid if one of us rolls scum....

It'll just be like:

"Man wtf Balla you didn't think exactly like me you're probably scum

##vote Balla24"
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 23:44:27
February 05 2014 23:43 GMT
#19
On February 06 2014 08:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On February 06 2014 08:33 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 06 2014 08:31 suki wrote:
Here's the plan. Everybody that I make cases on for being scum D1, just ignore me and lynch the people who I think are probably town. Easy win.

Suki I had you as town from your case on Oats. But don't let people talk you out of your case so easily. Hopeless being afk for a full day is scummy. There is no townie reason to do it.

You say that now, but I do that as town as well. LXIV most recently.


delete this post pls

EDIT: whoops ur not in the current game
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 00:00 GMT
#41
On February 06 2014 08:34 JonnyLaw wrote:
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On February 06 2014 08:32 jaybrundage wrote:
Jonny please no tunnel


Man I felt so vindicated when LM flipped doc. The let down.


I can't imagine what you were thinking during that whole ordeal:

- Man i'm gaining steam, JB is so fucking scum.
- GOD DAMNIT i just outted the doctor
- OH SICK FUCKING 100% CONFIRMED MAFIA!
- (lonemeow flips) FUCKING KNEW IT YOU LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT
- (artanis) god fucking damnit
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 00:01 GMT
#43
On February 06 2014 09:01 Koshi wrote:
- (koshi) trolololololol


koshi's just like: "uh what? ok? LOL"
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 00:03 GMT
#48
Lonemeow is all like:

- fuck jb is totally scum
- god damnit now i have to cc or i get lynched and i probably will still anywyas cause I always get lynched as doctor
- (gets lynched) fuck this im out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 00:04 GMT
#50
On February 06 2014 09:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Little known fact, JB and I started playing mafia basically in the same game, hosted by my all-time favorite host, Zona. It was a newbie game with a couple of vets, notably Palmar smurfing in as Electricblack. Before then JB had played in MM X, and we had both taken part in the massive clusterfuck that was TL Mafia XLVII.


Suki is pretty ancient too. In her newbie games she has like... sandroba and sciberbia IIRC.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 00:07 GMT
#53
I think the main part is you have fun regardless of what happens, whereas lots of others don't ^_^
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 00:11:22
February 06 2014 00:09 GMT
#56
fuck this game let's go full themed non try hard retardedly unbalanced game for funsies, tonight has me laughing so hard that i'm not even motivated to play a serious game hahaha

I claim Harry Potter.

EDIT: LOL I JUST HEARD SIDESPRANG'S COACH WAS HOLYFLARE FUCK I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 00:12 GMT
#59
On February 06 2014 09:11 Toadesstern wrote:
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On February 06 2014 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 06 2014 09:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 06 2014 08:58 Koshi wrote:
3 way confirmed town masons sound not op at all.

Its fine, BH can just coach this time. Nothing can go wrong. <3BH.


People always joke about how i'm terrible at mafia, and I always goof around and pretend that I think I'm a god of mafia when really i'm not. The joke is that i'm bad at mafia-- and it's funny. But in all seriousness I'm literally a figurative god of mafia.

People sacrifice goats to me and I smite my enemies. This has literally figuratively happened.

E: seriously though I'm not that bad

Everytime you say that I remember that game were you fakeclaimed Doctor as a VT despite town having a real doctor and told everyone that noone needs to worry about Syllo (I think it was Syllo?) because you're going to protect him and the real Doctor ended up protecting someone else because of that.
Obviously Syllo (or whoever it was, it was a strong VET though) died that night.

Was that the legendary annul game? I mean you're not that bad... but you're weird and always have these weird, very complex plans that in 99% of the cases will fail horribly.


HAH! That's fucking awesome!

It's so good because this game. I was going to claim vig and hope that everybody joined me and claimed vig with me so that vig gets a guaranteed shot on jaybrundage without RB. But foolishness told me not to
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 00:28 GMT
#63
On February 06 2014 09:22 suki wrote:
Like I would have been like.. Great. Now we have a fake doctor claim AND a fake vig claim.

I'd probably shoot Jay and then push for your lynch day 2 haha.


Haha yeah, it'd be too hard to coordinate for everybody to claim vig so it wasn't worth it. Maybe it would have been worth it for me to just say "EVERYBODY CLAIM VIG", then there's some wifom already for mafia.

I would have retracted as soon as day 2 started, would be pretty easy to explain myself.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 01:08 GMT
#72
EVERYONE SHOULD JOIN VOICE MAFIA FOR LULZ!

Especially you jonny i think you'd be funny here.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 01:14 GMT
#74
On February 06 2014 10:14 JonnyLaw wrote:
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On February 06 2014 10:08 Balla24 wrote:
EVERYONE SHOULD JOIN VOICE MAFIA FOR LULZ!

Especially you jonny i think you'd be funny here.



I rage enough in forum mafia.


Exactly. You'd be great for voice!
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 06:52 GMT
#79
On February 06 2014 15:37 LoneMeow wrote:
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On February 06 2014 10:08 Balla24 wrote:
EVERYONE SHOULD JOIN VOICE MAFIA FOR LULZ!

Especially you jonny i think you'd be funny here.


You'd just mislynch me on D1, I'm terrible at this game. Also my spoken English isn't anywhere near as good as my written (which admittedly isn't perfect either).


