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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 05 2013 05:05 GMT
#26
/in
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 07 2013 16:07 GMT
#76
On November 07 2013 12:54 Spaghetticus wrote:
/in

Hey bud !

Long time !
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 08 2013 09:38 GMT
#94
On November 08 2013 18:04 OOHCHILD wrote:
i'm not a smurf just too lazy to log into my other account atm an di dont know the password exactly...
/in kushm4sta

LOl.

Kush smurfs in non-newbies now?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 09 2013 11:41 GMT
#119
On November 09 2013 05:09 yamato77 wrote:
WoS, if I told you I was playing, would you rejoin?

Was about to say /out

as per:
On November 09 2013 00:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
i don't feel like dealing with irrational rage from you, and don't want to be involved in or create drama. If it won't happen, then I'll play. If it will, then I won't.


Then i saw:
On November 09 2013 06:20 marvellosity wrote:
but you're not playing.


Crisis diverted...
*phew*
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 11:43:00
November 09 2013 11:42 GMT
#120
On November 09 2013 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
yes I do.

edit: as someone mentioned it to me, that's not me saying that you can't. merely that you currently aren't

I request a warning for Marvellosity for editing

It is strictly against the rules


e:
On November 04 2013 06:58 marvellosity wrote:
Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 12 2013 08:56 GMT
#155
On November 12 2013 16:05 Onegu wrote:
Im going to go for a 22 page filter as either alignmemt this game. See how it goes.

Chortle
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 13 2013 02:07 GMT
#180
On November 13 2013 09:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Interesting. and we are allowed to vote for ourselves

Only if you use the mayor power to lynch yourself.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 09:15:37
November 13 2013 08:39 GMT
#183
0......u......t
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 13 2013 22:02 GMT
#205
On November 14 2013 00:23 yamato77 wrote:
If Moc is actually going to out because of me, put him in and take me out.

I don't understand why it has to be this way, but whatever.

Twas no

/ in the message, so wan't real.

All good.

however, if you joined without the intent to play, I would consider outting for realz, so lurking sux
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 14 2013 03:41 GMT
#215
If this starts in 24hrs, thats alright cos it will be Friday.

If this starts in 48hrs, weekend & mayor elections do *not* go hand in hand
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 14 2013 03:42 GMT
#216
On November 14 2013 12:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
[image loading]

I just finished watching pacific rim so thats pretty funny to see

(yes I Know its dbz)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 14 2013 06:09 GMT
#225
Thats full house I think.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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November 14 2013 06:18 GMT
#227
On November 14 2013 15:14 geript wrote:
/in if there's room
/replacement if there's not

uuugghhhhh
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 02:06 GMT
#504
Firstly,
I am announcing my intention to run for mayor.

My campaign is a simple one.
I will play my normal game: pressure/hunt scum openly in the thread.
This person will then create the justification for my votes as mayor.

Having said that, the goal of this game is not to lynch scum day1, but to lynch scum repeatedly.
If an alternative <more popular> candidate will lynch my day1 target, then; I am willing to step down.


Secondly,

Once there are two or three front-runners for the mayor candidacy (perhaps in 24hrs time), we need to start discussing how to handle the pardoner situation.

The typical solutions are:
(1) Put the day1 lynch target as pardoner, so we remove the role from the game
(2) If there is a very-strong town read on someone worth NK'n, make them the pardoner so they get the NK protection.

As stated before, there is no point discussing this until the game develops more.


Lastly,
I present my best read:

On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?
On November 15 2013 08:38 StorrZerg wrote:
Kill people who claim to be mafia

claim rng for first lynch (prob not but need to keep people active)

hunt scum

lynch them with fire


This conversation stuck out to me, enough to warrant a filter-dive.

Its hard to give an opinion on Mig. What he said is pro-town, but its also the general spiel either alignment can spew.
Will need to see more from Mig to form an opinion, however.....

What I am more concerned about is Storrzerg.
Specifically:
On November 15 2013 08:38 StorrZerg wrote:
claim rng for first lynch (prob not but need to keep people active)

The justification presented for an rng lynch (" it keeps people active") is a' token gesture' at best, and 'devoid of any responsibility' at worst. --> I deem this to irrevocably satisfy scum motivations.

Compare Storrzerg to Hogwarts.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052&currentpage=41#814
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2013 05:51 StorrZerg wrote:
i still think sn0 man is the best lynch atm

Firstly his Stance on HufflePuff

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing


Such a think is uncalled for specifically since "Hufflepuff has produced the fewest Dark wizards of all the four Houses, if any."


