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Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 28 2013 02:45 GMT
#202
This is my first game. But if you don't mind, I'll

/in
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 29 2013 03:04 GMT
#277
/confirm
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 15:24 GMT
#696
Hi guys. Sorry about me being late and acting as a 'lurker'. I've caught up with the thread now.

What I would like to elaborate on is the Null Talisman. It's the first item we've seen and I think it might be potentially very dangerous (or good of course). Now that Koshi has revealed it, it will surely come into play fast.

Some thoughts:
1) Why did Koshi reveal it? It might be that it blocks his role in some way. Of course, he could just have given it away then anonymously. But now it makes him appear town?
2) Can we trust Clarity to give him the item? I would be very careful with that.
3) On the other hand, now it is revealed, we can be quite sure scum will be after it. If there is about 6 scum (?), there might be a thief and someone who can use it in their advantage.
4) If scum would want to steal the item, how many nights would it take for them to actually use it? One night to steal, one night to give to someone who can use it, one night to actually use it. That's a long time.
5) Has someone a better idea on how the item exchange works? When Koshi gives the item away and it gets stolen on the same night, what happens first? That which is PMed first?

On another note, I don't understand Slam at all. But I have the feeling he says important things in his posts.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 15:30 GMT
#698
Well, I have read several posts who 'blame' the lurkers.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 15:47 GMT
#710
At this exact moment I wouldn't lynch anyone because I didn't hear of some people and others have been away for a long time. Most of what I read now seems like useless stuff.

That being said, I find Slam suspicious, but I'm not familiar with his usual play (who is The Taciturn One?).

Can I ask you the same question Stutters?
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 16:30 GMT
#734
On August 31 2013 01:16 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:47 Felkyr wrote:
At this exact moment I wouldn't lynch anyone because I didn't hear of some people and others have been away for a long time. Most of what I read now seems like useless stuff.

That being said, I find Slam suspicious, but I'm not familiar with his usual play (who is The Taciturn One?).

Can I ask you the same question Stutters?

You. I'm pretty slow to roll out reads but your intro posts have said nothing but came off as you trying to not be identified as a lurker. I don't like it.


I said 'sorry' because people seemed angry at the people who didn't post yet. I don't understand why that is a big deal.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 17:13 GMT
#764
On August 31 2013 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i am willing to believe vayne's claim.


Why would he ever claim such a role? It's not like there was no more chance at all he would get killed. It is an efficient way to stay alive though...
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 20:38 GMT
#918
VE (or someone else), could you summerise your case on geript for me? He is talking shit, true, but does that make him scum? The fact that he's asking for a gun actually feels townie to me, or 3p. Would scum have the guts to do that?

Also, you made that BM remark earlier (not knowing if they had a win conditions), when it was being said that they were a scum faction. Now, it seems you were on the right track. Why that does not really condemn you, it makes me think you might be BM yourself.

On that note, onegu and stutter, could you clarify what was being said in the BM quicktopic?

I've followed the Persona game a bit. And what stands out to me is that Koshi was very active there as townie. While now he doesn't seem to do a lot, except talk about his item.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 20:48 GMT
#933
On August 31 2013 05:41 Koshi wrote:
What is the point of this Black Mesa group? Stutters and Onegu?


You are quite inactive till I say something, and suddenly you're back =)

I've lost the post already, but someone said he had an idea with the false BM names. What is your idea? It might explain why some people don't want to post the names. I don't see a problem with learning how many BM there is and what they're called.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 20:58 GMT
#940
On August 31 2013 05:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 05:48 Felkyr wrote:
On August 31 2013 05:41 Koshi wrote:
What is the point of this Black Mesa group? Stutters and Onegu?


You are quite inactive till I say something, and suddenly you're back =)

I've lost the post already, but someone said he had an idea with the false BM names. What is your idea? It might explain why some people don't want to post the names. I don't see a problem with learning how many BM there is and what they're called.

what?


I don't feel like you are contributing to this game.

