Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV

On July 13 2013 08:03 Hurricane Sponge wrote:

The following was written on the contingency I got Town in my role PM. I generally don't like early Day 1 town conversations because it's 100% fluff and teasing and clouds the filters. Necessary evil? Perhaps. But let's try to kick this game into overdrive early, shall we?

On July 13 2013 08:20 Rainbows wrote:


This post is scummy. Gives a reason for jkirbys post and then casts doubt on it. U scum?

On July 13 2013 08:42 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


Correct. I would not have posted this particular post as scum.

On July 13 2013 08:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


This is correct. In general, these sorts of posts should result in a null read in a veteran game. But Early Day 1, when it's generally assumed nothing interesting is happening, seemed like a good time to get PSA's out of the way for a newbie crowd.

The info is valuable, but it should not get me town cred. It's more important to me that there's a town consensus on the actual content of the post, not my alignment. (Plenty of time for that later.)

On July 13 2013 08:57 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


Pro town in a newbie game, yes. Probably wouldn't have posted it in a Veteran game unless I really felt the Day 1 conversation stagnating early.

I think all my posts are pro-town. Otherwise, why would I post them? (That should apply to everyone but those with a severe inferiority complex.)

On July 13 2013 08:41 Rainbows wrote:


It's scummy because it's renouncing jkirbys jokepost while he gave a reason for it. He never explains why this joking around is suspicious just passively finger points.

I want to hear elaboration.

On July 13 2013 09:21 Rainbows wrote:


The point is he is finger pointing without actually doing anything like asking a question.

I want to hear his response

On July 13 2013 09:26 Chromatically wrote:

It sounded like you had two points.

1) "It's scummy because it's renouncing jkirbys jokepost while he gave a reason for it." (inconsistency)
2) "He never explains why this joking around is suspicious just passively finger points." (finger pointing)

On July 13 2013 09:25 StiMaDDict wrote:
Another thing that is annoying the fuck out of me is that how Rainbow "interpreted" my post. This is what I wrote.


Explanation: I find a pressure vote to be a strategy for some people. It works sometimes but not all the times. jrkirby's "case" really is not something of content to be honest. I assumed that it was pressure vote to get some discussions going. So that is what I said. As for the second sentence, his "case" is really fucking bullshit, so there are two possibilities. Either he is joking around or he suck at scumhunting.

On July 13 2013 09:52 Rainbows wrote:


I assume pressure vote = town move and then he says jkirby is joking which is unlike him = scummy?

two separate feels imo.

On July 13 2013 10:03 Rainbows wrote:


The reason I thought it scummy.

It's hard to say how I thought about it, but then again I post rather sporadically with random thoughts.

On July 13 2013 09:21 Rainbows wrote:


The point is he is finger pointing without actually doing anything like asking a question.

I want to hear his response

On July 13 2013 10:24 StiMaDDict wrote:

Your point, reasonable. Looking back at it, I see that I made a mistake. Either I should have added my complete thought process as, "He made a bullshit case and voted. This is a pressure vote or joke vote. He does not seem to be a guy who jokes around, therefore it is a pressure vote." or I should not have added the second sentence.

So yes, I wanted to point out that it was pressure vote to everyone and then I was going to ask jkirby for an elaboration and/or his intention for the post to confirm my analysis, but I had to write an elaboration of my own for Rainbow.

On July 13 2013 10:26 Rainbows wrote:
Chromatically you're confusing me lol.

They're all the same reason juat articulated differently.

On July 13 2013 10:47 Umasi wrote:
(for your information, I'm pretty null on everybody except for Superfluous and Nightcat, who I think are on the scummier side of the meter.)

On July 13 2013 10:49 StiMaDDict wrote:
I may be biased but I put Chromatically as the most capable scumhunter. In last game, he pretty much had the whole scum team Day1. It goes without saying that I do not Chromatically's alignment as of right now.

@Chromatically Your current scum reads?

On July 13 2013 10:05 Superfluous wrote:


At the moment no, as I said I was gone for a couple hours then came back and just skimmed through the thread . I mean to go through it again in more detail once I'm finished defending myself or w/e. Two things are on my mind though. One is that I think you are town (not just to suck up to you b/c you are pressuring me). Reasons being that in my personal experience those who are most aggressive are generally town, and also that this is a semi-noob game so I'm unsure if a mafia would have the confidence to go out and control the game/ put pressure on early on. Another thing is that I dont think I've seen much (if anything) from Cloud 9. He may be in same situation as me and I'll give him Benefit of the doubt though.

On July 13 2013 10:32 jrkirby wrote:


Honestly? I have real trouble seeing scum until I see voting patterns. I'm slightly more suspicious of Sponge, Umasi, and Rainbows than the rest. Sponge I've stated my reasons for. I don't really trust my read on Rainbows because [meta here] I thought he was scum last time I played with him and he wasn't. Umasi just reads a bit ornery, so that could be the reason for my weak read.

My vote on hzflank was kinda a combo of joke/pressure as you guys pointed out. It got a bit of discussion, but didn't get much of a rise out of hzflank, who I currently have null read on.

I guess I should unvote him now, since the pressure obviously didn't do too much.

##unvote: hzflank