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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 24 2013 00:12 GMT
#19
/in

All vanilla setup so boring!



I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 13 2014 21:50 GMT
#158
[image loading]

^^ Wave ^^
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 20 2014 16:14 GMT
#195
On January 21 2014 01:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
This better be actually rng'd :x

I can't think of a game I've ever played that wasn't RNGed...


Don't mind the fact that they are RNG'd multiple times until they get the outcome that they want.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 00:31 GMT
#223
On January 21 2014 09:29 sandroba wrote:
I'm trying to figure that out too. My plan as of now is to wait for some scummer to give themselves away in their first post.


Not much of a plan if you're going to warn people about what you're looking for.

##Vote Sandroba

(Did you catch me?)
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 01:34 GMT
#226
On January 21 2014 09:39 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 09:31 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 09:29 sandroba wrote:
I'm trying to figure that out too. My plan as of now is to wait for some scummer to give themselves away in their first post.


Not much of a plan if you're going to warn people about what you're looking for.

##Vote Sandroba

(Did you catch me?)


Normally, even early-game troll votes have some pretense to find someone suspicious/mafia (even if stretched alot).

This post doesn't follow. It doesn't call Sandroba scum in any joking/trolling way. You're just calling his actions dumb, then voting for them. Which is a pretty scummy thought process.

How are you constructing Sandroba's post to be scummy as opposed to just stupid?


What do you think?

Do you think I'm trying to paint sandroba in a bad light using my "scummy thought process" like you mentioned or do you think that it was a random vote with little thought?

Now that you've found something scummy that I've done, am I a better vote than VE?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 01:46 GMT
#228
On January 21 2014 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Welp, gonna go with my usual opener.
I think the only difference here is for the first time I'm actually relieved to roll town. I'd be pretty terrified to go up against this town as scum.


I was kinda hoping to role mafia with the all vanilla setup. They probably have the advantage regardless of who is playing.

Wanna vote sandroba with me? He may or may not be scummy.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 02:00 GMT
#232
On January 21 2014 10:47 austinmcc wrote:
Exactly how did sandroba warn anyone about what he's looking for?

(also, hi)


He tried to warn people to be careful with how they enter the thread. You should have listened!

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 02:28 GMT
#238
On January 21 2014 11:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
If we're talking meta, pressure won't mean anything to sandroba. He'll either play or he won't, and if he's town he'll probably find some scum. People like kita voting for him as a joke will probably not pressure him as much as you seem to think.


I'm not voting him as a joke. I think he is a great vote. We should lynch him today.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 02:53 GMT
#256
On January 21 2014 11:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 11:28 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
If we're talking meta, pressure won't mean anything to sandroba. He'll either play or he won't, and if he's town he'll probably find some scum. People like kita voting for him as a joke will probably not pressure him as much as you seem to think.


I'm not voting him as a joke. I think he is a great vote. We should lynch him today.


Why is he a great vote and/or lynch?

I really don't understand what your objective is here given a recent post of yours...

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On January 21 2014 10:34 kitaman27 wrote:
...
Do you think I'm trying to paint sandroba in a bad light using my "scummy thought process" like you mentioned or do you think that it was a random vote with little thought?
...



I can't point out all the scummy things he posts if he hasn't posted yet. If you were to vote for him then maybe he will respond and I'd have something to give you. Sounds like a win-win to me!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 03:02 GMT
#262
On January 21 2014 12:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:28 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
If we're talking meta, pressure won't mean anything to sandroba. He'll either play or he won't, and if he's town he'll probably find some scum. People like kita voting for him as a joke will probably not pressure him as much as you seem to think.


I'm not voting him as a joke. I think he is a great vote. We should lynch him today.


Why is he a great vote and/or lynch?

I really don't understand what your objective is here given a recent post of yours...

On January 21 2014 10:34 kitaman27 wrote:
...
Do you think I'm trying to paint sandroba in a bad light using my "scummy thought process" like you mentioned or do you think that it was a random vote with little thought?
...



I can't point out all the scummy things he posts if he hasn't posted yet. If you were to vote for him then maybe he will respond and I'd have something to give you. Sounds like a win-win to me!


Can we talk about something serious? What do you think of VE?

He's the topic du-jour.


I can't call VE scummy, else he will vote for me.

I KNOW YOUR SECRETS.

I'd rather talk about marv. He suggest that the all vanilla setup makes things difficult to start off rather than attempting to generate conversation.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 03:16 GMT
#268
On January 21 2014 12:03 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 12:02 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 12:00 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:28 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
If we're talking meta, pressure won't mean anything to sandroba. He'll either play or he won't, and if he's town he'll probably find some scum. People like kita voting for him as a joke will probably not pressure him as much as you seem to think.


