I went to sleep. For countless reasons, my body was weak, and I've got my first day of classes tomorrow(/today) so I'd prefer to be strong! I was actually hoping to still be asleep right now, but my imagination keeps waking me up with stupid additions to a dream I was having. It's actually really frustrating... /rant over

On January 07 2014 11:22 Corazon wrote:
I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II.
He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks.

This post made me lean scum on cora. Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that), but because he compares Iamp's play in this game to another player's play in a different game. There's no relation between the two aside from the fact that Cora wants to see Iamp as scummy. Like, if his argument is true (iamp is shitflinging), then the conclusion that he is scum follows naturally. The addition of Xatalos's play in another game makes it seem like he subconsciously knows his argument is weak and needs to legitimize it.

mkfuba07

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January 07 2014 07:04 GMT

#263

On January 07 2014 16:00 yamato77 wrote:

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The argument can't both follow naturally and also be weak enough for scum Cora to have a pseudo-psychological need to legitimize it.

It can if he knows he's actually lying. Town do scummy things all the time - it happens. But if you actually know the person you're accusing is a townie doing something scummy, then you feel the need to legitimize it.

mkfuba07

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January 07 2014 07:09 GMT

#267

On January 07 2014 16:04 thrawn2112 wrote:

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I think you are scum because your opinion on Corazon depends on if Iamp was actually shitflinging. But earlier you said "Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that)"

So you're not willing to do research into something that you say makes or breaks your read.

My argument is the opposite. One would assume that cora actually perceived the shitflinging, or at least believes that we could interpret what he's said as shitflinging, but that's not at all a part of my opinion of him. My opinion involves him validating his accusation by comparing iamp's actions to a different scum player in a different game. Saying he's shitflinging and following it up by saying he seems scummy is fine. Saying it's scummy because this other scum did it in another game gives me the impression he finds his own argument weak.

mkfuba07

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January 07 2014 15:46 GMT

#320

The weather outside is frightful -_- Just popping in while I have a few minutes before my first class of the quarter :D

yamato: do you still think my argument about cora makes no sense after I elaborated?

rayn: You said my post made perfect sense, but cora isn't on your scumread list. Por que?

mkfuba07

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January 07 2014 18:26 GMT

#337

@iamp: I can't speak for scum cora specifically, but I'd expect scum in general to be more willing to drop their reads when confronted regarding them. I take it you don't think that's the case with him?

mkfuba07

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January 08 2014 08:27 GMT

#673

Unexpected flu is replacing all of my free time with "try to catch up on sleep" time. Symptoms appear to be gone as of now, though, so I'm hoping my activity will pick up as we move into N1.

Only thing I have to say at the moment is that I'm still up for a Cora lynch. I assume that my posts about him make me one of the people "taking all of his posts and twisting them into lies," but he hasn't responded to what I've said in any way, even though numerous people have agreed at various times throughout the day that it's a valid point.

Wish I could participate more in discussion, but I've got about 6 hours before I have to be up again for class, and I'd like to fill it with as much sleep as possible. I should be free for a few hours leading up to the deadline.

mkfuba07

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January 08 2014 08:51 GMT

#681

On January 08 2014 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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tbh at the time you made the comment about Corazon i was looking forward to his answer because the argument in itself does not make Corazon mafia and is not even necessarily scummy (depending on his answer). Instead it tells more about your alignment as you were clearly trying to figure out the game and thinking in a townie way.

Could you comment on things that have happened in the last pages?

I was kinda hoping for his response too, but it never came. If he's really a townie who feels like people are misconstruing his play, wouldn't he at least comment on something that's been brought up repeatedly?

I just realized that I never actually placed my vote, so...

##Vote: Corazon

Biggest thing of note for me in recent pages is that I was becoming more and more inclined to agree with the scum yamato wagon (his activity felt like his most recent scum game that I was in), but his recent posting explains his previous play, as well as differentiates his play this game from the one I vaguely recall. I'm inclined to trust him.

mkfuba07

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January 08 2014 19:16 GMT

#911

It feels incredibly odd for a townie to consistently call out people for "lying" and "intentionally twisting words," but not feel reasonably sure that those people are scum.

mkfuba07

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January 08 2014 19:25 GMT

#927

On January 09 2014 04:19 thrawn2112 wrote:

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Is Corazon the only person you want to lynch?

At this moment, pretty much. I keep trying to read him as a townie, but things keep jumping out at me.

Class in 5 minutes, gotta run again. Will be out of class in about 1.5 hours, then I'll be here until deadline.

mkfuba07

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January 08 2014 21:19 GMT

#1052

Back from class, catching up from the beginning of p48.

mkfuba07

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January 08 2014 23:05 GMT

#1097

Yeah, from a quick look through his filter in titanic it looks like people were being assholes to him. In any case, he does semi-martyr at the end (says he's done playing and will vote for Xatalos forever), as well as martyring earlier in the game (I believe D1).

mkfuba07

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January 08 2014 23:10 GMT

#1098

Bleh, I forgot I didn't plug in my laptop, so I need to hunt down an open outlet somewhere. If I can't find an open outlet, I won't be here at deadline, but the lynch seems pretty decided. See everyone at dusk~