Hello everyone, it's nice to be back. I've made a list of heroes that are pretty useless in the hands of town and pretty strong in the hands of mafia:
Amumu
Evelynn
Graves
Morgana
Nocturne
Shako
Talon
Tryndamere
Yorick

Out of these the 3 I want to face the least are Yorick, because hiding alignment is too powerful and can cause a lot of confusion; Graves because eliminating alignment reversal can make a red check reliable; Tryndamere because of possibility of mass killing.
What do you guys think about it?

sandroba

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November 30 2013 04:03 GMT

#254

Amumu is pretty powerful too in the hands of scum, possibly we should consider him instead of tryndamere. It's hard to know tryn's threat level without a noition of damage/hp.

sandroba

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November 30 2013 04:03 GMT

#255

I've grown fond of you already odin : )

sandroba

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November 30 2013 04:10 GMT

#257

Yo rean I won't be able to post saturday and most of sunday, can I trust you to organize shit to make sure we get the 3 top threats agreed upon and banned instead of each of us voting randomly and ending up with pretty inefficient bans?

sandroba

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November 30 2013 04:11 GMT

#260

##Ban: Yorick

sandroba

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November 30 2013 04:16 GMT

#261

And btw, I think graves is a pretty efficient ban too. Sure there are a few heroes that hide scum's alignment but graves is unique because as far as i can tell he is the only hero that can make a townie return red to a check, on top of hiding scum's alignment. If he is out of the game a red check means scum for certain.

sandroba

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November 30 2013 12:04 GMT

#407

I'm leaving town right now so I can't post till sunday night. I sent in my numbers already and won't be here to coordinate with no pick assignment plan you guys come up with.
That being said, I really think Talon is a wayn weaker role than many of the others on my list. If imunity to checks is a concern, roles like Morgana/Shako should be banned with way higher priority than it, because they are way more flexible and powerful. However I think roles like Amumu/yorick/graves/tryn can cause way more problems and are more difficult to get around. Nocturne is less problematic because it's a one time use and can still be used to get some sort of info, ideally in the end game if the other info roles get outted and killed. I could be a nice role to leave open and pehaps deny (have them take a risk of getting vanilla if they want to take it) to the mafia and still get something out of it.
Anyway I gotta go cya on sunday.

sandroba

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December 01 2013 22:38 GMT

#792

I actually don't like assigning roles in this game, they seem really balanced and half the info from them is missing. I think it will be more damaging then helpful. Don't like the public kassadin idea either, he should only claim when he has something useful to say. And finally don't like that you assigned heimmer to mig. He posted almost nothing so far (iirc that's his typical behavior as scum) and that role is untrackable and dangerous. I'd much prefer if he has to take a risk of getting vt if he wants to pick it.

sandroba

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December 01 2013 22:40 GMT

#794

Is KP roleblockable this game?

sandroba

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December 01 2013 22:48 GMT

#797

Hmm I actually can see a benefit to assigning viktor tryn blitz and singed. Those are publicly trackable. The others I don't see a point. I.E. ok mig has heimmer, how do we know who or if he has used his power at all?

sandroba

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December 01 2013 22:50 GMT

#798

Sorry man, just got here and skimmed the thread.

sandroba

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December 01 2013 23:04 GMT

#804

Also @rean you made a commitement, but pretty much stepped out of the headlights, any reason for that?

sandroba

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December 01 2013 23:32 GMT

#815

Let me think aloud here for a second. What happens if we all claim which roles we are taking, so it ensures maximum amount of roles for town. That way even mafia has to claim and we all claim what we did (after resolution) for the night as well. That would greatly simplify the game and force mafia to make mistakes with their claims. The trade off is that mafia is going to get what they want and know where the roles are, but with so many different protective roles and unknown abilities pehaps it is a good trade off. A town composed of 100% blues is a monster.

sandroba

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December 01 2013 23:38 GMT

#817

Well I'm up for it, what do people above me think?

sandroba

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December 02 2013 00:09 GMT

#842

Well given the positive feedback so far, I believe it is possible to get it going if enough people show up.

sandroba

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December 02 2013 01:04 GMT

#890

I'll take fiora. People bellow don't bother and people above me pls let me know if you are taking it so I can change.

sandroba

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December 02 2013 13:43 GMT

#1277

I really like bum's case. The other cases on gtrs and geript look like trash to me. I also don't like austin and lsb. Don't like that rean fade off since the early game, was around at the deadline but made no comments on plans.
I'll be voting JC and recommend everyone takes a good look on Bum's case which is the best thing we have going so far.

sandroba

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December 02 2013 13:53 GMT

#1281

@marv I believe that his point is that RED checks are very likely to be precise and I do agree. For that not to be true mafia has to have randomly gotten a framer with their second abilities and they have to guess correctly which townie is going to be checked. Green checks however should not be trusted blindly.