I'm not voting him as a joke. I think he is a great vote. We should lynch him today.


Why is he a great vote and/or lynch?

I really don't understand what your objective is here given a recent post of yours...

On January 21 2014 10:34 kitaman27 wrote:
...
Do you think I'm trying to paint sandroba in a bad light using my "scummy thought process" like you mentioned or do you think that it was a random vote with little thought?
...



I can't point out all the scummy things he posts if he hasn't posted yet. If you were to vote for him then maybe he will respond and I'd have something to give you. Sounds like a win-win to me!


Can we talk about something serious? What do you think of VE?

He's the topic du-jour.


I can't call VE scummy, else he will vote for me.

I KNOW YOUR SECRETS.

I'd rather talk about marv. He suggest that the all vanilla setup makes things difficult to start off rather than attempting to generate conversation.


and that makes him...
you seem to forget how to, you know, call people scummy. Give it a go.


If you start calling people scummy and vote for someone off their first post, people won't take you serious later on. I certainly wouldn't do something like that!

The person I find scummiest so far is probably Hapa. The reason to random vote sandroba is because he is incredibly lazy and notorious for getting away without posting on day one. Hapa appears to identify that it would be a good idea to try to apply pressure to a slow starter, yet later suggests that he can't understand my objective. Rather than trying to contribute to the pressure, he is satisfied with asking serious questions such as "Why is he a great vote?", when I think it is pretty obvious that there isn't any content in the thread to justify it.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 03:36 GMT
#270
On January 21 2014 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 12:16 kitaman27 wrote:...The reason to random vote sandroba is because he is incredibly lazy and notorious for getting away without posting on day one.


Well... why wouldn't you post this before? Regardless, several players have mentioned that sandroba isn't going to respond to pressure anyway, so I don't see the point here.


I wanted to see whether you thought that I was pushing sandroba based on his first post or not.

Regardless of whether or not sandroba will react to having votes on him, I still think the best way to start off a game is to place votes early on 1-2 targets. If we're discussing players that have recently posted, I'm not really interested in joining you on VE. Would you be willing to support a Wave bandwagon? I find very few of his questions relevant thus far. I don't see what he is looking for.

Wave, would you like to explain your approach to the first few hours of the game?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 03:47 GMT
#274
On January 21 2014 12:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Wave has been alright so far IMO. He hasn't posted anything to make me suspicious of him, and he seems engaged enough in the thread compared to everyone else in the game. So I'm pretty neutral on him, and would not be willing to bandwagon him.

However, I do feel that VE is scummy for the reasons that you're suspicious of Wave:
Show nested quote +
I find very few of his questions relevant thus far.

Show nested quote +
I don't see what he is looking for.


Nothing VE has said has been relevant so far. There are no objectives in his gameplay beyond cracking "witty" 1-lined responses. VE's gameplay so far gives me the impression that he's more interested in irrelevant small-talk than finding a read, pursuing an objective, or even promoting discussion.

Hell, Isn't it strange for someone with 10 posts this early not to have said a single damn relevant thing?


These days it takes some people 50 posts before they are ready to get started.

However, I just reminded myself that I enjoy voting VE. Plus, you beat me to the punch on the obvious follow-up question to Wave so I've decided that I'm willing to work with you!


##Unvote
##Vote VisceraEyes
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 04:12 GMT
#287
On January 21 2014 13:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 21 2014 13:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm voting for Prome because he immediately asked you a question about me that applied to Wave equally, and then made up some nonsense reasoning as to why it applied to me but not Wave. That's not odd to you?


Not particularly. What's more odd to me is how unwilling you've been to pursue this scumread on Prome despite how active he's been in the thread the past few hours.

Like, you're entirely skirting around me trying to discuss this with you, while accusing me of not discussing it. Is anyone else seeing this?


I'm probably closer to a 2 on Prom than a 10 right now based on your reasoning.

Do you think Hapa is mafia for the way he is attacking you?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 04:29 GMT
#292
On January 21 2014 11:50 Promethelax wrote:
VE: no, everyone is suspicious because you guys had the chance to start without me but did not start. Hello posts are nothing and nothing was done. For like four hours.


You say that everyone is suspicious for not getting things rolling, yet later decide it's worth defending marv that he is willing to take a back seat role at the start.

Do you think VE is the type of player that engages in serious discussion from the start?

