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Cephiro
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Automatic + for everyone that isn't rushing to get a lynch done too quickly. | ||
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Cephiro
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Make what you want out of that. I just felt it would be better for me to say something rather than be quiet and keep you guessing if I'll play or not. | ||
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Cephiro
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The flames have also calmed down which makes this more pleasant to step into. I do have an idea about my reads on everyone, but there is no-one that I am certain enough on to treat as town or scum yet. Many of players I consider more towny have certain scenarios in which they are likely to be scum. If I am to be lynched at any point in the game, I will shoot whomever I want. If I am confident in a relevant amount of townreads and they all agree on another target, I will most likely take their advice in that case. DP/Rayn/marv are the players I most likely believe to be town. LSB/WoS are quite neutral. Prome/HF I feel are least likely to be town. Artanis is a ?-Factor. Feel free to present any questions, and I will reply. I am around. I have a few things about a few players I could point out, but I have no interest in doing that now for the following reasons: 1) Some of these things are blatantly clear to the majority of the thread and I do not feel necessary to repeat it. 2) I want to see how certain players continue without me taking an action against them. I guess that's it for now. | ||
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Cephiro
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What ticks off me in your play the most is the intentional annoying of DP to an unnecessary extent which was hardly for a pro-town atmosphere. This also applies to marv, but he's played 80% of the game like an egoistic dick. The remaining 20% are fairly redeeming though, and this game is not about finding or being the nicest players, as much fun as that would be. Prome on the other hand displayed weird qualities several times, especially in the earlygame. It was as if he really didn't care THAT much about whom would get lynched. He clearly proposed several targets even when saying he doesn't want to rush it. Contradictory. His latest posts have been more contributing though, imo. | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Cephiro the thing here is pretty much all other people have reads on each other. We are trying to figure out your alignment because you havn't done shit. Continuing to not do shit is not really a townie way to proceed.. I understand that. But for now I have nothing to offer that will provide us a likely scumlynch, so I refrain from being overly confident on an unsure read and possibly derailing the discussion into tunneling a townie. Things don't always need to be messed with. That's why I'm around now to reply questions. My current playstyle certainly may not be the way all of you would play, and certainly isn't the best townie play either. But I'm town, I'm here, and I'm playing as I find fit for the current situation. You'll just have to deal with it and make of that what you can. Obviously I have nothing against contributing, but for now the way I prefer to do that is by answering questions, since I feel that'll be more useful. | ||
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Cephiro
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Because on what he has posted so far I have absolutely no idea of what his alignment could be. Whereas Wave and LSB both have points both for and against them in a balanced amount, which is why I'm not tipping the way or the other about them. | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 18:51 Holyflare wrote: Anyone played with cephiro on forum before? Does he do this "my plan is complete" only to then reveal... Nothing? Well I do have a tendency of making up all kinds of plans, mostly overly complicated and counting on a small, very unlikely possibility to pull off a huge play. Usually hasn't ended up that well, but practice makes better... You've played with me in several games though, so I'm curious why you are asking about others? You've been around long enough to know. | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 18:55 Holyflare wrote: Like how can you say me and marv did the same thing but then marv is most towny with dp and rayn. While I'm the least towny? 1 of my posts trolled dp and i have 6 pages of filter looool I don't care if you have 0.6, 6, 16, or 60 pages of filter. It's not alignment indicative. There are reasons why I consider your play more likely to be pro-scum than pro-town. As I explained earlier, even though I dislike marv's play in general he has enough good points to back him up as likely town. He could still be scum, I'm open up to all possibilities for now. | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 19:04 Holyflare wrote: You're literally not grasping my point. The only point you raise about my play is 1 post out of 120. You acknowledge your play has been shit if you are town so you need to prove to us you ARE town by elaborating on your reads. You shouldn't have to be asked. I am not concerned about having to prove I am town to you at all. Of course it is of my interest to make other town players trust in me, but figure this: Let's assume I'm a IDGAF townie. Even in that case, 5 other town players can gain an instant majority if they all work together. It is not required of me to spend my time making myself look as town, when I can concentrate on trying to find scum instead. Surely it is in town's best favour if I manage to find mutual partners to trust. Which is why I'm contributing currently by answering questions as I do not have enough to be confident to lynch someone yet. I am planning on pressuring players soon enough. All in time. I raised that point of your play because I found it excessively different from your other play. It isn't about the amount of points I raise, not about the posts I analyse. Why take up something I don't consider of particular importance? @Rayn: Following up an answer to your question soon. | ||
