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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 24 2013 02:52 GMT
#30
Damn it so many friggin interesting games happening while I can't play.
I feel like I should be WaveofShadowing somebody lololol
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 24 2013 06:34 GMT
#46
Oh wow game starts Jan 20th?
/shadow if people will have me then. Same boat as fubadooba though---if I'm too 'experienced' give the spot to someone else.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 24 2013 15:16 GMT
#55
May I ask why, JAT?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 24 2013 23:25 GMT
#66
On December 25 2013 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
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On December 25 2013 01:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I agree with your sentiment that the best way to improve is to get smashed by better players and adjust your play upwards. However, I've never had the opportunity to really discuss game play with the better players on this forum, and while I've read a lot of these players, it's completely different to get their insight as they are playing.

Seeing as I've taken a couple 1-year breaks in between games, and I can only remember a couple games long past in which I was actually happy with my play, I really hope I get the opportunity to have one of these guys learn me some mafia.

See, that's why I would like to shadow one of those guys. Playing the following game is a whole different story.
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On December 25 2013 01:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
JAT, I don't think there's a "best way" to learn. Everyone has different personality traits. Perhaps for you, it works best to drop yourself into the deep. Others might find playing against people of their own level more motivating, and get the confidence from it that they need to analyze the big fish too. Furthermore, the idea isn't that you copy the player's entire gameplan, but to learn from it and apply a few things you have learned in the following game. Either way, it's an experiment. If it works out, great. If not, we'll still have had a great invitational and "novice" game, and we can use the lessons we learned for a sequel.

Obviously people are different. That's why I said "at least for me". I didn't critisize anyone of a different opinion and I didn't say this project isn't a good idea but the things I said are the reasons why I personally won't join this although I would like to shadow a good player. WoS asked why and I answered.

I was about to say that I'm surprised you think that way considering many of the people who want to shadow aren't exactly inexperienced or newbie players and are quite skilled in their own right, and then I looked at the list again and realized that a great deal of that category of players isn't being allowed to shadow lol.

Maybe at some point down the road we could do this with an 'intermediate' level as well?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 28 2013 22:28 GMT
#93
I will replace into the main game if you'll have me. (You can Wisdom of the Crowds the current players if you want or something.) Otherwise I'm fine to replace shadows.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 29 2013 22:24 GMT
#104
On December 30 2013 07:18 jaybrundage wrote:
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On December 30 2013 06:12 Promethelax wrote:
I haven't felt like I could claim to be the weakest player on a player list in forever. In this game I'm close to it. Feels good.

So the question is... Who's the weakest player on the list

That's a very interesting question. Are we allowed to talk about that in the thread? (I know if I end up replacing somebody it'll be me lololol)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 02:10:58
January 13 2014 01:23 GMT
#143
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 19 2014 02:44 GMT
#172
Those newbies from the recent game should get in on this....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 19 2014 04:09 GMT
#176
Since I revoked my ban from nyx, I'll revoke my ban on you too.
(Just don't do that again )
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 20 2014 02:26 GMT
#184
Not me, I need all my baby oil.
For my baby.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 20 2014 16:07 GMT
#194
On January 21 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
This better be actually rng'd :x

I can't think of a game I've ever played that wasn't RNGed...
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 20 2014 16:24 GMT
#197
On January 21 2014 01:14 kitaman27 wrote:
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On January 21 2014 01:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 21 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
This better be actually rng'd :x

I can't think of a game I've ever played that wasn't RNGed...


Don't mind the fact that they are RNG'd multiple times until they get the outcome that they want.

Don't lie to me kita.
It's bad enough I'm going to have to deal with you doing that once the game starts.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 20 2014 23:14 GMT
#208
Ain't nobody gentle here.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 21 2014 01:39 GMT
#227
Welp, gonna go with my usual opener.
I think the only difference here is for the first time I'm actually relieved to roll town. I'd be pretty terrified to go up against this town as scum.

One of these days I will have another scumgame; it seems that day is not today.

Holy! Where you at? I've never played a non-voice game with you before. Let's do something.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 21 2014 01:51 GMT
#231
On January 21 2014 10:46 kitaman27 wrote:
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On January 21 2014 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Welp, gonna go with my usual opener.
I think the only difference here is for the first time I'm actually relieved to roll town. I'd be pretty terrified to go up against this town as scum.


I was kinda hoping to role mafia with the all vanilla setup. They probably have the advantage regardless of who is playing.

Wanna vote sandroba with me? He may or may not be scummy.

lol I'm really hoping you're not scum kita.
Nah no reason to vote sandroba yet. Not only is there basically nothing to vote him for, I've seen what he's capable of as the game progresses (from PYP) and if he is town and plays this game anything like that, he'll start slow and then start bringing the pain to scum.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 21 2014 02:21 GMT
#236
As far as I can tell, he doesn't respond to pressure on himself this early so it wouldn't matter.
I only offered that as an aside anyway, my main reason for not wanting to vote him is because I literally don't see one.

Hapa, do you see yourself getting shot N1 in this game?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 21 2014 02:41 GMT
#247
On January 21 2014 11:35 Promethelax wrote:
Okay broskis, this is just silly. We know how to start a game and it isn't this Mafia Scum inspired baseless lynches shall we discuss policy? Why yes we shall because you all will actually have to commit to something.

Since we aren't the run of the mill hokey dory TL types I think its time we set a few ground rules: there should be no discussion of policy lynching lurkers. We simply lynch them. If everyone is good enough to be shadowed everyone is good enough to play the game and we cannot tolerate lurkers.