VE, you probably have a point, I am willing to vote geript, it seems more people are acknowledging what you say. As for the BM thing. I first thought that you would be the second townie to claim. Your earlier post seemed to imply you might know more of BM. When Stutters claimed instead I was a little surprised. But I understand it could have been pure conjecture from your part. I mean, at the time I agreed with your point.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 21:00 GMT
#941
On August 31 2013 05:54 Clarity_nl wrote:
nvm reading comprehension fail.

Wait so.... I thought this was your first game Felkyr?
You've been reading persona?


I have read parts of it as it was a running game at the moment. Might not have been a good idea. However, it seemed Koshi was acknowledged as town there and he said a lot. That's why I remembered his name.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 21:02 GMT
#943
On August 31 2013 06:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Scumslip by felky, called VE town. DIE SCUM


When did I call him town? Oo

Anyway, if you want my read on other people. I've just caught up with the thread, and was planning to read filters now. It's too much to get in one read.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 21:05 GMT
#946
How the fuck should I know? Give me a moment. Can you tell me what the difference between setup speculation and scum hunting is?
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 21:10 GMT
#950
Onegu claimed town BM. So I had the feeling that VE might claim town BM as well (if there would be another claim), for me he was the best candidate at the moment. But yes, from his post he did not look like particular scum to me, so I suppose he was more townie in my mind.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 23:10 GMT
#1047
On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:
I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread).

Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 31 2013 07:01 geript wrote:
Ok. Feel free to vote then.


##unvote
##vote geript


my points vs ceph still stand, new evidence leads to update WRT prior assumptn. max probability scum lynch is geript

This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment).

Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!"

Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him").

Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH.


If anything seems opportunistic to me it's this post itself. You've been targeting BH the whole game, with no clear reason or explanation (at least for me). Most of your talk is weird stuff ("roleplaying"?). He made ripples and that's why you lynch him? Can you explain to me what is between your lines?

Now suddenly there is a post that must be normal and convincing for us. Several people have voted for geript, also after his claim. And they have explained why. Why is HIS vote so weird?
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 31 2013 15:23 GMT
#1264
Alright, I have the feeling I have to defend myself. Although I am afraid that that will only make things worse. Fuck that, if you want to lynch me, YOU made a mistake, not me. I might play bad, but I'm not scum.

On August 31 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also Felkyr is totally scum man. Dont be fooled by newb townie, even any new townplayer wouldve at least done something other than SETUP SPECULATION. Its the easiest thing to pick up on for new scum because the thoughts surrounding them arent fake.


That underlined thing is totally true, that doesn't make me scum. It's true for town too. I'm still not entirely sure how setup speculation is defined, but if it's easy, of course I go back to that. Why did I talk about items. Because I think it is important, because it's ANALYTICAL. It's easy to think about, especially for me. The same is probably true for setup speculation. I think I'm at the moment better to think at such stuff than reading people.

Reading people is hard. If I catch up with the thread, everything that catches my mind is already elaborated upon a little after that. I'm not that active in this game and I'm slow. My replies come too late. You see things before I see things, you catch up on things easier. Often, it's natural to acknowledge people's cases if they make one. But there are different cases against everyone, and I have to find my own. It's just hard. Is that so difficult to understand? I just don't want to talk shit like some people here do. I want to give GOOD cases, but if I got something, people are generally faster than me. I don't want to repeat what's already said so many times. And most things seem to be already said.

Still, there are lots of people who haven't given reads on people. Some people did kinda nothing at all yet. I suppose I'm one of those though... What kind of reads did Slam give? I have thoughts about people, but often they are fuzzy. And they change when other people make cases against them. I have nothing to build upon, so I often follow the flow.

But I've been asked for my thoughts, so I'll give them. I hope they help. But I suppose they won't. You want me to scumhunt, I'll try. This is day one. It'll get easier when there is more practical information. I suppose...

I have no thoughts about people who don't post a lot. What can you say about that? That they don't post is suspicious, but hey, I didn't post that much either. It's easy to townread those who defend me, and scumread those who want to lynch me. But yeah... that's easy.

Hiro, BH, Dandel and Slam seem scummy to me. Why? They talk shit, their cases seem weak... Is it because other people make cases against them? Probably.

