On January 06 2014 07:29 Balla24 wrote:
Who's gonna help me create a tough environment for mafia to hide in & help me lynch some mafia? If so, how do you suggest we proceed in day 1?

My top priorities are

- to start the game at a very high pace, to make sure that lurking is not only discouraged but also easy to spot and call out.
- immediately start some conversation by having some arguments (this is where its a bit tricky), we need people to fos right away when they feel off about somebody so that we can start reading each other.

Sounds like overeager towncred grabbing scum play to me.

##Vote: Balla24

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 05 2014 22:59 GMT

#253

On January 06 2014 07:55 Balla24 wrote:
You must of misunderstood me... "my goals of catching scum" not specifically my OWN priorities. I'm fine with others having their own priorities, but overall this game is about catching scum.

Another point, i'm not active in lynching lurkers, that's not what he said and its not what I said. My goal is to create an environment where it's HARD to survive as a lurker, that is, a very active game where the lurker #s are down very very low and are easy to single out. If it comes to the point where i have to lynch a lurker because there's no better lynch I will but that is not my priority.

I was mid drafting a post very similar to your second paragraph but the NFL playoffs can be distracting.

Anti lurking environment is great, randomly policy lynching lurkers is not.

However a policy debate is also highly distracting. So lets get past that and concentrate on finding dem sucummers.

Ps. I never mess around!

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 05 2014 23:14 GMT

#261

On January 06 2014 08:13 onlywonderboy wrote:

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Are policy debates generally considered to be distracting? I find analyzing people's opinions on policy and trying to find scum based on that more productive than just lynching lurkers.

I guess it depends on the specific issue. Fair point sir

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 05 2014 23:17 GMT

#263

On January 06 2014 08:16 sidesprang wrote:
Oh, Balla not Bella, sorry. And I got mad cause people wrote my name wrong last game :O

Anyhow, regarding the lurker situation, I will +1 Balla's idea. As long as we get everyone to contribute in some way it will make the game so much easier.

But for my experience lurkers are not more mafia than town, my last game two lurkers got modkilled day 3 and they were both town, so we should push them to contribute and not blindly lynch them because of it. If we get to the end of day1 and we have no strong scumreads I can support a lurkerlynch just because that could be the best option. But untill then I won't be talking about lynching lurkers.

Could not agree more with the entirety of this post

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 05 2014 23:42 GMT

#266

Well we only have posts from 6 people of 13. So we shall see what happens.

Of the remaining 7 everyone should be well aware that remaining inactive looks very scummy. Its a 48 hour day cycle so there is plenty of time.

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 05 2014 23:47 GMT

#267

My reads on the initial are:

Balla24 is towny as hell assuming continuation of current activity levels (hence ##Unvote

onlywonderboy: Leaning town unless his initial post is some next level scum play

TheChyz: Strangly defensive but that doesnt have to mean scum, probably most questionable so far

sidesprang: While I totally agreed with his post it is somewhat meaningless policy in my opinion (very straightforward post as scum) hence why i find policy debates distracting

Asuna: No real read we'll see how activity / posting patterns continue

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 05 2014 23:53 GMT

#268

Although lets be honest who cares what my opinions are, you guys don't need reads on me. Share your opinions so people can get reads on each other or look scummy as fuck hiding them.

As confirmed town I feel like I have far more use throwing my vote around somewhat trollishly than sharing my true opinions until I have something more concrete:

##Vote: TheChyz

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 06 2014 00:11 GMT

#271

Going to watch this 4th quarter then hit the hay.

See you guys on the other side, happy scum hunting.

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 06 2014 12:22 GMT

#370

I'm on my lunch break at work, nice to see a decent level of activity and posts from everyone now right?

A quick 2 cents from me after reading through today and looking at TheChyz's filter:

On January 06 2014 07:35 TheChyz wrote:
I agree with lurking to be discouraged by just lynching them for the most part. If they are scum then that's an easy kill, if they are town they provide nothing helpful and might cause some confusion in finding actual scum.

I think that while the lynching lurkers policy he suggests if anything favours scum and increases the likleyhood of misslynching I personally can pu it down to in experience.

On January 06 2014 07:47 TheChyz wrote:
Why so eager to have people help you achieve your goals? Maybe they don't agree with them. If onlywonderboy is right, then your rules help you if you are scum as well since you seem to be very active in which lynching lurkers would help your cause of staying alive. Also having people fight can cause confusion in the town. So I don't see a reason why people should just help you achieve your goals.

When I read this last night I thought it was the scummiest thing I had ever seen in my life. However, after rereading it along with:

On January 06 2014 12:08 TheChyz wrote:
Ok I think my little posts before I had to go afk helped generate enough argument to start conversations going. I actually total love the idea of trying to catch bandwagoners early and since Balla posted something similar to the train of thought I usually have I thought someone would catch the link. If you did, congrats.

It is enough for me to ##Unvote for now.

If TheChyz is scum I would be almost certain he is a godfarther though. Actually now I say that.......

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 06 2014 12:34 GMT

#371

To anyone who may be a cop:

Please DO NOT take my quite probably highly missguided reverse godfarther read on TheChyz into account when decided who to scum check.

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 06 2014 13:06 GMT

#372

I would encourage people to have a look at Sukis filter also. She snap takes the bandwagon on TheChyz (which i actually think appears neutral if not town) but then follows up with a lot of 1 liners and what can only be described as offtopic spam. Most worrying post:

On January 06 2014 11:58 suki wrote:
Okay then, lets get back to scumhunting :D

Followed by ominous silence

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 06 2014 17:26 GMT

#386

Ok boys and girls I am back from work and ready to Sherlock Holmes this shit up.

On January 07 2014 01:16 suki wrote:
Hi Chyz,

Can you share your thoughts on Dragoon/BigDad for me as well?

I would very much like a answer to this question with a reasonable level of depth and thought if possible as I think it is important.

chinstrap

United Kingdom253 Posts

January 06 2014 18:33 GMT

#397

On January 07 2014 03:31 Derrida wrote:
somewhat offtopic: + Show Spoiler +

is there a easy way of accessing people's filters, like i always go to some random page to find someones post and click his filter before I write anything, which is time consuming

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