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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
September 09 2006 02:25 GMT
#1
There hasn't been a discussion on bloodbath in a long while so I thought I'd bring one back up. I know theres some good players on tl.net that play this map. I wanted to see what are some of the builds you guys use for this map.
TvZ - I use bbs 9 rax 9 rax 9 depot into quick m&m.
TvP - Same bbs but range first instead of stim.
TvT - 8 rax / 9 rax 9 depot many people 6 rax so you gotta scout early.

PvT - 9/10 zea rush into cannon rush but if you can tell there going to stop it I just get fast goon range and power 2 gate goon into dt or just mass goon.
PvP - 10/12 3 gate hard zea.
PvZ - 10/11 zea rush into fast ups tech to templar archives.

ZvP - 9 pool into fast speed or just sunk turtle. Get the close minerals with hatches and just mass hydra/ling.
ZvT - 12 pool 12 hat quick ass lurkers.
ZvZ - 9 pool or 12 pool into mass ling muta if necessary.

These are just the strategys I usually use for each mu I wanted to see what other people think about them and what they do.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
September 09 2006 02:51 GMT
#2
Also if anyone wants to challenge me just pm me
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fig_newbie
Profile Joined March 2006
749 Posts
September 09 2006 02:54 GMT
#3
4 pool shoudl work ... ?
k?
roadrunner_sc
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 02:59:14
September 09 2006 02:56 GMT
#4
On September 09 2006 11:54 fig_newbie wrote:
4 pool shoudl work ... ?


And it does, most cases.


...Practicing ur micro? Why not stick to SinCultP? Much better map.
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Kaotu
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States986 Posts
September 09 2006 02:57 GMT
#5
You can't bring up blood bath without suggesting a tournament. I'll come back to BW for the night if one is set up.

TvZ -> 8 rax and then it branches depending on what they do. Scout early because you need to know if they're 4 pooling asap. It's an easy game after that usually...
TvP -> So many options. You can get away with depot rax if you want to... I'll open with bsb unless I know my opponent though
TvT -> Hmm if you 8 rax and they depot rax then you're screwed generally. This turns into a get up bunker, get a tank in the middle race

P mu's - meh you can play all of these by feeling imo

ZvZ -> 9 pool or 7 pool if you happen to scout a 4 pool. You should beat 12 pool every game if you 9 pool on this map...
ZvT -> I like 9 pool and stay on gas lurker asap. Have to hope he doesn't tech quick though, just keep putting on pressure but never let your lings die :o Hard mu
ZvP -> Hmm w/e you feel like just dont get hardcored
rabies
Profile Joined August 2006
45 Posts
September 09 2006 02:57 GMT
#6
5 pool - gg
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
September 09 2006 03:09 GMT
#7
Yea I would very much like to have have tourney but someone would have to set it up.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
September 09 2006 03:10 GMT
#8
5 > 4 pool first off and vs good players you will do very little damage and just come out far behind.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2720 Posts
September 09 2006 03:16 GMT
#9
I play random on blood bath.

TvZ - 8rax 9 depot, 11rax or 11bunker
TvP -8/9rax 9depot 11bunker or 11rax/ sometimes the opposite start with 8depot/10rax/11bunker
TvT - my secret killer strat

With P (usually vs random or vs zerg)
I often 9/10, or even 8/9 in order to survive a rush

PvT 10/12 is absolutely ok and everything faster is retared in my opinion
PvP 9/10 or 10/12
PvZ - fast 2zealots, rarely fast cannons (sucks!)

ZvP 5pool into hydras micro action, 9pool speed, 9pool 3hat
ZvT 8pool 3hat, 9pool speed
ZvZ 8pool with hydras most of the time
I have returned
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
September 09 2006 03:31 GMT
#10
On September 09 2006 12:10 TheGreatOne wrote:
5 > 4 pool first off and vs good players you will do very little damage and just come out far behind.


4 pool is faster than 5 pool by like 2 seconds, which matters in an all-in strat. In bloodbath, most people do scout so yeah 4 pool sucks, especially because everyone knows something like 4 pool is very viable in bloodbath.
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 03:36:30
September 09 2006 03:35 GMT
#11
scouting on blood bath depends on style and scouting a 4pool wont help you anyway. you need to prepare for it.

I usually go rax->depot->bunker TvZ and scout after making the depot
In PvZ I dont scout at all, because every second of mining is important so your 9/10 is the fastest possible.
In ZvZ scouting is retarded too, just 7-8 pool, it should stop a 4pool...

you need to scout if your opponent goes random, but for example in a PvP I scout late too, because I prefer to have nice economy (I usually play rPvP..)
I have returned
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
September 09 2006 03:35 GMT
#12
4 pool won't work in zvz but other then that it's a good choice if you are really good at the kind of battle a 4 pool would mean
lawl mart
Profile Joined April 2006
United States1289 Posts
September 09 2006 03:37 GMT
#13
14cc
14cc... whats next? women voting?
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
September 09 2006 03:39 GMT
#14
On September 09 2006 11:54 fig_newbie wrote:
4 pool shoudl work ... ?

maybe against a toss. most terrans bsb or bbs so they will have enough rines and a bunker if necessary.
Kaotu
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States986 Posts
September 09 2006 03:48 GMT
#15
tournament tournament tournament
lets do it maybe in 50 minutes (around 1:30 TLnet time)

any objections?
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
September 09 2006 04:00 GMT
#16
On September 09 2006 12:31 tKd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 12:10 TheGreatOne wrote:
5 > 4 pool first off and vs good players you will do very little damage and just come out far behind.


4 pool is faster than 5 pool by like 2 seconds, which matters in an all-in strat. In bloodbath, most people do scout so yeah 4 pool sucks, especially because everyone knows something like 4 pool is very viable in bloodbath.


Its actually only like 1 second faster which isnt much of a difference for anything + 5 pool gives you 2 extra drones which is a definite upperhand to 4 pool.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
September 09 2006 04:03 GMT
#17
cannons ftw the only place they cant go is the center :D
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skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
September 09 2006 04:11 GMT
#18
On September 09 2006 12:31 tKd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 12:10 TheGreatOne wrote:
5 > 4 pool first off and vs good players you will do very little damage and just come out far behind.


4 pool is faster than 5 pool by like 2 seconds, which matters in an all-in strat. In bloodbath, most people do scout so yeah 4 pool sucks, especially because everyone knows something like 4 pool is very viable in bloodbath.


Someone posted the times some time ago, and if irc the difference between 4 and 5 poll wasnt more than 1 sec.
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 04:16:14
September 09 2006 04:15 GMT
#19
On September 09 2006 12:37 lawl mart wrote:
14cc


that gets owned by the gosu 1 pool
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MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
September 09 2006 04:20 GMT
#20
just pick terran and send 10 scvs when u get them and rape all their shit and win
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