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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 05 2013 22:17 GMT
#17
On July 06 2013 06:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 06:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 06 2013 06:37 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 06 2013 06:36 cDgCorazon wrote:
So smurfs and hydras are allowed?


oh, herp derp I used the LXI OP basically. Um, I'm gonna say no to smurfs and PROBABLY no to hydras unless there's a good reason.


Hydra newbies would be really hilarious to watch though.

[image loading]

"He's scum!"

"No, he is!"


This made me laugh more than it should have. And when they actually lynch someone: "Not luck. Not luck at all."

/in
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 22:54:55
July 05 2013 22:31 GMT
#19
It says there are 3 scum, does that mean there are 3 not town players (since 3rd party show up as scum to cop), or there are 3 people specifically aligned with mafia? Or is that hidden info?

Edit: pregame color edit.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 05 2013 22:37 GMT
#21
woops, I meant to put green text, sorry mods.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 08 2013 19:08 GMT
#100
On July 09 2013 04:04 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 03:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 09 2013 03:20 hzflank wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:13 Stutters695 wrote:
Obligatory USE YOUR COACHES

We're great guys and here to help


With WoS as the scum coach, I do not think that town will need your assistance.

Uh, ouch?
Need I remind you that you won a game with Ace as the scum coach too?


I meant it as a compliment. Sometimes the greatest players are the worst coaches because you just cannot teach pure brilliance.


You better hope you're town, hz, cause you're terrible at lying.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 08 2013 19:20 GMT
#105
Well, town can't tell him apart from a godfather, so he could still get lynched. And if people agree to not lynch a survivor claim, then the godfather can wait to check for a survivor claim, and then claim it if there isn't one. So town might really want to lynch a survivor claim.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 08 2013 20:00 GMT
#117
On July 09 2013 04:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
On that note, has anyone ever seen an SK (or similarly a 3P with some sort of KP) kill scum?
I don't think I have.


Well I can't say I saw it. It was mighty dark that night, and a wave of shadow blocked my vision. But I heard it happen, I really did. Earlier that day there was a hurricane, and we'd been seeing chromatic rainbows all day. But come night time, there was an SK there in a wheelchair, like Xavier. A nightcat jumped through the alley. Suddenly the SK gets flanked by two scum, but he had a blazinghand, and shot them both. Unhinged, he stutters, "I am perfection." and rolls off into the night.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 08 2013 23:24 GMT
#121
yup. 1 slot left, I believe.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 09 2013 17:53 GMT
#138
I am guessing the game wont actually start until tomorrow.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 09 2013 21:00 GMT
#144
Alakaslam! You still got a chance!
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 09 2013 21:31 GMT
#146
On July 10 2013 06:25 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 10 2013 06:00 jrkirby wrote:
Alakaslam! You still got a chance!

Roflmao-

Cauc, consider why I am not inning here yet!

Read the last few pages of the active games list thread!

This makes 0 sense yet my good man...


Ooooooh it itches.


Did you think I'm caucasionasian? Or is there some conversation I'm missing?
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 09 2013 22:30 GMT
#151
On July 10 2013 07:25 hzflank wrote:
No wonder there are serial killers in this game.

It's probably going to wind up with no SK but BH is going to kill whoever he feels like each night and we'll all think there is one.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 10 2013 17:39 GMT
#171
Are you sure this isn't AllHailDragoonGod? Because I think you just got smashed into blue (smurf) goo.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#195
On July 12 2013 04:40 Rainbows wrote:
OP says 1. OP is correct 100% of the time.


Koshi outed into replacements. Now I know you love to make bold claims, but now's not the time.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 11 2013 19:59 GMT
#197
Obviously the game isn't going to start with Koshi in it at this time, that's fairly clear. So before this game starts, we'll need two more /in.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 12 2013 22:41 GMT
#247
Ok. I've been studying this long and hard, and I think I have enough evidence to make a clear case.

hzflank is scum

On July 09 2013 04:04 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 03:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 09 2013 03:20 hzflank wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:13 Stutters695 wrote:
Obligatory USE YOUR COACHES

We're great guys and here to help


With WoS as the scum coach, I do not think that town will need your assistance.

Uh, ouch?
Need I remind you that you won a game with Ace as the scum coach too?


I meant it as a compliment. Sometimes the greatest players are the worst coaches because you just cannot teach pure brilliance.


Clearly, hzflank is lying about this compliment. Liars are always scum. And look who he's talking to: the scum coach. Obviously he's in league with them.

