The Artosis Curse: An Examination

BlackPanther

United States872 Posts

August 11 2013 22:47 GMT

As most people in the Starcraft community are aware, Artosis has been making an unrealistic number of wrong predictions in the past several months. It has gotten to the point where people believe that the correlation between Artosis's predictions and losses has turned into causation.

I have created this thread to provide the community with a running archive of Artosis's predictions and their effect on the Starcraft II professional scene. Any assistance would be much appreciated. I'll try to update this list when possible.

UPDATE: Out of fairness to Artosis, I'll only update the prediction rate with results starting from WCS Season 2 Finals.

Red = Wrong
Green = Correct
Blue = Cheer, not prediction

Current Prediction Rate: 6-6, 50.0%

WCS KR Season 3
Ro32 Group A 1 - 0
Artosis predicts Soulkey over Pigbaby
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_gsl/b/453128923

Result: Soulkey beats Pigbaby 2-1

Ro32 Group B 0-2
Artosis predicts Keen over Trap 2-1
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_gsl

Result: Keen loses to Trap 1-2

Artosis predicts Symbol over Keen
Predicition: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_gsl

Result: Symbol loses to Keen 1-2

WCS Season 2 Finals 4-4
Ro16
Artosis predicts Rain and Jaedong to advance.
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POB3D9ZR3dg (52:19)

Result: Jaedong and Rain make it out of group

Artosis predicts First and Polt to advance.
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POB3D9ZR3dg (52:19)

Result: First makes it out of the group but Polt is knocked out

Artosis predicts Innovation and Taeja to advance.
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POB3D9ZR3dg (52:19)

Result: Taeja makes it out of group but Innovation is knocked out

Artosis predicts MMA to beat Scarlett 2-1.
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

WCS Season 2 Finals VOD (update later)

Result: MMA loses to Scarlett 0-2

Artosis predicts Maru to beat Alive
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

WCS Season 2 Finals VOD (update later)

Result: Maru loses to Alive 0-2

WCS Korea Season 3 Up and Down: 1-0 / 0-1
Group F
Artosis predicts Jjakji to win over Shine
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 19m
@Khaldor @proxywolf hi! I think jjakji will win, hope shine wins tho Tt (can't find link)

Result: Jjakji wins over Shine

Artosis cheers for Shine to win over Jjakji
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/367981397257883649

Result: Shine loses to Jjakji

---------------------------------INCOMPLETE PREDICTIONS------------------------------------------------------

WCS EU Season 2: 0-0 / 0-2
Finals
Artosis cheers for MC to win against Duckdeok
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/366613640150917121

Result: MC loses to Duckdeok 3-4

Semi-Finals
Artosis cheers for Grubby to beat Duckdeok
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/366560009968037888

Result: Grubby loses to Duckdeok 2-3

WCS KR Season 2: 3-10
Finals
Artosis predicts Rain to beat Maru 4-2.
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424794

Result: Rain loses to Maru 2-4

Semi-Finals
Artosis predicts Innovation to beat Maru
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80756

Result: Innovation loses to Maru 0-4

Artosis predicts Rain to beat Bomber
Prediction: Don't have access to VOD, need verification
Result: Rain wins against Bomber 4-1 (Bomber Law overpowers Artosis Curse)

Quarter-Finals
Artosis predicts First to beat Bomber
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80755 (0:30)

Result: First loses to Bomber 0-3

Artosis predicts Rain to beat Supernova
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80754 (4:55)

Result: Rain wins against Supernova 3-2

Artosis predicts Symbol to defeat Maru
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

stuchiu (more evidence?)

Result: Symbol loses to Maru 1-3

Ro16
Artosis predicts Rain to beat Fantasy (Note: This was the throw game)
Prediciton: + Show Spoiler +

JKM (more evidence?)

Result: Rain wins against Fantasy 2-0

Artosis predicts Innovation to beat Bomber
Prediction: Don't have access to VOD, need verification
Result: Innovation loses to Bomber 0-2

Artosis predicts Flash to beat Bomber
Prediction: Don't have access to VOD, need verification
Result: Flash loses to Bomber 0-2

Artosis predicts Symbol to defeat First 2-1
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

stuchiu (more evidence?)

