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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 14 2014 04:42 GMT
#35
/in

Will be active for sure this time
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 14 2014 04:43 GMT
#36
On January 14 2014 13:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
Town Butcher

You are a regular townie, however your occupation leaves you with bloodstained hands each night so you show up red to detective checks. You are not self-aware

Wanted to nerf town?


Its likely cause I raged about self aware millers to him in pms. There is no reason for a miller to be self aware as it removes the purpose of the role -_-
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 14 2014 04:53 GMT
#39
On January 14 2014 13:48 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 13:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
/in

Will be active for sure this time


psh you have to see your alignment before you know that


haha alignment had nothing to do with it. I had just made a ton of plans all at once.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 16:17 GMT
#426
Welcome thread. The day is saved for BC is here.

Dont vote for VE or BH. Both clearly cannot be trusted in power. Look at the last few games of bh performances (you know that guy isnt strong enough to lead).

As for VE, experience dictates hes too easily manipulated in PM style games. Neither of them would make good choices to lead our town. Instead we should be voting for someone far more reliable. Vote for me, the majestically powerful BC.

I, if elected, will shank GGtemplar for being insanely scum.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 17:08 GMT
#433
quantumpope for next likely scum on the chopping block for crafting posts.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 17:36 GMT
#441
On January 27 2014 02:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
BC I may agree with you with regard to GGTemplar, but I want to hear your reasoning for thinking he's scum.

I also think that BH is scum for a specific, PM related reason that I'm not willing to share with the group, but I will say that he's not floating my boat in the thread either.


active blue hunting while not posting a ton of contributions. His support of kush early is just wtf in my opinion as well and no sensible person would do.

Also pope your post was clearly crafted as you said

have all contributed quite a bit as well but something about these people’s early reasoning does not sit well with me. Maybe they’re scum hunting with their comments but the interactions just don’t scream town for me. I am just not particularly excited about what these people have to say.



At the time of your post I had one post, made less than an hour before your post. Skanj had like 2 posts, and storr has like 4-5.

None of us have contributed quite a bit. Its clearly a post made in retardation and it was crafted with next to no real thought behind it.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 17:44 GMT
#446
On January 27 2014 02:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
oh god why are there so many pages full of incomprehensible scribblings??? ? ?
BC are you scum?
You seem like scum.


scum? No, I found the fuckup in your giant post. There is no way that in one post from two players you can claim we both posted quite a lot. Simple straight up fact.

You clearly had a list of people that you divided into different categories with bullshit justifications.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 17:45 GMT
#447
bah, oats i thought that was pope i was responding to, just replace "you" with pope" in that post.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 17:49 GMT
#451
On January 27 2014 02:41 Skanjab1s wrote:
I like you BC, lets be friends.

But, ohwait, why did you make that lovely campaign post but then not vote for yourself?

Why would you do that to me BC
Why



Why would I need to auto vote myself? If the thread wants me as mayor they should vote me in, plain and simple.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 18:43 GMT
#478
Im willing to concede my post early about VE was likely wrong given my personal interactions with him via past games which shouldn't be indicative of his ability at this point. I know that my own experiences (and lack of reading games i dont play in) dont neccesarily indicate his skill level. I personally would still prefer myself as mayor but the reasons i used to discredit him aren't fully accurate.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 18:45 GMT
#480
On January 27 2014 03:41 QuantumPope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 02:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
active blue hunting while not posting a ton of contributions. His support of kush early is just wtf in my opinion as well and no sensible person would do.

Also pope your post was clearly crafted as you said

have all contributed quite a bit as well but something about these people’s early reasoning does not sit well with me. Maybe they’re scum hunting with their comments but the interactions just don’t scream town for me. I am just not particularly excited about what these people have to say.



At the time of your post I had one post, made less than an hour before your post. Skanj had like 2 posts, and storr has like 4-5.

None of us have contributed quite a bit. Its clearly a post made in retardation and it was crafted with next to no real thought behind it.


I generalized to be concise. Long posts that doesn't seem to say anything, for instance the one I am quoting, doesn't really do anything for town. I could write a 2000 word post going into specifics of various individuals in the thread but I find it posts like that only hinder town. Your personal attacks on my character also seem to be unsubstantiated so I'd love for you could please elaborate on the following:

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On January 27 2014 02:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
His support of kush early is just wtf in my opinion as well and no sensible person would do.

I don't see the problem with supporting kush? I happen to be a very sensible person but if you could happen to enlighten me as to why this is a bad read it would be greatly appreciated.

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On January 27 2014 02:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Its clearly a post made in retardation and it was crafted with next to no real thought behind it.

You try to discredit my reads...with no counter argument and by calling me retarded. Want to elaborate?



Your post was crafted. It was vague, included 0 reads. The "bad" people were listed with flawed reasoning that you had for placing them there, etc...