He goes on, still talking to the scum:

On July 09 2013 04:22 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 04:09 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
If you vote for an hzflank lynch based on pregame meta, I will fall instantly in love with you.


Then scum should night kill the first person to vote for me, because as their lover you will also die.


This is an obvious admission that he wants town to die. Anyone who wants town to die is scum, end of story.

On July 13 2013 04:19 hzflank wrote:
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On July 13 2013 04:09 Chromatically wrote:
I won't be here for two hours after start.


Then who will call my first post scummy?


I will. Right here, right now.

And for his first post:

On July 13 2013 07:11 hzflank wrote:
So we are using a majority vote system. As we all know there is much more chance of a No Lynch with this system than with plurality voting.

I think it is in our best interest to try to lynch someone every day. This may seem a bit odd at first, because a mis-lynch is obviously better for scum than for town. However, the only way that town will win is by lynching scum, and we will never be sure if we are lynching town or scum unless the lynch actually goes through. If we narrowly fail to lynch then we end up spending the next day discussing it and do not move forward as much.

Also, scum already know who they are. When someone is lynched the alignment information from their flip benefits town, but not scum.

Therefore, I suggest we work together as much as possible to actually get lynches through, if they are in doubt.


He's trying to get us to sheep together and follow a Bandwagon instead of looking for evidence and finding scum.

Finally:

On July 13 2013 07:31 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Are there experienced players here? People that played a decent amount of games.


Everyone here has played 3 or less games.

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:
Hi all. I played 1 newbie game in the TL+ forums and I am atm also playing in the nuclear mafia game.
I am with Rainbows on the lynching of lurkers. The tl+ game got RUINED because nobody posted. So if you are town, I want you to make around 10 posts a day. Try to make posts that are aggressive and confront people with your thought. Don't be afraid to be wrong. If you are town, please consider doing this to help town and force scum to make posts.


I think it is a bit early to be thinking about policy lynches on lurkers. Policy lynching can stifle discussion and we need discussion today. Once we get 24-36 hours in then we can consider it. Also, sometimes RL just happens for a day or two.

Also, I think that there will be enough activity here. There are several players who I know will post a lot and we (the active players) cannot all die really early.


Trying to defend one of the scum who is planning to lurk.

You can't ignore all this evidence guys. hzflank is scum.

##Vote: hzflank
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 12 2013 23:11 GMT
#253
On July 13 2013 07:51 hzflank wrote:

Oh, and I assume that you are not serious about the no-lynch stuff. If that's the case then no need to mention it, but if you seriously think that no lynches would be good then I would like to hear why.


I think we should try to lynch people who we think are scum, and avoid BW sheepishly. That said, getting a consensus on lynch is definitely better than the alternative.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 12 2013 23:46 GMT
#273
On July 13 2013 08:42 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 08:33 Chromatically wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:03 Hurricane Sponge wrote:

The following was written on the contingency I got Town in my role PM. I generally don't like early Day 1 town conversations because it's 100% fluff and teasing and clouds the filters. Necessary evil? Perhaps. But let's try to kick this game into overdrive early, shall we?

Why did you include this? Are you saying you wouldn't have posted this if you were scum?


Correct. I would not have posted this particular post as scum.


But you might have posted another post starting with the same line. Or maybe you did post that as scum. But you certainly would never have said: The following was written on the contingency I got Scum in my role PM.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 12 2013 23:48 GMT
#278
On July 13 2013 08:47 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 08:46 jrkirby wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:42 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:33 Chromatically wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:03 Hurricane Sponge wrote:

The following was written on the contingency I got Town in my role PM. I generally don't like early Day 1 town conversations because it's 100% fluff and teasing and clouds the filters. Necessary evil? Perhaps. But let's try to kick this game into overdrive early, shall we?

Why did you include this? Are you saying you wouldn't have posted this if you were scum?


Correct. I would not have posted this particular post as scum.


But you might have posted another post starting with the same line. Or maybe you did post that as scum. But you certainly would never have said: The following was written on the contingency I got Scum in my role PM.


Hahaha! Very right you are, I hadn't thought of that.


So then show us the post that you would have posted if you rolled scum, eh?
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 13 2013 00:03 GMT
#286
On July 13 2013 08:54 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Umasi, stop defending me. Don't defend people in general. It's more valuable to hear them defend themselves by tenfold.

(Also, I don't want you handcuffing yourself to my ankle then flipping scum and having Town waste a bunch of time re-vetting me.)

