EPTNormal Mini Mafia: Episode I
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Are mafia powers able to be switched between mates? | ||
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On January 20 2014 13:02 suki wrote: So is kush's plan dumb? Or do you think it could help us in the future and there's a reason that's pretty potent? Or are you just indifferent to the whole matter? Inconsistent views on kush's plan (he think's it's dumb / sees arguments for it / is mostly indifferent). Wishy-washy. And I just hate the bolded red line in general. ##unvote ##vote VisceraEyes The scum hunt is strong with this one. I'd like VE to explain his thought process on the first part, he seems to be changing his mind mid post, then it would make more sense as town. | ||
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I disagree, the only reason you think it's reasonable is because he is holding back because he probably wrong about you. I'm just working out what I can remember from VE if he posts like this as town. | ||
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On January 20 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: So here are bumatlarge's posts: green: believes claim red: says claim is fake which is it? This is a question that has been answered twice in the thread already. Useless "contribution" or not even reading the thread. Scum hunting is not strong with that one. The first part is entirely false and that's all he's talking about. Again implying the claim is true, and now he is not really suspicious of VE in the end. TLDR; Here's what bum's posts say this far - Does believe the claim but does not believe the claim - Says VE is scummy but VE is not necessarily scummy - Asks a question that's been answered 2 times already. ##Vote: bumatlarge Rayn, next time you grow the balls to analyze me, do me the common courtesy of reading it before you post so I don't have to waste time answering it. From now on if you have a post that you took 3 seconds to scrounge together an you want me to chime in/repspond to it, I'm not going to if I don't think you are trying. 1 - Completely misread 2 - Completely misconstrued 3 - Who cares? Oh look the exact same amount of effort! On January 20 2014 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oops okay, i misread the red colored part so ignore that. However it does not really matter as that's not really any sort of contribution as it says nothing useful. VE, scum don't need to claim anything at all at this point of the game. Why do you think that's the case? kush why am i town? Oh, I'm completely wrong. but I'll take "minimal blame an keep my vote where it is" for 400 Alex. On January 20 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: You have literally disagreed with every single thing VE has said in this game, how is it possible for you to have a town read on him? WHAT KIND OF AWFUL ANTAGONIZING STATEMENT IS THAT? Only you would come to a conclusion like that. Either Rayn has no interest in winning or applying himself, yet insists to post whatever pops into his hea into the thread, or he's mafia. You'd think I'd vote for him, BUT THERE IS ACTUALLY SOMEONE EVEN WORSE. VisceraEyes ladies and gentlemen! On January 20 2014 22:51 suki wrote: I think Rayn is stretching a bit with his conclusions but that he's pointed out Bum's general attitude this far: Bum is sitting on the fence in general, and he's not contributing to scum hunting. Bum, who do you find scummy and why? Rayn's inane posting visibly having its effect on people. I'm allowed to be somewhat reserved in the first hour I enter the threa suki. And even then, if you read my posts, I am clearly not on the fence. The only thing holing me back from lynching VE is that I know he can be silly sometimes, but even afterwards, it perpetuates in all his posts even after the fact. On January 20 2014 22:44 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah that all looks really bad. I'm assuming this is referencing rayn's post. I have to restrain myself from calling this the worst post, because I've witnessed townies doing this. Rayn makes a post about me. All of it is wrong. VE in the most generic and assuming way possible, agrees with it. Again, I've seen a townie do this, and I want to be sure about this. I mean, VE might have just skimmed it an be reconsidering agreeing- On January 20 2014 23:04 VisceraEyes wrote: What do you think of bum kush? I liked rayns post on the matter, and agree he looks bad. What do you think? On January 20 2014 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I think the timing is such that it is more likely to be a scum fakeclaim than town, but I'm not 100% sold on it. The more we talk about it, the more I can see a townie just not caring what he said earlier, and I guess it's less likely that scum would do something completely against what they previously went on record saying. I can give Slam more time I guess. ##Unvote ##Vote bumatlarge Alright, I can't ignore this blatant display of anti-town. 1. Blinly agrees with bad analysis. Maybe that's subjective, and I'm biased because it is against me. I'd make this point null. 2. Fails to support his own view, AND PROCEEDS TO ASK SOMEONE ELSES OPINION ON THAT. Looks like he wants to talk about it, but has no interest in actually doing that. Why not ask someone else to do it for you while doing nothing yourself? I don't even think VE planned it out that way, it was just instinct. 