Thus my scum meeter was going nuts, now this isn't enough for a day 1 lynch but it is a very good start.
After I called him out, he ignored me and made this very weird post.

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 08:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Theres a certain amount of scum motivation to not trying the pickup line challenge simply because you feel like another house could be influenced more easily by scum. Since a scum player would know which house had the most scummers in it (and/or the least strong town)


Again, this post just read really weird to me.


So i checked his post history in previous games, and imo doesn't line up with his town. (usually he has more effort into his posts longer posts etc) He hadn't done anything till i called him out which his next post was

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 08:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:16 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:15 I-be-Pro wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:01 I-be-Pro wrote:
Anyways, that's it for me, have to wake up in 7 hours again. Something that might be interesting from my QT or might just be plainly nothing:

Skanjab1s asked if I am I-be-Pro (I called myself Toad in the QT... sry) - nothing wrong with this one at all, despite my recent attacks against him.
snowman answered that question with a positive (trying to rephrase here...)

Think he has been reading the thread and is actively lurking atm. Make of that what you want. I don't have the time to type any more tonight, sry.


If you think is nothing wrong with it, then why bother posting it at all? Seems rather pointless, no?

It's how I play d1. I make a big deal out of very minor things to make people talk about things happening in the thread instead of talking about politics/house-quests or whatever else. The intention is to get some reactions from people and have a quick start into d1. Some people have to start the discussion somehow and I usually take that as my job on d1.

Means I'm usually a big meanie on d1 and I'm often times stating things that look like nothing to people and they're hardly anything else to me most of the time as well. But I find that a lot better than having a discussion the first 24 hours about some weird plan of someone because people have to commit somewhat the way I'm doing things.

I might add it is currently working but now I'm really sleeping


So your plan for catching scum is "post things that aren't important, because then people will talk about unimportant things and that will give me reads"

Why don't you 1-up him by posting important things?



He then pretty much goes dark after that.

I will conclude my thoughts with he is none other than Slytherin scum.
(btw this just so happens to have the house with the most notorious dark wizards in our world. He is very well a puppet to his parents)

ps
die scum




In one of his first posts he plays balls-to-the-wall and presents a scum read with analysis.

In this game we get:
On November 15 2013 08:36 StorrZerg wrote:
yamato77 will have to back me as well.

he knows that I hunt for scum.

also we should lynch people who claim mafia, 100% pro town tip
Generic spiel + potential scum slip.
The town mentality is " hunt scum"
Hunting "for" scum, as a first post is.. interesting

On November 15 2013 08:38 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?



Kill people who claim to be mafia

claim rng for first lynch (prob not but need to keep people active)

hunt scum

lynch them with fire

As explained prior, RNG for lynch does not share congruence with his attitude to "hunt scum"
But is congruent with "hunting for scum"

On November 15 2013 08:43 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:38 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?

We could reasonably select mayors based on how much we like their lynch choices.

That will be my main platform, anyway. Any political support I give should I step out of the race would have to be to a player I think is actually going to lynch mafia.


How about an active guy?
a guy that is looking out for the town because he is town!


time to let some fresh blood lead the town straight and true
im the clear and easy town read, no chance to be scum.

More generic spiel. Since when is activity an indicator of alignment for the majority of players?

On November 15 2013 09:50 StorrZerg wrote:
Joke
ill be great
whywon't peoplee let the scrub give it a go
I'll try and make a bigger impact tomorrow, today is just not good for posting
First he wants to be mayor due to "hunting for scum"
Secondly, his justification is "to give a scrub a shot".
Thirdly, Playing the n00b card??



Storrzerg clearly has no motivation to scum hunt.
I get that his posting was early Day1 -- perhaps there was nothing to "focus" on.
However, each of his posts has exhibited a mindset not conducive to finding scum, let alone lynch scum.

His platform is a RNG lynch hidden behind newbie undertones, and ultimately:

where I stand currently with my mayor target is: Storrzerg
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 02:16 GMT
#511
On November 15 2013 11:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
hm mocsta is either scum for jumping on lynchbait or town jumping on lynchbait.

So classic chainsaw defending oats is back in town.

Gg too easy.

Nice attempt to belittle my case. Storrzerg is an experienced player. Far from lynch bait.

Want to have another go and explain why you disagree with my findings.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 02:47 GMT
#535
On November 15 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 11:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Mocsta can you explain more simply why Storrzerg is scum. what is the difference between hunting for scum and wanting to hunt scum?