Meh. In hindsight my read on you was mad weak. I wanted to pressure you myslf, but JB took the honors. My hopeless read was much stronger which is why I was hesitant to switch in the first place. Its just that it was also heavily based on the fact that he was afk, and people weren't biting on that.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 21:07 GMT
#94
I'm so excited :hype:
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 21:59 GMT
#98
Balla's absolutely idiotic PROBABILITY MAFIA


Here's what I think is going on this game.

Using your last 3 games, I have calculated everybody on the playerlist's chances of rolling mafia this game using basic math. I did not use games that you replaced into, as there is a possibility of it being likelier to replace into one alignment rather than the other, nor did I use ongoing games unless you have already flipped and thus everybody knows your alignment already and could not affect the game. I did use information from the last game, since it totally counts, unless you replaced into the game.

Let's start:
For each player, I found their last 3 games, and in each of those games I calculated the probability for each alignment and wrote down your alignment in that game. The probably incorrect mathematical theory is within the spoiler below:

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In this game, every player has a 72% chance to roll town and a 28% chance to roll mafia.
To calculate the chances of rolling mafia in this game if you have rolled town 3 times out of 3:
P(town% game 1) * P(town% game 2) * P(town% game3) *P(mafia) = P(of a TTTM situation)
To calculate the chances of rolling mafia in this game if you have rolled town 2 times out of 3:
P(town% game 1) * P(town% game 2) * P(mafia% game1) * P(mafia) = P(of a TTMM situation)
To calculate the chances of rolling mafia in this game if you have rolled town 1 times out of 3:
P(town%game1) * P(mafia% game1) * P(mafia% game2) * P(mafia) = P(of a TMMM situation)
And so on and so forth. If you have rolled mafia at ALL then the chances of any situation goes down significantly.
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Note: that these are all independent events and in reality your chances of rolling mafia are completely independent of your previous games, therefore this is all bullshit anyways, but its fun! Also, fuck you jonny!!!


Based on that theory:

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Aquanim: T(.75) * T(.75) * T(.8) * M(.28) * 100% = 12.6% of rolling mafia
Alakaslam: T(.8) * T(.76) * T(.72) * M(.28) * 100% = 12.2% chance to roll mafia
Sidesprang: T(.76) * M(.28) * T(.76) * M(.28) * 100% = 4.52% chance to roll mafia
LoneMeow: T(.72) * M(.25) * T(.8) * M(.28) * 100% = 4.03% chance to roll mafia
Jaybrundage: T(.72) * T(.76) * M(.25) * M(.28) * 100% = 3.83% chance to roll mafia
Hopeless: M(.28) * T(.75)* T(.76) * M(.28) * 100% = 4.46% chance to roll mafia
Oatsmaster: T(.72) * T(.76) * M(.23) * M(.28) * 100% = 3.52% chance to roll mafia
JonnyLaw: T(.76) * T(.76) * T(.72) * M(.28) * 100% = 11.64% chance to roll mafia
Suki: T(.72) * T(.76) * M(.23) * M(.28) * 100% = 3.52% chance to roll mafia
Koshi: M(.27) * T(.8) * M(.23) * M(.28) * 100% = 1.39% chance to roll mafia
Me: T(.72) * M(.23) * M(.22) * M(.28) * 100% = 1.02% chance to roll mafia


The conclusions:


The town
Koshi and I are mathematically literally and figuratively confirmed town. You cannot get more confirmed town than this except with mod-confirmation, regardless of how incredibly anti-town this whole thing is.
Koshi with the 1.39% chance to roll mafia. Me with the 1.02% chance to roll mafia. Fight me on this, I dare you!

Questionable players
Oats
Suki
Jaybrundage

LoneMeow
Hopeless
Sidesprang

This is roughly in order of most to least town. None of you had a chance to post yet, so you all have had weak appearances. I'm okay with them right now since they clearly don't have a very high chance to roll mafia, and it is also obvious that others are probably way more mafia so they are likely to be town.

Mafia
Aquanim
Alakaslam
Jonnylaw


I will go into a little more detail here:

Actually I can't cause there's nothing to go into detail about


With 12.6%, 12.2% and 11.64% chance to roll mafia respectively. These guys are PROBABLY mafia.

This game is solved.

QED.

##Vote Aquanim

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Disclaimer: huehueuhehuehuehueuheuheuhuhe this is all so useless because in reality everybody who has rolled less times as mafia also has a much higher chance to roll town and basically all I did was prove that every game was independent from each other huehuehueuheuheuheuhehuehueuhe... like jonny has a 39% chance to roll town town town town whereas I have a a 3% chance to roll town mafia mafia town and this is all for the lulz huehuehueuheuhehueuheuheuh and also i probably should have used some time of conditional probability formulas like bayern's theorem but i was too lazy to re-learn that so i just made stuff up



Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 22:06 GMT
#110
On February 07 2014 07:04 JonnyLaw wrote:
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On February 07 2014 07:03 suki wrote:
EBWOP: I actually prefer to lynch JonnyLaw (out of Balla's list of scum)



You can never go wrong lynching Balla. The odds our in our favor.

I told you that you hate everything I post.


My post literally, figuratively and mathematically shows that the odds are NOT in our favor to lynch me and lynching you, aquanim and Slam = odds in our favor.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 22:06 GMT
#112
Well maybe the odds are in your favor to lynch me since you're MAFIA.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 22:11 GMT
#118
Aqua recently played in:

Really Small Mafia (replaced into a doc spot, useless game to look at since the game ended pretty much right after he replaced in)

TL Mafia LXIV: A game of intrigue (the non restart) TOWN
Back To Basics (not really recent)

Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 22:13 GMT
#121
Well he's probably mafia. Are you bussing already?
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