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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 01 2013 19:49 GMT
#26
i'll /in, for the first time in months.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 02 2013 23:15 GMT
#28
So when's this starting?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 06 2013 23:26 GMT
#278
Hey guys, first time playing mafia in a long time. What's the win condition this game? Just stay alive and nuke/lynch scum, yeah? I can't find it written anywhere but I assume that's right?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#289
On July 07 2013 08:29 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 08:26 johnnywup wrote:
Hey guys, first time playing mafia in a long time. What's the win condition this game? Just stay alive and nuke/lynch scum, yeah? I can't find it written anywhere but I assume that's right?


follow me, I'll lead you to victory

yeah not following you blindly. Though I do remember liking you from the mafia games i played a while back.

also, you didn't answer my question.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 06 2013 23:39 GMT
#297
On July 07 2013 08:36 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 08:33 johnnywup wrote:
On July 07 2013 08:29 Ace wrote:
On July 07 2013 08:26 johnnywup wrote:
Hey guys, first time playing mafia in a long time. What's the win condition this game? Just stay alive and nuke/lynch scum, yeah? I can't find it written anywhere but I assume that's right?


follow me, I'll lead you to victory

yeah not following you blindly. Though I do remember liking you from the mafia games i played a while back.

also, you didn't answer my question.


Win Condition is to own souls

what are you talking about? is there really no straight answer :| okay whatever just scum hunt, got it.

and:

"It is Day 1! Deadline is Saturday, Jun 08 2:59pm PDT (GMT-07:00)" <- june 8th isn't saturday
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 06 2013 23:56 GMT
#316
Okay to be honest guys I don't see any scumtells out of anyone so far. Seems like you're all just drawing lots of focus to stuff that doesn't actually tell you anything. THAT'S the scummiest thing I've seen as of yet.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 00:00 GMT
#322
On July 07 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
johnnywup, how much mafia have you played?

I've played like 3-5 games before this but I think they were like a year ago
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 00:31 GMT
#360
On July 07 2013 09:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: johnnywup

dat filler opening post. There's no reason to ask about the win condition in the thread when you can simply PM a mod/read the OP.

Seems like a scum entrance to me.

Damn, that tunnel. Do you have any reason that I'm scum other than that I asked a question about win conditions? Win conditions are, well, pretty important in a game where you want to win. And for the record, I did PM a mod but I wasn't given an answer.

On July 07 2013 09:04 Xatalos wrote:
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On July 07 2013 08:56 johnnywup wrote:
Okay to be honest guys I don't see any scumtells out of anyone so far. Seems like you're all just drawing lots of focus to stuff that doesn't actually tell you anything. THAT'S the scummiest thing I've seen as of yet.


Who are you implying is scummy based on that?

(As a sidenote, how can there be no scumtells and yet be scummy activity at the same time........)


What I mean is that it's somewhat scummy for people to tunnel on random shit but I don't think that indicates scum atm. I'm saying that that, a relatively small thing imo, is the most major thing that has indicated scum so far for me, which isn't much. As such I didn't really think anyone's been really scummy. Though since then a lot of shit has happened so I'll have to revise that statement lol...
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 00:40 GMT
#367
On July 07 2013 09:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
doesn't Z-boson just look like a name that's going to flip scum?

what the fuck are you talking about? I just checked your filter and your criticism of my asking the rules as my first post was YOUR first post. What are you even doing this game?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 01:42 GMT
#401
I now remember why I stopped playing mafia, lol. Sorry if I look like scum, I haven't played in a looong time and even then I was terrible and always looked scummy as town.

On July 07 2013 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
ALL ABOARD THE TRAIN OF JUSTICE
WOO WOOOOOOO!!!
##Vote: johnnywup

Why wait until two others voted me to vote me? You already thought I was scum.

I really do think vayne is scummy atm though. Nothing productive at all. (say what you want about me but you can't deny that vayne hasn't done shit). Look through his filter. I don't know if he's just lazy/bad town or purposefully doing nothing but not liking him :\

WoS is also not looking very good for me atm but I can't really put a finger to why. His sarcasm is questionable for me and obviously I don't like him voting for me (don't like anyone voting for me though, obviously). The only constructive post he has is the one that targets me, which is good, but for the rest of his filter he's sarcastic, talking about other games, etc. I don't know.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 04:37 GMT
#406
On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.
It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

could you please stop shitting up this thread?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 14:59 GMT
#463
Okay, caught up reading since last night and reread some filters. A couple things:

andel Ion said he's going to stop posting during dayphase which is pretty stupid. I mean, of course an excuse to not post is scummy as hell but I don't think he would be stupid enough to do that if he was scum >_>

*I'd like him, Ghost_403, Oatsmaster, Stutters695, Z-Boson, Abenson, MajuGarzett, Strongandbig, gumshoe (he has posted a bit...but not about the game at hand...), CaucasianAsian, Nirvana.Gabo, FirmTofu all to start posting more. They haven't really given us any content to go off of. And that's like half the people in the game...