What's so compelling about Mocsta's StorrZerg suspicion that you should comment on that and not any of the other suspicions being flown around? This might be the first post in which you don't mention Kush.

It's the worst accusation I've seen.

O really.....

Storrzerg could be town making a selfish play for mayor.
I can dig that, been there done that.
I actually acknowledged this in my post.

However, what I identified after a filter dive is that aside from a game plan to campaign for mayor his choice of play is pro town.

Every game I have played in, it has always been scum pushing rng... Myself included in that increasingly larger subset.
Storrzerg positions himself as a reliable scum hunter, asserting that unknowns yamato and VE would vote for him.
Then spins this around proposing RNG on the basis of forcing activity.

Yeah... I don't buy this, and neither should anyone else.
It's a cheap cop out and I can not imagine a town person would approach a mayor game in this fashion.


So.. your town. Why is this such a bad accusation that you are willing to delurk to voice concern.
Actually fuck that Grack. If you are so certain it is bad play I want him lynched... Who do YOU want lynched as of now.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 02:55 GMT
#543
On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.

The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta.

Oats baby.

Read my case again

I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game.

He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game.


Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.

Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 03:01 GMT
#554
On November 15 2013 11:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 11:47 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Mocsta can you explain more simply why Storrzerg is scum. what is the difference between hunting for scum and wanting to hunt scum?

What's so compelling about Mocsta's StorrZerg suspicion that you should comment on that and not any of the other suspicions being flown around? This might be the first post in which you don't mention Kush.

It's the worst accusation I've seen.

O really.....

Storrzerg could be town making a selfish play for mayor.
I can dig that, been there done that.
I actually acknowledged this in my post.

However, what I identified after a filter dive is that aside from a game plan to campaign for mayor his choice of play is pro town.

Every game I have played in, it has always been scum pushing rng... Myself included in that increasingly larger subset.
Storrzerg positions himself as a reliable scum hunter, asserting that unknowns yamato and VE would vote for him.
Then spins this around proposing RNG on the basis of forcing activity.

Yeah... I don't buy this, and neither should anyone else.
It's a cheap cop out and I can not imagine a town person would approach a mayor game in this fashion.


So.. your town. Why is this such a bad accusation that you are willing to delurk to voice concern.
Actually fuck that Grack. If you are so certain it is bad play I want him lynched... Who do YOU want lynched as of now.

I don't think that's true at all. Lots of townies push RNG normally including myself. You posted a long fluffy post with 3 weak points.

Storrzerg played the noob card- It's not scummy for newbs to use the noob card.
He added the word for between hunt scum - wat?
He thinks it would be a good idea to suggest RNG to raise activity - How does that make him scum?

Damn auto correct some of the above came out wrong.
Ohh well.

Storrzerg isn't a noob. Anyways. This is pointless. I have identified my grievances with storrzerg and am somewhat surprised that you and oats are trying to cockblock storrzerg from having to respond.

I don't like this from either of you.

My suggestion is to shut up and let storrzerg respond. You can reassess your reads from there.

In the meantime. Grack. You dodged my question.
Who do YOU want to lynch, cos all I'm hearing is who you don't.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 03:23 GMT
#587
This oats/ve thing has to stop.

It's making it a lot Harder to read either player as there is now motive that exists outside this game to consider.


Sharrant is a name that keeps popping out.
Can someone walk me through what the problem is.
Iirc he has made one post.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 03:35 GMT
#601
On November 15 2013 12:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:23 Mocsta wrote:
This oats/ve thing has to stop.

It's making it a lot Harder to read either player as there is now motive that exists outside this game to consider.


Sharrant is a name that keeps popping out.
Can someone walk me through what the problem is.
Iirc he has made one post.

There are motives that exist outside the game to consider with every player of every game.

I disliked how Sharrant just looked to appear active - he asked a couple of players questions that led nowhere and then disappeared. I like that people are talking about him because it means maybe he'll feel inclined to participate more fully if he's town and if he's scum, why it gets his name in the hat for lynch regardless of who's mayor in the end.

Sharrant is notoriously difficult to read.

He gets called scum in every game I have played with . For the same reasons each and every time.

I.e. lurking, useless etc

This doesn't make him town, but off one or two posts makes him completely useless to consider.
He is a coin flip d1.

I'm not stating to not pressure him. Go ahead.
I think however as a prime scum read, that effort is better placed as an alternative read.
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