3. This asinine persistence to post about VT claims that have nothing to do with day 1. WHO CARES WHOS CLAIMING IT. It one of the most dead-end conversations I have ever seen. And it's WIFOM. Anyone can say it with 0 detriment, and I would have no opinion on it as of right now. PSA: BUM IS A CLAIMED VT. THAT IS ALL, CONTINUE SKIMMING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU AREN'T ACTUALLY READING THIS POST. YOU DUMB BASTARDS ##Vote VisceraEyes | ||
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Rayn - "VE, ask kush more question like me." VE - "I'm trying!" | ||
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On January 21 2014 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: wow. such angriness It's rare to see Bum angry. This is the part where you either argue with me or you bus VE after giving no read on him this whole game, but have asked just about everyone here what there read of him is. I suggest it be the former. | ||
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On January 20 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Scum hunting is not strong with that one. The first part is entirely false and that's all he's talking about. In no way is it "entirely false". Suki points out multiple lapses in VE's thought process. You can change your mind, but throwing phrases out like, "that's dumb" or "I'm indifferent" are strong blanket statements to lay down. Clearly VE is either rapidly changing his mind throughout his posts, giving us no indication of where it's going, or he is not thinking his posts through, which he shouldn't be doing as town. I say point out that VE is capable of doing this as town. Again implying the claim is true, and now he is not really suspicious of VE in the end. Anytime you use the word "imply", it means you are trying to read into something deeper into the post. I do mean I believed Wile, but it was because I thought VE was scummy, and I was appealing to Wile to look at it from his viewpoint if he were town. Now, if you fail to see that I'm "implying" that I have a scum read on VE here, you wouldn't assume I was suspicious of him in the first place. Rayn did read into it that I thought VE is scum, but rather chooses to view it that I'm tripping over my own reads, which is clearly not what I'm saying, and Rayn knows this. "I'm just working out what I can remember from VE if he posts like this as town" Interpretation is key. I clearly mean "I think VE is scum, and the only thing making me reconsider is if he actually posts like this as town." I have played quite a few games with VE, but they were a while ago. All in all, I think Rayn misconstrued what I said here, an possibly purposefully. Townies do do this with analysis, because they want to be right, especially if an ego is present, and interpretation is where alot of analyses hit speed bumps. I do think Rayn is scum here though. | ||
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But as JLaw linked, kush does do that as town. He was a bit more aggressive there though. On December 04 2013 00:03 kushm4sta wrote: DO NOT LYNCH BUM. I think it's literally impossible for scum to think this way. His thought process is so freaking town. I'm not biased at all! To be fair, PYP progresses a lot faster then a normal game like this, so I believe Kush wouldn't have concrete reasons this game. I think it sub-optimal for townies to give other townies a gut town read unless they are being pressured hard, but this isn't different from what I know about kush. I'm calm now rayn, you continue to give me more on Kush, and I will attempt to be unbiased in reading it. | ||
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On January 21 2014 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: bumatlarge: There is nothing wrong in those quotes suki brought up. VE thinks kush's plan is bad and VE is not sure if claiming/not claiming Boxers is best play. Where is the inconsistancy? He does not change his mind anywhere. Uh-oh. WAS I THE WRONG ONE? I'll go back and read it. | ||
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On January 21 2014 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: He said he wanted to go back and check if VE does that as town. I want to know his conclusions as he pretty much promised to do so. If you thought I was going to go back into another game I played with him and provide examples of this, I am sorry. It was a mental meta in the back of my head from ages past. I actually can't remember anything concrete, just a foggy notion that he can do this as town. | ||
