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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 07 2013 15:08 GMT
#8
/in

Aperture 1 was the game that made me try mafia.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 07 2013 15:09 GMT
#9
do players have unique kill flavor again?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 07 2013 16:14 GMT
#22
On August 08 2013 00:12 GreYMisT wrote:
they do not

T_T
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 16 2013 14:07 GMT
#101
I just noticed you missed VE on the signup list! How will we know who to dayvig d1?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 16 2013 22:05 GMT
#115
maybe i'll make myself a mostpostvig.

actually yeah. if I have kp I will use them on the person with the most posts. promise.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 16 2013 22:43 GMT
#120
On August 17 2013 07:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
I've actually encrypted all of my GP and they're out of reach of even you GreY. It was a precaution I took after getting banned due to Chrono.


um

that's like saying "i've put all my treasury bonds where the treasury department will never ever find them."

it kind of ruins the point
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 21 2013 14:23 GMT
#142
/in

I will plat double!
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 22 2013 14:24 GMT
#167
Greymist you forgot to count me twice
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 23 2013 21:27 GMT
#175
On August 24 2013 06:06 FiveTouch wrote:
/out

nooooooooooooooo
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 24 2013 15:37 GMT
#180
On August 24 2013 06:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On August 24 2013 06:27 strongandbig wrote:
On August 24 2013 06:06 FiveTouch wrote:
/out

nooooooooooooooo


wat?

I like playing with Marv. Idk why, maybe it's a touch of masochism or something.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#183
I'm okay for waiting
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 28 2013 14:57 GMT
#216
we got axlegreaser too, hes supposed to be crazy right? now we just need chezinu
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 28 2013 20:30 GMT
#265
/confirm
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 14:47 GMT
#674
Hey DI I'd rather do all three of the things you said than the one you didn't.

Anyway:

On August 30 2013 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 30 2013 10:26 Blazinghand wrote:
The thing is cora I don't think this is alignment indicative. You're giving shit reasons and swearing at people would definitely be scum aligned (Trying to shit up the thread) if it weren't for the fact that I know you. I know how butthurt you get, how emotional you get, how irrational you are. How all the drama on TL Mafia just HAPPENS to swirl around you. You're clearly butthurt and don't even want to admit it, because let's be real here: you have no reason to be a dick to wave (even if he too is being a dick) and saying "fuck you" and your policy shit on Oats doesn't make sense. You're playing against town/thread cohesion which is fairly impressive given how hard it is to do that when the game is barely begun.

Three theories, none of which you like
1) cora is scum
2) cora is really really mind bogglingly bad
3) cora is butthurt

one of these fits quite well with your personality

What about
4) Cora is trying to get killed/lynched?
There are certainly a lot of people I'm going to have to ignore this game, golly gosh.

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On August 30 2013 10:26 geript wrote:
@WoS I need a number on a scale from 1 to bitch please.

Where does 'Are you fo realz?!?!' fit?

This one is so clearly wrong it kind of makes me want to kill wos. Cora was obviously butthurt, but he also had posts where he was trying to play the game. neither of those points to jester. What's the thought process here? It really feels like saying something just for the sake of saying it.
More importantly,
On August 30 2013 10:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 30 2013 10:26 Blazinghand wrote:
The thing is cora I don't think this is alignment indicative. You're giving shit reasons and swearing at people would definitely be scum aligned (Trying to shit up the thread) if it weren't for the fact that I know you. I know how butthurt you get, how emotional you get, how irrational you are. How all the drama on TL Mafia just HAPPENS to swirl around you. You're clearly butthurt and don't even want to admit it, because let's be real here: you have no reason to be a dick to wave (even if he too is being a dick) and saying "fuck you" and your policy shit on Oats doesn't make sense. You're playing against town/thread cohesion which is fairly impressive given how hard it is to do that when the game is barely begun.

Three theories, none of which you like
1) cora is scum
2) cora is really really mind bogglingly bad
3) cora is butthurt

one of these fits quite well with your personality

This is an awful lot of words to say "I have no opinion on Cora yet" and "I still attest that you're, in fact, butthurt."

A lot.

Sup BH?

