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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 14 2014 20:12 GMT
#755
Hi

Gonna read the thread but two things

1) being apathetic to who are the hydras helps to read them. I've played with and against hydras, and it's a lot harder for them as scum then as town. Town hydras tend to not focus on interactions and have a more aloof sense of the game. Good scum hydras attempt to do the same, but where it gets funny is when they need to defend themselves. Then they let you know who's doing the talking lol
2) if a blue role needs to claim, just say blue, especially I you are boxer. This happened last game with a few people claiming boxers when I was a cop, and it kinda narrowed how open my claim would be. I would just keep quiet and do the setup math in your head until later.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 14 2014 21:21 GMT
#761
ShiaoPi! Come on down!

Want to explain your sheepskin, your lurking or your poking fun of the blue people?

##Vote ShiaoPi
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 14 2014 21:26 GMT
#762
Voting grack is playing against your win condition if you are town btw.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 15 2014 06:42 GMT
#777
On February 15 2014 07:57 VIVAX420 wrote:
this is a noob scumteam and we dont need the advantage of waiting a week to lynch one of them. we are just wasting time IMO.


Wut...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 15 2014 06:53 GMT
#779
How are you both so certain this early into the game that mafia don't have a "good player" on their team. Give me a single good reason why going slow isn't better. Yall ignorant.

Don't defend an awful line.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 15 2014 07:49 GMT
#782
On February 15 2014 16:24 VIVAX420 wrote:
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On February 15 2014 15:53 bumatlarge wrote:
How are you both so certain this early into the game that mafia don't have a "good player" on their team. Give me a single good reason why going slow isn't better. Yall ignorant.

Don't defend an awful line.


I think there are pros and cons to going slow. A lot of people have discussed this. I would like to lynch shaopi now, mostly because I'm bored. I don't like IML.


I don't see the cons, but talking about feels like a waste. I don't like IML as town. As mafia it's great!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 15 2014 17:33 GMT
#808
On February 16 2014 01:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
if you guys really lynch me based on this stuff you are terrible :D
nobody even cares about my reads so looks like to you sillys d1 lynch is already decided. Why should I care about writing stuff out if you ignore it anyway. btw vivax gets moar scum points for rolefishing


Just explain why you think QP is scum. Gumshoe or a replacement isn't here yet so we can wait as long as we need to. No one has decided shit about d1, you just happen to look bad enough that you are about to get lynched. If you are town, getting lynched is your problem.

I would care about your reads, but there is so little substance, especially to your strongest read, that it is hard to care about it.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 15 2014 17:35 GMT
#809
That said, I'm still on the go slow plan. Gumshoe/replace isn't here, and until then we can afford to wait.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 00:21 GMT
#819
I'm cautious about how many people are jumping on Shiao. Even if I think he's the scummiest I've come across in the thread, the reasons aren't all that strong. Sure he has little content and doesn't seem to be improving them, but day 1 townies do this.

Mattchew, I think this is what you usually do, but can you give a little more detail to who you are accusing? I wouldn't insult the game of mafia by calling them reads. You seem "ok with lynching X" about all of the time. The only thing I've liked about what you said so far is about sidespring. Do you have more on every other player in the game you've mentioned?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 00:22 GMT
#820
On February 16 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:
Soooooo, it's a good thing I didn't access my computer last night or I would have spammed some dumb drunk shit. I agree that shiao looks super scummy and if he's town, it's 100% his fault if he gets mislynched. His "reads" are lackluster at best and his "anger" about getting "mislynched" is laughable.

Vivax and roundabound,

The 4 of you failed me.


gumshoe,

A lot is going to be expected of you. Please make the best use of your posts. There are a lot of really towny people in my eyes and just a few scummy ones, so you're gonna have to prove yourself.


Can you tell me more about the 4 who have failed you?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 00:32 GMT
#821
On February 15 2014 22:03 ShiaoPi wrote:
some short summary to work with:

townreads:

ShiaoPi - most obv town ever (yay!)
DNP/Bumatlarge - leaning town
roundabound - pretty surely in town

scummy guys:
quantumpope - feels like best lynch today
mattchew - nonfactor and nothing to show for
mordanis - see above
vivax - this one is more tricky. I did not like the entrance and the half assed shit on thrawn. he is doing the same shit to me. Quoting not my last scumgame and also a large one instead of a mini/smaller sized. just fyi that is the first post from my last scumgame:
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On June 09 2013 13:42 ShiaoPi wrote:
sooo....anybody here?

also would you in the interest of all please start signing your goddamn posts? kush and vivax are at least in my opinion totally different players and it makes a shitton of difference who is posting. Makes me feel like you are purposely doing it to confuse us.


rest is pretty much nullish. see you later (yea I am a lazy guy)


I hope you know this post is why people are voting you. Put it this way, you are making it really easy for mafia to vote you, and town won't be able to tell. QuantomPope seems to be fitting his meta that he had in the LSB Restart game, which lead him to be shot by a vig. He was a boon to my mafia team, and gave us a strong edge just because of how much a single misread town player trips up town from figuring the game out. You can't really accuse people for calling out bad play as town, so it keeps the game from developing which is ideal for mafia. You are currently in that boat. It is very easy to avoid getting lynched day 1 as long as you remain active and open. Look at Robot, I'm not a big fan of how he is approaching the game, but I would be surprised if he flips scum this game.

It seems like you have a stronger read on Vivax then you do QuantomPope. Can you respond to what he has said. I would appreciate if you two(three?) would hash out what you think of each other. I'm in the same boat with your scum list, but because you don't go into much detail, I can't benefit from what you think!

Lazy people get lynched dude I know this first-hand.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 00:51 GMT
#823
Ah, hydras confused me.

It's hard to enforce such a scope of reads on randoms. Such is forums, people can just ignore certain things.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 01:01 GMT
#827
I hope to god you are mafia thrawn. I thirst for vengeance from restart.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 01:05 GMT
#829
Oh baby you know I like it when you act scummy...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 02:04 GMT
#841
ONLY I GET TO HAMMER.

ME.

NOT YOU.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 02:15 GMT
#845
On February 16 2014 11:12 Grackaroni wrote:
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On February 16 2014 11:04 bumatlarge wrote:
ONLY I GET TO HAMMER.

ME.

NOT YOU.

We should join forces for a more surprising hammer/


Only if you are the hatter.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 02:17 GMT
#847
We wait for three.

Shiao (unlikely)
Gumshoe (said tonight american=soon)
Mordanis (?)

Even trolling procures content sometimes... like some as in not much.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 02:21 GMT
#848
Throw QP in there too, he's actually playing a lot different to his previous town game.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 04:56 GMT
#861
D:

wtf
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2014 08:04 GMT
#866
Do you think we are not going to vote you now? I can't see a reason not to take this seriously...

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