You only provided "full" reads on your town reads when asked and they were shoddy. Also anyone who has experienced games with kush should know fully where I am coming from. Its no secret that he trolls a fuck ton and randomly vanishes or just does random shit. Getting a town read on him is fine, putting him in power is not.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 19:36 GMT
#520
BH why would I ever vote for you after your last few games here? As well as trust someone who is playing terribly in PM land?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 19:42 GMT
#521
On January 27 2014 04:13 QuantumPope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 03:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Your post was crafted. It was vague, included 0 reads. The "bad" people were listed with flawed reasoning that you had for placing them there, etc...

You only provided "full" reads on your town reads when asked and they were shoddy. Also anyone who has experienced games with kush should know fully where I am coming from. Its no secret that he trolls a fuck ton and randomly vanishes or just does random shit. Getting a town read on him is fine, putting him in power is not.


I appreciate a post like this much more than your previous one. You lack of personal attacks and actually trying to give me a read is helpful instead of trying to play on my emotions.

That post was to have town start speaking about my reads and have me explain them further. By doing this it allows town to gather information on why you pinged that person and shows interaction. You decided to personally attack me without trying to think why someone would post like that and read my scummy for it. You also seemed to be grasping at straws when I felt like I gave good arguments to my reasoning. If you are into specific reads so much why have given none and been tunneling on my posting style instead of asking questions to have me elaborate? Especially if you don't like some of those reads.

As for kush: I have never supported him. I'm trying to see where you got that?I'll let this first day let me get a better read and I have taken your words into consideration but my read on him has not changed. He is not being town read, nor is he someone I want in power.

Overall I think I've defeated a lot of the pressure brought towards me but I'd love to see what more people think of my reads.

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On January 27 2014 03:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
QP, why did you write a list post SO EARLY IN THE GAME?

I thought it would be the best way to get my reads out early on in a quick and easy way. As to questioning other people's reads I tend to like that play but I found it too aggressive for my liking.


playing to ones emotions typically gets far more informative answers
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 20:25 GMT
#546
On January 27 2014 05:22 Blazinghand wrote:
you could even argue that a vet is the worst choice since a vet will look town regardless of alignment


Prettty sure I have been seen fairly easily as scum in recent times. I dont tend to fool people past day 3 when im scum. Usually not even that long.

Also I am loving the people stepping out to try and prevent me from being elected.

Also I haven't stated who I will 100% lynch. You know why? Because not even 24 hours has passed in this game. Committing to a lynch with that little information is something no player should ever be doing at this stage.

Give it another 12-18 hours and sure.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 20:36 GMT
#555
Balla I have to ask. You say that you know the most amount of players and that you play with a group of them elsewhere. IE this would give you the most experience with the player base. Not necessarily the most experience at the game but most with the player base. As such how do you classify yourself as a rookie? You clearly know everyone and as such you would have bias'. As someone who says you have more knowledge about a specific group of players would that not inherently mean you are biased in some way towards those people?

Vet bias is silly. If someone is experienced, you trust that they are capable of doing what is required you support them. If a rookie is making a shite ton more sense than the vet and they get the support thats where it lands. But at the end of the day it comes down to the posts.

Trying to undermine someones support on a faulty basis is just silly.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 21:37 GMT
#571
On January 27 2014 06:22 Skanjab1s wrote:
I don't think it's necessarily scummy to bluehunt in PM's.

It's something scum COULD do, but town could do it just the same, and with many different motives.

It's not very indicative in my opinion.


Town has no reason to bluehunt.

If someone claims to you thats one thing, but purposely trying to out roles is fucking retarded as town. People just leaking who has what role to just anyone happens all the damn time in pm games.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 22:33 GMT
#582
On January 27 2014 06:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 06:44 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 27 2014 06:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 27 2014 06:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 27 2014 06:22 Skanjab1s wrote:
I don't think it's necessarily scummy to bluehunt in PM's.

It's something scum COULD do, but town could do it just the same, and with many different motives.

It's not very indicative in my opinion.


Town has no reason to bluehunt.

If someone claims to you thats one thing, but purposely trying to out roles is fucking retarded as town. People just leaking who has what role to just anyone happens all the damn time in pm games.


Not seeing how it could be useful for a town to be able to personally coordinate who is a role or not is fucking retarded.

It can be useful but it's a big reach to expect people to trust you that much at the start of the game.


I didn't really have huge expectations that many people would instantly trust me and answer but it didn't hurt to try though, that is unless everyone reads me scum for trying.


Dude if you were confirmed town looking for blue claims I wouldn't care. Cause hey confirmed town, makes sense.

However to start a game with "are you vanilla or do you have a role" is retardedly fishy. The sad fact is people are dumb enough to answer that claim, or lie to you completely and make you believe shit just cause they dont trust you or cause they are scum.

Your action while potentially having a good outcome if you are town, the way you went about it is fishy as fuck. The fact you haven't really backed down from that though makes me think your just misguided town.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 22:35 GMT
#585
depends. I have to sort out info from a few people that ive been given via pm's however

I still dislike pope
Mocsta has things to answer to
BH has a things to answer to
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 22:35 GMT
#586
So likely one of those 3.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 22:39 GMT
#588
On January 27 2014 07:38 kushm4sta wrote:
i guess mocsta fake claimed mason with alaka in the thread


theres more to it than that actually.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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