I don't feel good about Rayn. He hasn't said that much, and most of it is the BM stuff from the beginning. He talked about BM a lot, while he didn't want to talk about BM. He tried to sketch it as a scumteam. Looked like scum who wanted to direct attention to other scum. But now I'm not sure anymore.

Oats is talking shit of me. He has a point I suppose. What what has he done otherwise? I'm the easy target.

I have a townread on VE, Clarity, WoS, S&B. But in my mind everyone who doesn't do stuff wrong is town. You have to be scummy to deserve being treated as scummy. They participate, 'scumhunt', give reads. All as it should be, right? Koshi seems town, but does not seem to want to scumhunt either. The item giveaway was nice, but for me he could easily be 3p.

The stuff with VA still bothers me, whatever Rayn said about that (and hey I don't trust Rayn either). He says it was purely rageclaim. Well, it was a stupid rageclaim. Really stupid. From a logical point of view that was always bad, IF he is town.

Hassybaby has an interesting role it seems. But he does not want to contribute further. Could easily be 3P too.

Onegu and stutters their claim seems legit to me. I certainly wouldn't kill or lynch them now.

Cephiro, CC, .. they contributed, sometimes with good cases. I don't know...

I wouldn't lynch geript. I have the feeling he actually might have something useful for us.

I have to go now. But ask me whatever you want. I'll answer honestly in as far as I can when I'm back. Once I've caught up again... If you still think I'm scum after that, well... I die I suppose
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 31 2013 17:17 GMT
#1287
On September 01 2013 00:56 cakepie wrote:
Reverting last vote (actually extraneous, as was not posted in the voting thread.)
##Unvote
##Vote: Alakaslam


----

Alright Felkyr here's one for you

Show nested quote +
I don't feel good about Rayn. He hasn't said that much, and most of it is the BM stuff from the beginning. He talked about BM a lot, while he didn't want to talk about BM. He tried to sketch it as a scumteam. Looked like scum who wanted to direct attention to other scum. But now I'm not sure anymore.


I don't see the Black Mesa discussion from Rayn as insiduous, can you explain further why he looks like "scum who wanted to direct attention to other scum"? Before Onegu came out with his information about BM, Rayn's stance that BM should be treated as a scum faction is reasonable, no? Plus his disagreement with kitaman revolved around a misunderstanding. Is there anything else that supports your suspicions, perhaps?


Alright, I have time to answer that question, then I'm gone again.

Well, I was actually not sure if it really was a misreading. Maybe I read it wrong. I mean, HE states it was a misreading, but it was a nice way for him to make BM look scum, or at least create some chaos/random shit. If scum has infiltrators in BM, they might have known or guessed at that point that BM has no goal (do they?). Onegu/Stutters is that possible with the timing, when did it seem to you that BM had no goal (if it is allowed to compare those timings)? In any case it doesn't matter that much. After it was 'clarified' as a misreading, he seems to 'attack' people for not pointing out the misreading. More chaos? He hasn't done much more since then, has he? That's maybe not much, but I have the feeling this game is about accusing/reading people for not much. If you want I'll put some more time in it when I'm back, I haven't really got the time now.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 31 2013 18:30 GMT
#1311
On September 01 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Felkyr, why arent you asking anyone questions????

He basically posted a list post. I dont like it..

Dandel town cause Dandel town, I dunno, its hard to explain. Like town rather than scum trolling.


Here is a question: Who are you? Really, just answer this question as you would like and we'll see where we get from there.

On September 01 2013 03:25 Alakaslam wrote:

/Kaslam/ Kaslam /Kaslam 333

333

333 333

333 333 333

Triforce

I recommend you not call that phone number.


I suppose that's not a 3P claim?
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 31 2013 18:34 GMT
#1313
On September 01 2013 03:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im Batman.


You're the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now? And so we'll hunt you, because you can take it? Because you're not a hero. You're a silent guardian, a watchful protector... a dark knight.

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist that. But I'm not sure if I should vote for you to support this awesome sentence.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 31 2013 23:31 GMT
#1530
Consolidating and supporting Axle's plan.

##Vote: geript
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
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