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There hasn't been a discussion on bloodbath in a long while so I thought I'd bring one back up. I know theres some good players on tl.net that play this map. I wanted to see what are some of the builds you guys use for this map. TvZ - I use bbs 9 rax 9 rax 9 depot into quick m&m. TvP - Same bbs but range first instead of stim. TvT - 8 rax / 9 rax 9 depot many people 6 rax so you gotta scout early.
PvT - 9/10 zea rush into cannon rush but if you can tell there going to stop it I just get fast goon range and power 2 gate goon into dt or just mass goon. PvP - 10/12 3 gate hard zea. PvZ - 10/11 zea rush into fast ups tech to templar archives.
ZvP - 9 pool into fast speed or just sunk turtle. Get the close minerals with hatches and just mass hydra/ling. ZvT - 12 pool 12 hat quick ass lurkers. ZvZ - 9 pool or 12 pool into mass ling muta if necessary.
These are just the strategys I usually use for each mu I wanted to see what other people think about them and what they do.
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Also if anyone wants to challenge me just pm me
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On September 09 2006 11:54 fig_newbie wrote: 4 pool shoudl work ... ?
And it does, most cases.
...Practicing ur micro? Why not stick to SinCultP? Much better map.
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You can't bring up blood bath without suggesting a tournament. I'll come back to BW for the night if one is set up.
TvZ -> 8 rax and then it branches depending on what they do. Scout early because you need to know if they're 4 pooling asap. It's an easy game after that usually... TvP -> So many options. You can get away with depot rax if you want to... I'll open with bsb unless I know my opponent though TvT -> Hmm if you 8 rax and they depot rax then you're screwed generally. This turns into a get up bunker, get a tank in the middle race
P mu's - meh you can play all of these by feeling imo
ZvZ -> 9 pool or 7 pool if you happen to scout a 4 pool. You should beat 12 pool every game if you 9 pool on this map... ZvT -> I like 9 pool and stay on gas lurker asap. Have to hope he doesn't tech quick though, just keep putting on pressure but never let your lings die :o Hard mu ZvP -> Hmm w/e you feel like just dont get hardcored
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Yea I would very much like to have have tourney but someone would have to set it up.
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5 > 4 pool first off and vs good players you will do very little damage and just come out far behind.
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I play random on blood bath.
TvZ - 8rax 9 depot, 11rax or 11bunker TvP -8/9rax 9depot 11bunker or 11rax/ sometimes the opposite start with 8depot/10rax/11bunker TvT - my secret killer strat
With P (usually vs random or vs zerg) I often 9/10, or even 8/9 in order to survive a rush
PvT 10/12 is absolutely ok and everything faster is retared in my opinion PvP 9/10 or 10/12 PvZ - fast 2zealots, rarely fast cannons (sucks!)
ZvP 5pool into hydras micro action, 9pool speed, 9pool 3hat ZvT 8pool 3hat, 9pool speed ZvZ 8pool with hydras most of the time
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On September 09 2006 12:10 TheGreatOne wrote: 5 > 4 pool first off and vs good players you will do very little damage and just come out far behind.
4 pool is faster than 5 pool by like 2 seconds, which matters in an all-in strat. In bloodbath, most people do scout so yeah 4 pool sucks, especially because everyone knows something like 4 pool is very viable in bloodbath.
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scouting on blood bath depends on style and scouting a 4pool wont help you anyway. you need to prepare for it.
I usually go rax->depot->bunker TvZ and scout after making the depot In PvZ I dont scout at all, because every second of mining is important so your 9/10 is the fastest possible. In ZvZ scouting is retarded too, just 7-8 pool, it should stop a 4pool...
you need to scout if your opponent goes random, but for example in a PvP I scout late too, because I prefer to have nice economy (I usually play rPvP..)
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4 pool won't work in zvz but other then that it's a good choice if you are really good at the kind of battle a 4 pool would mean
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On September 09 2006 11:54 fig_newbie wrote: 4 pool shoudl work ... ? maybe against a toss. most terrans bsb or bbs so they will have enough rines and a bunker if necessary.
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tournament tournament tournament lets do it maybe in 50 minutes (around 1:30 TLnet time)
any objections?
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On September 09 2006 12:31 tKd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2006 12:10 TheGreatOne wrote: 5 > 4 pool first off and vs good players you will do very little damage and just come out far behind. 4 pool is faster than 5 pool by like 2 seconds, which matters in an all-in strat. In bloodbath, most people do scout so yeah 4 pool sucks, especially because everyone knows something like 4 pool is very viable in bloodbath.
Its actually only like 1 second faster which isnt much of a difference for anything + 5 pool gives you 2 extra drones which is a definite upperhand to 4 pool.
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cannons ftw the only place they cant go is the center :D
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On September 09 2006 12:31 tKd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2006 12:10 TheGreatOne wrote: 5 > 4 pool first off and vs good players you will do very little damage and just come out far behind. 4 pool is faster than 5 pool by like 2 seconds, which matters in an all-in strat. In bloodbath, most people do scout so yeah 4 pool sucks, especially because everyone knows something like 4 pool is very viable in bloodbath.
Someone posted the times some time ago, and if irc the difference between 4 and 5 poll wasnt more than 1 sec.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On September 09 2006 12:37 lawl mart wrote: 14cc
that gets owned by the gosu 1 pool
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
just pick terran and send 10 scvs when u get them and rape all their shit and win
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