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 08:48 jrkirby wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:47 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:46 jrkirby wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:42 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:33 Chromatically wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:03 Hurricane Sponge wrote:

The following was written on the contingency I got Town in my role PM. I generally don't like early Day 1 town conversations because it's 100% fluff and teasing and clouds the filters. Necessary evil? Perhaps. But let's try to kick this game into overdrive early, shall we?

Why did you include this? Are you saying you wouldn't have posted this if you were scum?


Correct. I would not have posted this particular post as scum.


But you might have posted another post starting with the same line. Or maybe you did post that as scum. But you certainly would never have said: The following was written on the contingency I got Scum in my role PM.


Hahaha! Very right you are, I hadn't thought of that.


So then show us the post that you would have posted if you rolled scum, eh?


This is a very reasonable request, but unfortunately I will not be posting it at this time for a couple reasons. First, it's not as impressive as the one I posted. Second, I intend to stay active in this community and will probably end up using a version of it at some point when (if?) I ever get that 'You Are Scum' PM.


You ought to post it anyway. Having something that you'd post on the condition that you're scum is foolish in any respect, even if no one knows what it is. Ideally, a scum player would want to post the same way as scum as they do town in almost all situations.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 13 2013 00:22 GMT
#295
On July 13 2013 09:14 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 09:10 Chromatically wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:57 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:54 Chromatically wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:42 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:33 Chromatically wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:03 Hurricane Sponge wrote:

The following was written on the contingency I got Town in my role PM. I generally don't like early Day 1 town conversations because it's 100% fluff and teasing and clouds the filters. Necessary evil? Perhaps. But let's try to kick this game into overdrive early, shall we?

Why did you include this? Are you saying you wouldn't have posted this if you were scum?


Correct. I would not have posted this particular post as scum.

On July 13 2013 08:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:43 Rainbows wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:41 Umasi wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:33 Chromatically wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:03 Hurricane Sponge wrote:

The following was written on the contingency I got Town in my role PM. I generally don't like early Day 1 town conversations because it's 100% fluff and teasing and clouds the filters. Necessary evil? Perhaps. But let's try to kick this game into overdrive early, shall we?

Why did you include this? Are you saying you wouldn't have posted this if you were scum?

On July 13 2013 08:20 Rainbows wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:07 StiMaDDict wrote:
I can only look at jrkirby's post as a pressure vote at this point. He didn't seem to be the type to joke around from the pre game though.


This post is scummy. Gives a reason for jkirbys post and then casts doubt on it. U scum?

I'd be very interested in hearing your explanation as to why you honestly think this is scummy.


I certainly wouldn't post that if I were scum, it is nothing but a good thing for town. Why WOULD he want to post that as scum?


to look town. Scum love to spew general pro town thingsvto get ez town cred..



This is correct. In general, these sorts of posts should result in a null read in a veteran game. But Early Day 1, when it's generally assumed nothing interesting is happening, seemed like a good time to get PSA's out of the way for a newbie crowd.

The info is valuable, but it should not get me town cred. It's more important to me that there's a town consensus on the actual content of the post, not my alignment. (Plenty of time for that later.)

You obviously think that your post was pro town, right? That's why you shouldn't have posted it as scum.

But then you say that you shouldn't get town cred from it, indicating that you don't think it's pro town.

?


Pro town in a newbie game, yes. Probably wouldn't have posted it in a Veteran game unless I really felt the Day 1 conversation stagnating early.

I think all my posts are pro-town. Otherwise, why would I post them? (That should apply to everyone but those with a severe inferiority complex.)

That doesn't answer the point. The point is that your logic is inconsistant.

You say that you wouldn't have posted this as scum. Why? You think that the post is valuable enough to town that scum wouldn't want to post it. You think that only a townie would post it.

However, you say that you shouldn't get a town read for it, even though you think that only town would post it.


I'm not in the business of telling people I'm town. I'm going to scumhunt and try to win this game, and a byproduct of that should be that people will view me as town.

Put another way: I don't believe posting specifically with the goal of acquiring towncred is particularly helpful in anything but circumstances where I could be mislynched. I'm prioritizing getting the Town ducks in a row here in the early going so we can move on to the scumhunt, not establishing my Townie-ness.

Interestingly, people (Chrom and jrkirby) have seemed more interested in analyzing why I posted rather than what I posted. Can I infer by this that we largely agree with what I have said?


Pretty much what you said was: meta is bad, this is the meta that I might accidentally do. That's fine, neither particularly good nor bad imo. But you claimed that you would only post it on the condition that you were town. You admit to having a post that you would post on the condition that you're scum (which I think is foolish), but you won't show it to us, and that's just a tiny bit suspicious.
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