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On January 21 2014 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: bumatlarge, i would also like to know who are all of these people i have asked what their read on VE is. You said i have asked "ust about everyone here what there read of him is". Why don't you back that up with quotes of me asking those "everyone" what their read on VE is? It might have been just you asking kush twelve times in your filter. I'm going to re-evalute things. I pretty much did what VE did and called him scum. Suki makes case on VE, bum - "cool", rayn makes case on bum, VE - "cool" "OMG VE DIDNT EVEN READ IT" | ||
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On January 20 2014 13:02 suki wrote: So is kush's plan dumb? Or do you think it could help us in the future and there's a reason that's pretty potent? Or are you just indifferent to the whole matter? Inconsistent views on kush's plan (he think's it's dumb / sees arguments for it / is mostly indifferent). Wishy-washy. And I just hate the bolded red line in general. ##unvote ##vote VisceraEyes To be fair, I was not expecting all three initial posts to be completely taken out of context. | ||
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There is a threshold of how scummy you look by how poor you are that you are no longer town. I think VE passed that. | ||
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On January 21 2014 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: What? Look at his case on VE again. Nothing ends with "he is mafia because of this". Everything ends in "but he could do that as town too so i am unsure". On January 21 2014 01:47 bumatlarge wrote: You'd think I'd vote for him, BUT THERE IS ACTUALLY SOMEONE EVEN WORSE. VisceraEyes ladies and gentlemen! Rayn's inane posting visibly having its effect on people. I'm allowed to be somewhat reserved in the first hour I enter the threa suki. And even then, if you read my posts, I am clearly not on the fence. The only thing holing me back from lynching VE is that I know he can be silly sometimes, but even afterwards, it perpetuates in all his posts even after the fact. he is mafia because of this I'm assuming this is referencing rayn's post. he is mafia because of this I have to restrain myself from calling this the worst post, because I've witnessed townies doing this. he is mafia because of this. Rayn makes a post about me. All of it is wrong. VE in the most generic and assuming way possible, agrees with it. Again, I've seen a townie do this, and I want to be sure about this. he is mafia because of this. I mean, VE might have just skimmed it an be reconsidering agreeing. he is mafia because of this anyway Alright, I can't ignore this blatant display of anti-town. 1. Blinly agrees with bad analysis. Maybe that's subjective, and I'm biased because it is against me. I'd make this point null. he is mafia because of this 2. Fails to support his own view, AND PROCEEDS TO ASK SOMEONE ELSES OPINION ON THAT. he is mafia because of this. Looks like he wants to talk about it, but has no interest in actually doing that. Why not ask someone else to do it for you while doing nothing yourself? he is mafia because of this. I don't even think VE planned it out that way, it was just instinct. he is mafia because of this 3. This asinine persistence to post about VT claims that have nothing to do with day 1. he is mafia because of this. WHO CARES WHOS CLAIMING IT. It one of the most dead-end conversations I have ever seen. he is mafia because of this. And it's WIFOM. Anyone can say it with 0 detriment, and I would have no opinion on it as of right now. he is mafia because of this PSA: BUM IS A CLAIMED VT. THAT IS ALL, CONTINUE SKIMMING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU AREN'T ACTUALLY READING THIS POST. YOU DUMB BASTARDS he is mafia because of this ##Vote VisceraEyeshe is mafia because of this Fixed to be more Rayn friendly. I think VE is mafia. he is mafia because of this :D | ||
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On January 21 2014 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so you think VE could do pretty much all of these things as town aswell but not all in the same game? Or do you think too much little weird things that add up? On January 21 2014 03:15 bumatlarge wrote: There is a threshold of how scummy you look by how poor you are playing that you are no longer town. I think VE passed that. | ||
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And I believe Barristan is the last person that needs to post. I'd suggest people start to vote now so we can see where we are at. I think there is enough content that people should be able to make some reasonable reads. | ||
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