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Cephiro
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As for why, is because of the careless attitude. Usually in my opinion marv as town has interest in trying to prove his points and point out to others why things are as they are. Now he's more about short comments, the occasional question, and keeps hitting his own head in the wall without trying to get through it. One would at least expect there be a reason for doing something as dumb as that. On a re-read I also noticed he missed some completely obvious points which I wouldn't expect him to, such as: On February 04 2014 11:29 marvellosity wrote: Play nice. That scenario removes the doubt from Cephiro's flip, which is a decently good thing. If I am lynched, there is no flip. If I act as proposed, it does not by any means confirm me as scum. Holy, you need to calm down. I already said my entrance wasn't the best. Same can be said about yours. The thing is, we're not here to compare who had the best entrance or who has the best play. We're here to win by cooperation. Whether you are working with a scumteam or not I don't know, but I do know that I intend to work with other townies only. How have you put any work in finding a potential scumread in Artanis? Hardly anything. Sure you've done a lot, but to be pointing out something like that, and just undermining my play further before I even start is unreasonable from a town perspective. So are you going to concentrate at the more important matters at hand or not? | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: but artanis. Why do you want to lynch artanis with his recent post instead of giving him time and a chance? It's not like we're running out of time. Intentionally limiting ourselves only benefits scum. | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 19:44 marvellosity wrote: CEphiro, if you shoot someone blatantly townie when you are lynched, yes it does confirm you as mafia. The fact you are suggesting otherwise is mindboggling. By how bad you called me earlier, you should know that it's completely possible that I'd be stupid enough to act on my own and shoot someone I think is mafia and fooling all of town, is it not? | ||
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Cephiro
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Do you think I would be stupid enough to do that as town? Based on things you've said earlier it would seem that you do. Based on yourself not considering it a possibility, you don't. Which is it? | ||
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Cephiro
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Whom would you shoot out of the remaining players if rayn and artanis weren't available? | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 19:52 marvellosity wrote: Why would I shoot outside of the two people who are extremely likely to be mafia? That's not worthwhile me answering. But continuing to ignore specific questions and going into specifics about only the ones you want is worthwhile? Are you that confident about your play seeming town to everyone else? | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 19:53 Holyflare wrote: Dude just stop replying and stating the obvious shit and elaborate on your list. I have outlined why PROMETHELAX is scum and dp has even quoted all my shit saying why, which you'd know if you actually were reading the thread.... Artanis was pointed out as scum by other people hence why i said WE have found the scummy reads which you contributed nothing towards. Your play wouldn't be undermined if you actually cooperated. Why can't i be the IDGAF towny who just wants to find scum. You are looking like the outlier here. If you want to continue discussing with me, the following will be required: 1) Stop making false assumptions such as that I'm not reading the thread. 2) Stop saying I do not cooperate, it's why I'm here right now replying whether you ask stupid or smart things. 3) Stop thinking of me as the IDGAF townie, it was merely an example. Sure, multiple people have said artanis as scum. What have any of you really done about that? You've merely come to a conclusion that yeah, he's probably scum based on a few points. There are much better cases available, yet you talk about it like you had achieved something together. It's almost equal to as if you had stated earlier that "Yeah, Cephiro is a lurking fuck." That didn't require any work now did it? | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 19:55 marvellosity wrote: Only going into specifics about people I think are scum? Gosh darnit. What a terrible way to play. Asking for a third target without even asking reasoning is not going into specific. Read more carefully instead of making terrible assumptions.  | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 19:58 marvellosity wrote: No there aren't, Artanis is 100% confirmed mafia, he has posted elsewhere in the forum and not here, he would give up as mafia and he would never give up as town. Terrible terrible post. Ah. So this is where you go "I already solved the game ezpz." -part? The only 100% thing here is that you don't know what you're talking about right now. | ||
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Cephiro
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On February 05 2014 20:02 Holyflare wrote: I Want Your Fucking Proper Reads I am making a new acronym IWYFR. You are wasting time telling us you will cooperate but are asking random crap questions instead of answering questions. I've answered pretty much every question of yours so far, have I not? What is a proper read to you? Elaborating on that, maybe you should read my earlier posts once more? | ||
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Cephiro
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As I mentioned several times earlier, I am not very certain on my reads right now, which is why I don't think it's a good idea for me to start hardpressuring someone I am unsure of, and be called even more bad by other townies on top of that. | ||
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