On January 21 2014 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think if he's town he's biased and it's bullshit to be so biased already, but whatever.


This seems like an overreaction to me. There is very little to get upset about this early on. Generally this tends to be a mafia trait, but I'm willing to reconsider since it's VE.

On January 21 2014 12:56 gonzaw wrote:
Skimmed fast and saw no Foo'
He's obvious scum.
Let's lynch him once I wake up....maybe


Agreed.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 13:28 GMT
#319
On January 21 2014 18:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 12:02 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 12:00 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:28 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
If we're talking meta, pressure won't mean anything to sandroba. He'll either play or he won't, and if he's town he'll probably find some scum. People like kita voting for him as a joke will probably not pressure him as much as you seem to think.


I'm not voting him as a joke. I think he is a great vote. We should lynch him today.


Why is he a great vote and/or lynch?

I really don't understand what your objective is here given a recent post of yours...

On January 21 2014 10:34 kitaman27 wrote:
...
Do you think I'm trying to paint sandroba in a bad light using my "scummy thought process" like you mentioned or do you think that it was a random vote with little thought?
...



I can't point out all the scummy things he posts if he hasn't posted yet. If you were to vote for him then maybe he will respond and I'd have something to give you. Sounds like a win-win to me!


Can we talk about something serious? What do you think of VE?

He's the topic du-jour.


I can't call VE scummy, else he will vote for me.

I KNOW YOUR SECRETS.

I'd rather talk about marv. He suggest that the all vanilla setup makes things difficult to start off rather than attempting to generate conversation.

I never randomly generate conversation at the start of any games, and I very rarely talk about setup. You and most other players in the game should know this. Why are you suggesting it as something suspicious?


Mostly a weak idea to see if anyone wanted to take it farther than it warranted. Nothing useful really came out of it, besides maybe a few unnecessary defense posts that could possibly be looked at post flip later on in the game.

Do you feel Hapa's attempts to generate conversation are town motivated or is he more concerned with personal appearance?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 14:04 GMT
#327
On January 21 2014 09:31 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 09:29 sandroba wrote:
I'm trying to figure that out too. My plan as of now is to wait for some scummer to give themselves away in their first post.


Not much of a plan if you're going to warn people about what you're looking for.

##Vote Sandroba

(Did you catch me?)


On January 21 2014 12:16 kitaman27 wrote:
If you start calling people scummy and vote for someone off their first post, people won't take you serious later on. I certainly wouldn't do something like that!


On January 21 2014 22:42 Promethelax wrote:
Kita (said "I don't call people scummy early because it makes people listen to me less later" which isn't true and so totally wired that it rings scummy since I cannot figure out what it gives a town Kita while it does provide some benefit to a scum Kita.)


So one of your strongest reads currently is based off a joke post?

gonzaw, do you think VE's response to early pressure was a scummy overreaction or simply a concerned townie trying to fight off a bad argument?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 14:50 GMT
#345
On January 21 2014 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 22:51 gonzaw wrote:
Im scared of kita since he seems to have that umreadable type of attitude when playing and pressuring. Doesnt help he gets into fluffy discussions and shit.

I really agree with this though

Still haven't quite got over kita being town in whatever game it was where he made some really large, terrible case on drazerk and pushed it repeatedly


You know you're good when marv has to go back 15 months to find a bad case in a game where I voted for 5 different scum, roleblocked a scum player 4 times, and shot a scum multiple times. It's ok though. Just because I'm using Luminaire on Lavos, doesn't mean your pointy sword is any less important

I believe in the past marv, you have been hesitant to vote Foolishness early on. Do you think he is jumping on an easy target or do you simply want an explanation?

Also, gotta make the rounds.

##Unvote
##Foolishness
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 15:10 GMT
#347
On January 21 2014 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
You believe incorrectly dear.

What do you think you or town are gaining by asking me that question about Fool?


In the champions game, Foolishness opened with a poor post, someone jumped on it and you reacted as follows:

"Foolish is from my site. I wouldn't read too much into that post yet. "

"He's a notoriously slow starter; if he doesn't pick up his analysis before the day ends then I'll be having a problem with him."

This game you have decided to read into his first post and put him on a shorter leash (which isn't necessarily a bad thing)

The reason I'm asking is to see if you've decided to take a different approach this game or if you think his first post in this game is a more serious concern than the previous game.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2014 15:56 GMT
#350
Seven pages over the first 17 hours is pretty weak. -_-

Since I don't believe we've crossed paths before HolyFlare, lets chat. I'll let you choose the topic.
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