It is my hope that this particular policy doesn't come into play since, obviously, we are the best that TL has so we should play the best as well and lurking simply isn't the best. We are all good enough to carry a town and I would like us all to be that good this game. Play your hearts out gentlemen.

I would also like a non-aggression pact. That is we all agree to play nice since I'd rather like to be good role models for our newbies.

And yes, I know I'm scummy for posting this, does someone want to come out and say it so that I can defend myself and we can move on with this game and make actual cases on each other and find scum.

Unlike WoS I was excited to roll scum in this game, I figured I'd have an excuse to be steamrolled but if I did a good job it would be a huge accomplishment but no, I'm town, I have to figure things out. I would much rather lie to you all but fuck me, I don't get to lie to you. I gotta work for my money.

So get it together boys, we are policy lynching lurkers, we aren't going to be mean to each other and we are going to catch scum. And we'll start with Hapa making a case on me, why? Because its tradition is why.

I don't think lurkers will be an issue in this game.
I'm really confused by your opener though...you want to discuss policy and then you state right after that you don't want to discuss it? Like...discussion of policy on its own isn't scummy imo but why did you go about it so awkwardly?

I do agree with the non-aggression thing, but no offense---I'd imagine you'd have to be one of the primary people to agree with that (and it seems as though you have?)

Now onto more important details: why specifically Hapa? Do you two have a history?
Is he going to want to make a case on you at all, never mind find something specific in this post of yours in order to make one?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 21 2014 02:50 GMT
#251
On January 21 2014 11:47 Promethelax wrote:
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On January 21 2014 11:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Or rather, it is policy, but certainly not discussion.


You got so close to making that case on me. So close. And yet so far.

It is policy and we could discuss it, I just assume no one will disagree with it so there is no discussion which will stem from it. The discussion comes from me posting things which you can call me town on or base a case on. That is what generates discussion, not policy we all agree on.

Since you are, so far, the only person interrogating people on the shit they post I'm choosing to believe you are town for the moment. Since I am town that means you and I shall discuss other people. In this case VE and this post:
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On January 21 2014 11:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
If we're talking meta, pressure won't mean anything to sandroba. He'll either play or he won't, and if he's town he'll probably find some scum. People like kita voting for him as a joke will probably not pressure him as much as you seem to think.

You see VE knows how to say things. But this post doesn't say things. This post, when the fluff is removed says that we should let Sandroba do his own thing because no matter what he'll do his own thing and that Sandroba may or may not catch scum. It shows such a lack of curiosity that I am disturbed.

Do you, Hapa, agree? y/n? Will you go on a date with me y/n?

O I C
It's gonna be one of these games.

And of course never mind that I said the exact same thing VE did before he said it.

Prome I feel rejected.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 21 2014 02:50 GMT
#252
Aaaand ninjad.
Get out of my head VE

Though I must admit two of these this early bodes pretty well for us, does it not?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 21 2014 03:06 GMT
#264
On January 21 2014 12:02 kitaman27 wrote:
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On January 21 2014 12:00 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:28 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 21 2014 11:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
If we're talking meta, pressure won't mean anything to sandroba. He'll either play or he won't, and if he's town he'll probably find some scum. People like kita voting for him as a joke will probably not pressure him as much as you seem to think.


I'm not voting him as a joke. I think he is a great vote. We should lynch him today.


Why is he a great vote and/or lynch?

I really don't understand what your objective is here given a recent post of yours...

On January 21 2014 10:34 kitaman27 wrote:
...
Do you think I'm trying to paint sandroba in a bad light using my "scummy thought process" like you mentioned or do you think that it was a random vote with little thought?
...



I can't point out all the scummy things he posts if he hasn't posted yet. If you were to vote for him then maybe he will respond and I'd have something to give you. Sounds like a win-win to me!


Can we talk about something serious? What do you think of VE?

He's the topic du-jour.


I can't call VE scummy, else he will vote for me.

I KNOW YOUR SECRETS.

I'd rather talk about marv. He suggest that the all vanilla setup makes things difficult to start off rather than attempting to generate conversation.

I'm kind of interested to see a game in which marv is not likely to take over.

On January 21 2014 11:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 11:47 Promethelax wrote:
...
Since I am town that means you and I shall discuss other people. In this case VE and this post:
On January 21 2014 11:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
If we're talking meta, pressure won't mean anything to sandroba. He'll either play or he won't, and if he's town he'll probably find some scum. People like kita voting for him as a joke will probably not pressure him as much as you seem to think.

You see VE knows how to say things. But this post doesn't say things. This post, when the fluff is removed says that we should let Sandroba do his own thing because no matter what he'll do his own thing and that Sandroba may or may not catch scum. It shows such a lack of curiosity that I am disturbed.

Do you, Hapa, agree? y/n?


Yeah I agree. I've been put off by VE's posting so far, mostly because he's been one of the more active people in the thread and hasn't managed to post anything substantive.

It's reminiscent of my last few voice mafia games with him, where he's willing to talk a lot about irrelevant things at length, while ignoring attempts at any meaningful discussion.

My initial vote on him was random, but I like where it's parked right now.

Show nested quote +
Will you go on a date with me y/n?


What's your favorite restaurant? I'll make the reservations <3

I'm fine with VE for now for reasons stated earlier.
What does bother me a little Hapa (and I'll admit, bothers me every time this is brought up by anyone in any game) is your comparison of VE's play to voice mafia games.
There is very little if any indication at all that you can base people's play in forum games on how they play on TS. Par example (though not the only one), in voice mafia I am supremely confident, can sniff out scum with just a few words from them, and play mafia really damn well. Would you say that describes my forum mafia play?

Essentially text and forum-based games are way too different to make proper comparisons in my opinion, and I would really think that you'd be aware of that.
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