Result: Symbol loses to First 0-2

Artosis predicts Soulkey to defeat Supernova 2-0
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

stuchiu (more evidence?)

Result: Soulkey loses to Supernova 1-2

Artosis predicts Fantasy to defeat Hyvaa 2-0
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

stuchiu (more evidence?)

Result: Fantasy loses to Hyvaa 1-2

Ro32
Artosis predicts sOs to beat Maru
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

stuchiu (more evidence?)

Result: sOs loses to Maru 0-1

ASUS ROG Summer 2013: 0-3
Finals
Artosis predicts San to win ASUS over Taeja
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/363727500498583552

Result: San loses to Taeja 1-3

Semi-Finals
Artosis predicts Hyun to beat San
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/363717168958939136

Result: Hyun loses to San 0-3

Quarter-Finals
Artosis predicts Alicia to win ASUS and not take second place
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/363688603009814531

Result: Alicia loses to Taeja 2-3, doesn't even get 2nd place.

IEM Shanghai: 0-0 / 0-1
Quarter-Finals
Artosis cheers for Myungsik during the group stage of IEM
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/Artosis/statuses/360597492615741444

Result: Myungsik loses group 0-2, map score 1-4

WCS Season 1 Finals: 5-3
Ro16
Artosis predicts Soulkey and TLO to make it out of Group A
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

(1:30:00ish)

Result: Soulkey makes it out of group, TLO does not make it out of group

Artosis predicts Mvp and Alicia to make it out of Group B
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQIapOiXT9A (1:30:00ish)

Result: Both Mvp and Alicia make it out of Group B

Artosis predicts Hero and Symbol to make it out of Group C
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQIapOiXT9A (1:30:00ish)

Result: Neither Hero or Symbol make it out of the group

Artosis predicts Innovation and Roro to make it out of Group D
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQIapOiXT9A (1:30:00ish)

Result: Both Innovation and Roro make it out of Group D

WCS KR Season 1: 0-2
Finals
Artosis predicts Innovation to win 4-3 over Soulkey
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/80094 (at 10:28)

Result: Innovation loses to Soulkey 3-4

Other
Artosis predicts YongHwa to make it into Ro8 Code S minimum
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://s22.postimg.org/vge1isyw1/artosis.png

Result: YongHwa does not make it into Code S

Homestory Cup 5: 0-1
Finals
Artosis predicts YongHwa to win Homestory Cup 5 over Nerchio
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://s22.postimg.org/vge1isyw1/artosis.png

Result: YongHwa loses to Nerchio 1-4

GSL 2012 Season 4: 0-1
Finals
Artosis predicts Mvp to win over Life
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls4/vod/70653

Result: Mvp loses to Life 3-4

GSL 2012 Season 2: 0-3
Finals
Artosis predicts Squirtle to defeat Mvp 4-2
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

stuchiu (more evidence?)

Result: Squirtle loses to Mvp 4-3

Semi-Finals
Artosis predicts Parting to defeat Mvp 3-2
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

stuchiu (more evidence?)

Result: Parting loses to Mvp 1-3

Quarter-Finals
Artosis predicts Naniwa to defeat Mvp 3-2
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

stuchiu (more evidence?)

Result: Naniwa loses to Mvp 1-3

GSL November 2011: 0-1
Quarter-Finals
Artosis predicts either Mvp, Puzzle, or OZ to win the tournament. Specifically says Jjakji won't win.
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

Result: MVP, Puzzle, and OZ get knocked out. Jjakji wins 4-2 over Leenock

GSL March 2011: 0-1
Ro32
Artosis predicts San to not make it out of the group, will swallow a sword if he does.
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8fCSjINJKw (6:22)

Result: San makes it out of his group 3-0, Artosis hasn't swallowed the sword yet.