VE what happened to this?
BH is clearly not playing to his town "persona". As well as not responding to alakaslam like I would expect. I'm really not sure why but I'm thinking it might be alignment indicative.


Also,
No one else reveal their item names. I don't remember who but someone earlier in the thread said their item was used by someone else to build a doomsday machine. It seems likely that this doomsday machine has multiple pieces that need to be collected and something like the "null talisman" could easily be part of it.. Okay that was still koshi speculating about his item. Still given the rift destabilization mechanic from before and the fate counter, it's kind of likely that someone bad wants townies' items.

One last thing - Ryan is town. Scum I'm giving you this townread for free to help direct your night kills plz kill him.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 15:02 GMT
#683
Okay I read the stuff that got posted while I was reading the thread.

Kita plz. If you're town, DI is a terrible target for a troll policy lynch. Better targets are alakaslam, cep hiro at this point, vayne. But policy lynching dandel is useless since he gives up as scum anyway.

Kill list: wos, Kita, bh, anyone with less posts than me. Gogo
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 19:37 GMT
#885
On August 31 2013 00:34 kitaman27 wrote:
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On August 31 2013 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
Kita plz. If you're town, DI is a terrible target for a troll policy lynch. Better targets are alakaslam, cep hiro at this point, vayne. But policy lynching dandel is useless since he gives up as scum anyway.


Frankly I'm pretty amazed at the number of people spazzing out at me for a policy lynch 12 hours into the game against a reasonable target. Based on the number of people willing to come to Dandel's defense calling his contributions valid as if he wasn't a complete anti-town troll, it usually points to scum players trying to defend a town player for town cred. Wave calling Dandel one of the most active players in the thread is mind boggling. Even Dandel would probably admit to the fact that he has been completely useless. I'm still not satisfied with Dandel's play so far though, so my vote will remain for now.

I would actually be quite content with most of the names you have listed. Ceph is quite capable so I might be more willing to keep him around past day one, even though he is a better scum player than town player.


Yeah my problem isn't that dandel is contributing and that was one of many weird things from wos. My problem was that he's a bad policy lynch for a townie to propose.


On August 30 2013 21:56 kitaman27 wrote:
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On August 30 2013 21:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
ps: kita just wants me dead because I'm such an incredibly good player and I'm able to read him real good.

Which means he's scared of me reading him with my reading abilities
Which means he's mafia.

OMGUS engaged.


States that I wanted him dead as town in GoT in previous post. Infers that my scum meta is to want him dead because of I fear his abilities. Justifying vote based on false conclusion.

Also, I just saw this post in your filter. I don't like it. Being amorphous between policy lynch and calling do scum.

Did you want to kill him for policy reasons or did you think he was scum? It feels like it didnt really Maggie to you.

Guys other than Kita: I really think he might be scum. Policy talk is okay but there's a lot of it. The wos attack is like his only solid post. And also this:


On August 30 2013 23:14 kitaman27 wrote:


On an unrelated note, BH has a history of trying to pick fights on day one as mafia to try to spam up the thread. I'm currently suspicious of his intentions.



First, I could d wrong but my impression is tha bh picks fights regardless of alignment, because picking fights and insulting people is like bu's main mode of social interaction (like, that one time he made Cora ragequit the Skype group). That's beside the point though, because what bh has done in this thread is definitely not pick fights. Like, part of the reason I'm suspicious of bh is that he's only called one person bad and that person was corazon; bh declined ve's fight offer over previous games, and now he's being self-deprecating (scum wtf) over the cep hiro case. But Kita just tossing that one liner in there feels to me like throwing suspicion around.


Man why do I think all three of VE, Kita, and bh are scummy now...
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 19:41 GMT
#887
Oh also

What if hiro and alakazam actually are in a sleeper cell together. Hiding in plain sight. That would be humorous and I see no reason to disbelieve it at this point.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 19:42 GMT
#888
On August 31 2013 04:40 randombum wrote:
The biggest gut reaction I had was vayne. His reveal makes no sense to me. Like why reveal it then? Like why mention anything about it at all.
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On August 31 2013 01:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I have a very good reason to play very pro-town this game, so get off my nuts ty

already showed in my first post through elegant trickery that i'm not scum

Why does he have to shout to everyone "Hey guys I'm playing pro-town". When the obvious best thing to do was be reasonable and continue scum hunting. He does that immediately after anyways. So that makes me think why reveal at all?

