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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-21 22:51:24
September 15 2006 14:48 GMT
#1
This post was written for two purposes. One was to spread information regarding a member of our community. The second was to serve as a warning to people online. Not everything is what it seems.

Last week, Zia aka IcedEarth aka oG)Nis aka many many others posted this thread here. In 24 hours, there were over 300 heartfelt responses wishing Zia good luck and a healthy recovery. Some of the responses were lengthy, highly personal and sensitive. People even offered to donate money. I thought it showed the true heart of this forum. However, some of us at TeamLiquid began speaking behind the scenes about the thread and about “Zia” in general. After some investigation, the following was discovered:

IcedEarth browsed TL ten hours before posting that thread. In the evening, they returned to the site, browsed for another 20 minutes, and then spent 25 minutes writing. After that, IcedEarth spent the next 24 hours browsing TL constantly, outside one seven hour stretch. Obviously, the story in the thread is false.

However, there is more. Every post by IcedEarth has been made from the state of Tennessee. This means that it is impossible for this person to have been in many places previously claimed; Scandanavia and Korea.

Lastly, several people close to the Zia character have had doubts about the identity. After speaking with them, the common consensus was that “Zia” did not exist. It was merely a creation by somebody else. These points are simply the most damning in a long list of lies told by “Zia” over a long time.

When I spoke to “Zia” about this, “Zia” admitted it was a fictitious character, but then proceeded to tell me an equally impossible story to explain it. “Zia” has been lying for so long, it is impossible for them to tell the truth. The truth is simply this. “Zia” is a character created by one person, a boy, who decided to act as a girl online. This is not unheard of. What is unusual about it is the length of time and dedication spent to creating this character, and making it believable for so long.

Why post this? There was considerable debate about whether this should be posted or not. Had IcedEarth been only at TL, it may have been let go. However, “Zia” is a well-known figure in the community. “Zia” has also actively tried to cultivate friendships with other gamers, and people have become emotionally involved. In the end, “Zia” has hurt people.

Much of this community is based upon real friendships, it cannot survive otherwise. It is too old. The mods at TL are not simply staff at a website, but are friends who share real feelings and spend time together. The people in clans like .smi are not together only because of a common game, they game together because they form a bond that could exist outside the game. Even this forum, which has many members no longer interested in the game of BW, still hangs together because people form a bond. When one person actively creates those bonds using lies, people get hurt. Be true to yourself online, and if you meet somebody who seems too good to be true, take it with a grain of salt.

As for IcedEarth, I can only hope that the person behind the computer can examine themselves deeply, and decide what value they have gained with their actions. Perhaps they will respond to this, and perhaps they won’t, but I feel that coming clean 100% is the only path to peace of mind.

This message is endorsed by the Administrators of TL.net


/dances in the shower, singing into his hair brush...

Take this pink ribbon off my eyes
I'm exposed
And it's no big surprise
Don't you think I know
Exactly where I stand
This world is forcing me
To hold your hand
'Cause I'm just a girl, little 'ol me
Don't let me out of your sight
I'm just a girl, all pretty and petite
So don't let me have any rights


Ahh Adam, the permanent TL meme. I do wonder what you are up to today. Anyway brave traveler your next clue is A.

Q. 6) The title of the birthday news has a double meaning. What is it?
ModeratorGodfather
kdog3682
Profile Joined September 2004
United States247 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-15 14:54:18
September 15 2006 14:52 GMT
#2


Aka kos-mos lawl

a1, this is that person i had u read about remember?
Yes, shes mine regardless of how gosu my zvt is
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
September 15 2006 14:52 GMT
#3
"Holy shit" is pretty much all I have to say for right now.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Corinthos *
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada1842 Posts
September 15 2006 14:53 GMT
#4
Speechless.
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
September 15 2006 14:54 GMT
#5
thanks for the update mani. thats pretty messed up, its sad that someone would go to such great lengths to coverup a lie that would damage their relationship with people.
gLyo
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States2410 Posts
September 15 2006 14:55 GMT
#6
What the fuck?

I thought Eriador and Zia were, like, fucking (at least for a time)?
http://benisonline.com
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-15 15:00:54
September 15 2006 14:56 GMT
#7
never did like zia, and i didnt like how people treated her softly because she was a girl. can't say i'm horribly surprised and i think this should be a lesson to all about sucking a persons ass just cuz they say there a girl.

i remember one thread where people thought 'she' should be a mod. rofl?

edit: oh yeah and considering 'she' toyed with dozens of peoples emotions in that 'i lost my legs' thread (and countless other friendships/situations) the leniency should end now:
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
GloryOfArt
Profile Joined July 2006
56 Posts
September 15 2006 14:58 GMT
#8
Hahaha... this is the greatest thing I've heard in awhile.
All it takes is being born there.
CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
September 15 2006 15:04 GMT
#9
lololol
that's what you guys get for sucking her dick
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
September 15 2006 15:04 GMT
#10
In the end, all false online identities are discovered.

Act online as you would act offline. So easy. So Clean.
returns upon momentous occasions.
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
September 15 2006 15:05 GMT
#11
Dang, tl drama bomb ;;
Broom
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
September 15 2006 15:07 GMT
#12
well at first i was pissed that everyone jumped on the zia bandwagon the first time i saw one of "Its" post mostly cause she was a "hot" girl, but i was fooled anywho, couple months ago i was in the nch) channel and some dude said he had proof zia wasnt a girl and shit, turns out all the shit he said was what this topic says weird!
troi oi thang map nai!!!
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9633 Posts
September 15 2006 15:10 GMT
#13
the only thing i regret is giving "her" credit for being "so hot"

to everyone without close personal ties, who cares?

to the friends and people close to "her" i would understand other adverse feelings.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
September 15 2006 15:16 GMT
#14
Hrm... er... was "she" really "hot" or what? Were there pics posted at one point in time?
Logic is Overrated
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
September 15 2006 15:16 GMT
#15
HOLY



SHIT


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
September 15 2006 15:17 GMT
#16
On September 16 2006 00:16 Newbistic wrote:
Hrm... er... was "she" really "hot" or what? Were there pics posted at one point in time?

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you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
September 15 2006 15:18 GMT
#17
And all this time I thought it was possible for a cool, attractive girl to be as huge of a fan of Nobuo Uematsu and FF (not to mention SC) as myself.

God damned lies =[
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
September 15 2006 15:19 GMT
#18
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-15 15:20:13
September 15 2006 15:19 GMT
#19
i was referring to the picture of the girl with the cut shirt some weird belt and jeans.

On September 16 2006 00:19 Jumperer wrote:
hey, think of it in a positive light. If this guy didnt do this, he might've shot some people down at a random high school.


lmao
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
September 15 2006 15:20 GMT
#20
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