TSL 3: 3-8
Ro32
Artosis predicts White-Ra to beat Loner
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (14:39-15:00)

Result: White-Ra beats Loner 2-1

Artosis predicts Mvp to beat Adelscott
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (23:06)

Result: Mvp loses to Adelscott 0-2

Artosis predicts Genius to beat QXC
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (25:36)

Result: Genius loses to QXC 1-2

Artosis predicts NaDa to beat TLO
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (27:15)

Result: NaDa beats TLO 2-1

Artosis predicts Haypro to beat Kas
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (33:11)

Result: Haypro loses to Kas 1-2

Artosis predicts Jinro to beat Morrow
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (48:05)

Result: Jinro loses to Morrow 1-2

Artosis predicts Huk to beat Hasuobs
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (52:47)

Result: Huk loses to HasuObs 1-2

Artosis predicts Nestea to beat GoOdy
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (57:47)

Result: Nestea loses to GoOdy 1-2

Artosis predicts Ret to beat Naniwa
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (1:03:03)

Result: Ret loses to Naniwa 1-2

Artosis predicts IdrA to beat Cruncher
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (1:05:40)

Result: IdrA loses to Cruncher 1-2

Artosis predicts Mondragon to beat Zeerax
Prediction: + Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPwiPktvyI (1:10:36)

Result: Mondragon beats Zeerax 2-0

Thanks to the following for helping contribute!
ConGee
JKM
CosmicSpiral
Stuchiu
NoobyStyles
Stress
iMrising
ThomasjServo

NOTE: THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE LIST, IT WILL BE CONTINUOUSLY UPDATED

SibChil

Sweden502 Posts

August 11 2013 22:50 GMT

Quick, someone find Artosis liquidbet

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

August 11 2013 22:51 GMT

What about the OSL Finals

TheRabidDeer

United States3806 Posts

August 11 2013 22:51 GMT

While interesting, I think that he has made a ton more predictions than these.

Cokefreak

Finland8094 Posts

August 11 2013 22:52 GMT

On August 12 2013 07:51 grush57 wrote:
What about the OSL Finals

Did you read the OP?

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

August 11 2013 22:53 GMT

On August 12 2013 07:52 Cokefreak wrote:

Show nested quote +

Did you read the OP?

I just saw wcs and asus.

Edit: Is OSL wcs? :o

tshi

United States2495 Posts

August 11 2013 22:54 GMT

Also, that fake prediction on terry-the-intern. should count that too

slowbacontron

United States7722 Posts

August 11 2013 22:54 GMT

On August 12 2013 07:53 grush57 wrote:

Show nested quote +

I just saw wcs and asus.

Edit: Is OSL wcs? :o

yes

BlackPanther

United States872 Posts

August 11 2013 22:54 GMT

On August 12 2013 07:51 TheRabidDeer wrote:
While interesting, I think that he has made a ton more predictions than these.

I know, that's why I'd like some help gathering data lol.

EiBmoZ

Canada235 Posts

August 11 2013 22:55 GMT

#10

someone get him to back marijuana prohibition, use those powers for some good

Elldar

Sweden287 Posts

August 11 2013 22:56 GMT

#11

A total summary would be nice and a conclusion.

In total 1/10 that is really shitty predictions

(if op are correct about artosis predictions).
If he flipped a coin it would give him better result TT.

United States2586 Posts

August 11 2013 22:57 GMT

#12

Cliiide!

slowbacontron

United States7722 Posts

August 11 2013 22:58 GMT

#13

JJAKJI

forumtext

575 Posts

August 11 2013 23:00 GMT

#14

edit

CuSToM

United States1478 Posts

August 11 2013 23:00 GMT

#15

This has been happening since the early days of GSL. In open season 1 Artosis and Tasteless said that Clide was the best player in the world and would win a GSL and he ended up always being a middle tier Code S player. A few months later Artosis said he would swallow a sword if San made it out of a group with Nestea, Boxer and I think Ensnare, saying he had no chance. San ended up making it out of the group in first place. Alicia was another player who was supposed to win a title according to Artosis but it never happened.

There's probably a bunch more but I can't remember and I haven't been paying enough attention lately.

phodacbiet

United States1739 Posts

August 11 2013 23:01 GMT

#16

Safe to say that this curse effects not only starcraft 2 players, but EVERYONE! Nobody is safe.

Talin

Montenegro10532 Posts

August 11 2013 23:01 GMT

#17

That's really bizarre.

Then again, most people probably made the same or similar predictions.

Destructicon

4713 Posts

August 11 2013 23:02 GMT

#18

While entertaining, I feel you could do better, how about a examination of all his records from 2010, 2011 and 2012, that is if you want really in depth examination.