Another thing that struck out to me was
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On August 31 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
cephiro, felkyr, obviousone all scum lol

this game is easy so far

cephiro - get softly discredited by multiple people for "caring about the game" when I play differently every game so it's just an excuse to have an opinion. My case is promptly swept under the rug and nobody ever mentions him again until he responds to my post.

Felkyr - how long did it take you to make that entrance post, an hour?

obviousone - Instead of going with town sentiment and finding me scummy he immediately jumps to a 3rd party conclusion since he knows I'm not on his scumteam. Very strange conclusion to draw this early in the game.


Bold mine.
When reading though the thread I don't feel like there was any town sentiment that Vayne was scummy at the time. Did I just read the thread wrong/forgot about it in the 500+ posts I read, or was there actually town sentiment who wanted vayne lynched?

Some people wanted to kill him but more didnt, it was sort of a "more likely e bad than scum" situation.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 22:25 GMT
#999
HEY VE! I went through your filter and looked at every post where you mention geript.

On August 30 2013 09:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 30 2013 09:22 geript wrote:
Slam is scum. Like 1000%.

Y U NO VOTE GERIPT?

##Vote: geript

1000% is a pretty high percentage to not be accompanied by a vote - or at the very least some sort of supporting reasoning.

bad

five more of the same:
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On August 30 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 30 2013 09:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST.


HI VE U MAF?

NOT THIS TIME BRO VOTE GERIPT THO!

On August 30 2013 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh shit Wave hur.

Wave vote geript cause he scum.

On August 30 2013 10:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 30 2013 10:57 MrZentor wrote:
Is everybody okay with me deciding who we lynch today?

I'm totally okay with you deciding who you want to lynch today. More than okay, actually.

For my part, I'll be deciding who I want to lynch, thanks though. Right now it's geript.

On August 30 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want everyone who isn't voting for geript to explain very clearly why they're not voting for geript, Thank you in advance.


On August 30 2013 14:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ala I'll be interested in your thoughts on who is scum whenever you have them. I really think you should reconsider not voting for geript though. He's like totes magotes scum.
'

bad

oh wait this might be real
On August 31 2013 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
[snip]
I think geript is scum. I thought he was scum based on how he entered the game, as I said, and I've thought that everything he's said since has been an anti-town influence on the game. If anyone disagrees with me, I'd love to discuss the matter.

well, you don't actually provide reasons. your 1000% thing was obviously stupid and i see no actual comments on anything else geript has done. no idea why what geript is doing this game is different than the shitty shit he does every game.

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On August 31 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Except it didn't - it ONLY drew MY ire Clarity. I'm the only one who had any issue with geript at the beginning of the game.

On August 31 2013 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Geript hasn't played enough scum for me to guage how "ballsy" his scum play is. But I do know how ballsy his town-play is. And it's way more ballsy than the weak ass shit I'm seeing out of him this game.

Look at it like this: all he said was someone is scum. Like 1000%. Why would that draw any more attention to him than people trolling or people saying they haven't read their role PMs or people getting butthurt and ragequitting?


these posts are basically irrelevant, clarity's defense was dumb and ve's responses to it don't matter either. no reason geript's opening whatever would or should have been especially notable, it was someone who says dumb things saying a dumb thing at the start of the game.
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On August 31 2013 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 31 2013 03:15 geript wrote:
On August 31 2013 03:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 31 2013 03:07 geript wrote:
BH. You are so like 24 hours ago. Lynch slam.


As arousing as the thought of lynching a readless, unreadable troll is, can you give me your opinion on others in the thread. Namely active people.

Sure: I'd shoot BH, VE and WoS. I'd nuke Oats because he's both scummy and fun to nuke. But meh, I was done for today like idk 12 hours ago so DGAF activated.

He says this as if any fucks were given up to this point. LMAO

Still reading :d

On August 31 2013 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
EVERYONE SHOULD BE LYNCHING GERIPT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING IN THIS MATTER.



On August 31 2013 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 31 2013 05:38 Felkyr wrote:
VE (or someone else), could you summerise your case on geript for me? He is talking shit, true, but does that make him scum? The fact that he's asking for a gun actually feels townie to me, or 3p. Would scum have the guts to do that?

