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On November 30 2013 12:19 supersoft wrote: My draftnumbers will be 1 and 30. I want a hero with KP... Or some kind of protection lol. I dare you to take my numbers. If no other townie picks my numbers, i'll either be firstpick, or if some scummer "sacrifices" himself on my numbers, we will both be lastpick. Can we somehow organize this? I mean next one could be Mig with 2 and 30, then BC 3 and 30, then sandroba 4 and 30 etc. Does that make sense? Technically I suppose you could, numbers are made public I believe. But good luck getting people to agree it. ##Vote: Graves His ability serves no purpose to town at all. Is it encouraged to roleplay as the player we were assigned? | ||
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On November 30 2013 12:40 Mid or Feed wrote: Show nested quote + On November 30 2013 12:26 Rean wrote: On November 30 2013 12:19 supersoft wrote: My draftnumbers will be 1 and 30. I want a hero with KP... Or some kind of protection lol. I dare you to take my numbers. If no other townie picks my numbers, i'll either be firstpick, or if some scummer "sacrifices" himself on my numbers, we will both be lastpick. Can we somehow organize this? I mean next one could be Mig with 2 and 30, then BC 3 and 30, then sandroba 4 and 30 etc. Does that make sense? Technically I suppose you could, numbers are made public I believe. But good luck getting people to agree it. ##Vote: Graves His ability serves no purpose to town at all. Is it encouraged to roleplay as the player we were assigned? Of course! In that case, I'd like to declare myself as the best player in the game and you all suck. | ||
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On November 30 2013 12:48 OdinOfPergo wrote: I actually don't think we should ban champs like Talon. Yes they might be nice for mafia early on in the game by denying early checks... But really... if you're playing a scum agenda... you're going to get busted for it. The same way a Godfather gets busted for it. It's 100% the same principle. You're aware that there's no way for us to known that those champs would be picked so we can't just bust them for it? | ||
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On November 30 2013 12:52 geript wrote: Alright guys... Time to raise me up. I'm definitely going to carry our team. Bans really don't matter whatsoever and I couldn't care less for them. Too bad so many of you are terrible in comparison to how teh awezome bombz I am. ##vote no bans You're trash compared to me. | ||
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On November 30 2013 12:58 OdinOfPergo wrote: Show nested quote + On November 30 2013 12:51 Rean wrote: On November 30 2013 12:48 OdinOfPergo wrote: I actually don't think we should ban champs like Talon. Yes they might be nice for mafia early on in the game by denying early checks... But really... if you're playing a scum agenda... you're going to get busted for it. The same way a Godfather gets busted for it. It's 100% the same principle. You're aware that there's no way for us to known that those champs would be picked so we can't just bust them for it? Yes. But think of a un-themed game. You are not notified that a God father, Roleblocker, etc. is in the game... However you come to realize the fact before all to long usually ye? I mean I could be wrong but my gut instinct is to ban champs like Ahri, Amumu, Blitz, etc. Champs that could change the order that towns actions hit. Champs that could reduce the # of votes (IE specifically Amumu) on a scum vs town Lynch wagon could potentially be catastrophic. Feel free to discuss. We do have 23 hours.. I get your point yeah, but it's the choice between roles that could be useful for both town and scum and roles that only benefit scum here since we only get three bans, so it seems to me it's better to eliminate champs that will never be useful for town (IMO, Graves + Talon + Yorick) | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:05 Rean wrote: Show nested quote + On November 30 2013 12:58 OdinOfPergo wrote: On November 30 2013 12:51 Rean wrote: On November 30 2013 12:48 OdinOfPergo wrote: I actually don't think we should ban champs like Talon. Yes they might be nice for mafia early on in the game by denying early checks... But really... if you're playing a scum agenda... you're going to get busted for it. The same way a Godfather gets busted for it. It's 100% the same principle. You're aware that there's no way for us to known that those champs would be picked so we can't just bust them for it? Yes. But think of a un-themed game. You are not notified that a God father, Roleblocker, etc. is in the game... However you come to realize the fact before all to long usually ye? I mean I could be wrong but my gut instinct is to ban champs like Ahri, Amumu, Blitz, etc. Champs that could change the order that towns actions hit. Champs that could reduce the # of votes (IE specifically Amumu) on a scum vs town Lynch wagon could potentially be catastrophic. Feel free to discuss. We do have 23 hours.. I get your point yeah, but it's the choice between roles that could be useful for both town and scum and roles that only benefit scum here since we only get three bans, so it seems to me it's better to eliminate champs that will never be useful for town (IMO, Graves + Talon + Yorick) Add Amumu to that list aswell, will almost never be good for town. | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:10 sandroba wrote: Yo rean I won't be able to post saturday and most of sunday, can I trust you to organize shit to make sure we get the 3 top threats agreed upon and banned instead of each of us voting randomly and ending up with pretty inefficient bans? I got this, dw. I'm good at yelling at people until they do as I say. I like yelling at people until they do as I say. | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:23 ticklishmusic wrote: Show nested quote + On November 30 2013 13:19 austinmcc wrote: (Remember, the abilities listed here are roughly half of what each Champion is capable of!) I took this to mean that not ALL champion abilities are known.So I think we're safe banning out abilities that are ALWAYS anti-town, but we can't rely on banning out a certain thing meaning that it cannot exist. Well that kind of stinks, how do we ban based on half info >_> We ban based on the info we have because it's all we can do. | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:16 sandroba wrote: And btw, I think graves is a pretty efficient ban too. Sure there are a few heroes that hide scum's alignment but graves is unique because as far as i can tell he is the only hero that can make a townie return red to a check, on top of hiding scum's alignment. If he is out of the game a red check means scum for certain. In a game like this with hidden abilities and so many different roles checks are very, very unreliable. Eliminating Graves in this case won't change it that much, but it's a good start. Although, thinking about it, maybe Amumu is a better vote than Graves due to how unreliable checks will be in general. | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:56 geript wrote: Why are you just mindlessly echoing what Sandroba's saying? Why are whichever bans we make if any important? Oh gosh, I don't know why, maybe because some champs are more useful in the hands of mafia than others? Stop asking stupid questions. | ||
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On November 30 2013 14:48 JonnyLaw wrote: Rereading abilities I think Karthus should be ban priority. That's a huge blow to us if karthus channels an ult on strong town players. Similarly to others, it's nasty but can still be used in a town way. Champs like Yorick/Amumu/Talon/Graves are scarier IMO. Also, ##Unvote ##Vote: Yorick When thinking about it a little more, he's more dangerous to town than Graves is. | ||
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On December 01 2013 05:25 geript wrote: @Rayn. Graves is a bad ban choice. Scum banning cops will be irrelevant of whether Graves will be available. At best, Graves is a role which a low draft scum may pick up because town are highly unlikely to take it. That's not worth a ban. Banning a powerful KP ability to deny it from scum is better. If we don't ban Graves all investigations might aswell be useless because they could just be framed. KP roles are not good in the hands of scum either but there's more important bans to be made (Graves/Yorick) | ||
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On December 01 2013 12:15 Risen wrote: EBQOP: Went with 15,15 So is it 5 or 15? | ||
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On December 02 2013 13:06 OdinOfPergo wrote: I'm a caster creep. I have 850 hp. I can do 50 dmg to a character of my chosing per night. | ||
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