Also, you made that BM remark earlier (not knowing if they had a win conditions), when it was being said that they were a scum faction. Now, it seems you were on the right track. Why that does not really condemn you, it makes me think you might be BM yourself.

On that note, onegu and stutter, could you clarify what was being said in the BM quicktopic?

I've followed the Persona game a bit. And what stands out to me is that Koshi was very active there as townie. While now he doesn't seem to do a lot, except talk about his item.

Geript just doesn't feel townie to me when he normally is very obviously town to me.

He isn't doing anything that makes me feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, clarify peoples positions, anything. He's one of a few people that I have found I can count on to do that sort of thing (at least until they give up due to apathy of a lurky town) when they're town. And he's not doing that shit this game.

So it's mostly meta. I could go through his posts and show you why I think they're scum motivated I suppose, but that's all conjecture and subjective. What I can say about it as a whole however is that it doesn't feel like he's trying to figure out the game or get more information or anything. He looks like he's just trying to appear active and not get lynched.

Look at the way he defends himself against me. He's not even trying - he's just going "lol" every time. Why? If he was town and suspicious of me he'd be furious about my continued push on him and be calling for my head. He's doing nothing.

[snip]

Okay lets look at your history with geript.

The most recent game you and geript were both in was boardwalk empire. you were scum. doesn't count.

Then there's hydra mafia where you were hydras. doesn't count.

Prior to that was the game and TL LX. In the game, you and geript were both town. you never mention a read on him. but you do talk about him a few times, so it's possible that you got a town read through his obviousness.

Then there's LX where before you die:

On March 01 2013 08:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can't write a will post guys. I'm too busy at work.

Don't lynch Toad TOMORROW. Make him contribute and tell you if he's scum in earnest, don't just sheep me/DocH/BC on our suspicions this cycle. If it's a bus, then it was orchestrated and that means there was a purpose to it. That purpose may be to implicate those immediately responsible for it (me/Toad) or those who perpetuated it (MS/DocH/WF). We just can't be sure without more info, so don't act on that premise yet.

Instead lynch someone who's more obviously scummy. I suggest

Hassybaby, grepit, ObviousOne, Chezinu.


Geript gets mislynched.

So you've played with geript in two games, both six or more months ago. One time you misread him and probably contributed to his mislynch. The other time you never mention what your read on him was.

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On August 31 2013 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 31 2013 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi. I did not read the past 7 pages but BH is mafia.
##Vote: Blazinghand

You should, there's some good stuff in there. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but prefer to lynch geript as it's kinda been my hobby this game and I'd really like him to die. Plz?

On August 31 2013 06:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
No you're throwing in your lot with the likes of geript. If he flips scum you're next, and I don't like that it has to be like that.

On August 31 2013 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
"the likes" as in "players playing like they're obviously scummy scum"

I don't like it because I like playing with you when we're on the same team and if we're on the same team, it will be sad to lynch you next if/when geript flips scum.

On August 31 2013 06:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 31 2013 06:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh so you just think I'm scum, and you'd rather I wasn't scum. That makes sense. That being said, nobody's lynching me for at least the first few days of this game. I'm far too valuable!

You got it.

While we're engaged here, talk to me about things about other people you've noticed. I'm obviously not going to sway you on geript *wink wink* and a large part of your problem with Cephiro IS his issue with geript so that's not doing much swaying me in that regard, so what else is there?

What of this WaveOfShadow talk that's going on? I'm starting to have doubts on my initial read but not enough to want to lynch him. It's mostly the lack of content when he's around. Which I'll admit, he's around a fair enough amount to clear MOST players - but Wave pretty good imo and I'm starting to have doubts. What do you think?



I'm calling bullshit on your geript push, VE. you've been yelling about lynching him all game, but no one's actually pushed back and you've never bothered to provide any reasons why he's scum. you've just been yelling at people. This isn't how you push a lynch effectively, it's how you distract and divide a town.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 22:26 GMT
#1000
PS i'm not saying geript is town, i'm saying VE is scum for a shitty push on him. don't forget scum can push each other and I still think there are likely multiple scum factions.
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