*I'm not sure what to think about Chezinu's nuke and it makes no sense to me, so I'm not going to try to make sense of it for now.

Oh crap, I just noticed Abenson voted me without saying in thread >_>. Would you like to give your reasons? You have given no indication of any opinion at all in this thread. I'd like you to tell me what you think about everyone.

There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression.

I've felt pretty strongly about WoS being scum since last night so I'm going to go ahead and put my vote there

##vote WaveofShadow
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 15:09 GMT
#466
Shitty gutread? Maybe. But at least I'm voting scum. You're trying to start a bandwagon on an obvious townie.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 15:26 GMT
#470
I know I'm not very good at mafia. But what you need to understand is that NOTHING that I've done says scum over bad townie. I am a bad townie. I can see why I'm probably a good lynch for day 1. I can see why I'm being bandwagonned. It's because it's so easy for scum to tunnel bad townies.

If you can find something that I've done that screams scum over bad townie, go for my lynch (hint: there is none). I may be the best lynch even lacking that. But when I flip town (assuming I'm lynched), know that it was as much your fault as scum, townies, for following this bandwagon. Oh yeah, and WoS is the one who is trying to push it in a major way, more than anyone else.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 16:08 GMT
#480
These are the posts that WoS has made that have any value whatsoever:

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 07 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Geript town
Gumshoe town
Not sure on everyone else yet
Be back again sooooooooooooooooooooon


On July 07 2013 09:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU!
Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-.

Nobody listen to this.

This is what loses town high kp games. People need to sit back and chill the fuck out. Xat is most likely dead, now lets not do anything rash.

No, what loses town high KP games is the fact that townies or scum shoot town.
Xatalos is the fucking towniest guy in thread besides gumshoe.
You are probably scum for questioning me besides Chezinu's reasons for nuking Xata.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Chezinu

Congratulations, you may be the dumbest person currently playing this game.

You're also easily the scummiest. You start off super defensive, then proceed to shit up the thread with a dumb argument and then go after chez who is a pretty easy (but incredibly bad) target since he launched a nuke. Then you omgus.

I'd be down a for a rayn lynch.

Dandel, wos, austin, geript lets get some input here.

Nope, not ready to lynch Rayn---I can read him pretty decently for the most part I feel so I'm gonna let him stick around. I remember thinking someone else was pretty scummy actually (and I still think it's MORE likely that Chez is scum than he isn't but whatever)...oh yeah, johnnywup.

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On July 07 2013 08:56 johnnywup wrote:
Okay to be honest guys I don't see any scumtells out of anyone so far. Seems like you're all just drawing lots of focus to stuff that doesn't actually tell you anything. THAT'S the scummiest thing I've seen as of yet.

This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat.


On July 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
You know what's funny?
Both of the people voting for me currently have provided absolutely zero reasoning as to why I'm scum.
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 10:42 johnnywup wrote:
I now remember why I stopped playing mafia, lol. Sorry if I look like scum, I haven't played in a looong time and even then I was terrible and always looked scummy as town.

On July 07 2013 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
ALL ABOARD THE TRAIN OF JUSTICE
WOO WOOOOOOO!!!
##Vote: johnnywup

Why wait until two others voted me to vote me? You already thought I was scum.

I really do think vayne is scummy atm though. Nothing productive at all. (say what you want about me but you can't deny that vayne hasn't done shit). Look through his filter. I don't know if he's just lazy/bad town or purposefully doing nothing but not liking him :\

WoS is also not looking very good for me atm but I can't really put a finger to why. His sarcasm is questionable for me and obviously I don't like him voting for me (don't like anyone voting for me though, obviously). The only constructive post he has is the one that targets me, which is good, but for the rest of his filter he's sarcastic, talking about other games, etc. I don't know.

Show nested quote +

There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 07:20 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:15 geript wrote:
True I did have to NK you that game. So other than Vayne, who's the best lynch? You down for lynching Dandel too? I'm pretty tempted by Rayn as well.

I'd be down for a rayn lynch since he defended his scumbuddy WoS.

WoS I don't have a real read on yet. But I'm not happy with how he didn't make a response to my luv tunnel comment. He normally would joke back at that.

Rayn is not acting all towny rayn and acting far more like Hydra 2 just getting in the way.

This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me.

Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript.





EVERYTHING else has been sarcasm/joking/talking about other games/trying to get people to bandwagon me/etc. I'll skip the first post because it's only arguably substantial. I mean, the other two are somewhat large posts (mostly because of the quotes) but all he really says is

-quote- "This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat."


Which doesn't really say anything either. He is obviously wanting to get people against me at this point but isn't willing to come straight out and say I'm scum. And even what he's saying isn't that substantial...he missed what I was saying.



"-quote-
So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh.
-quote-
This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me.

Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript."


Don't you see it? HE'S NOT SAYING ANYTHING. He skips over everything I said and said "lol so ur calling me bad. ur scum" And he's not speculating on anything either, he's just saying "wow this is fishy! 2 people are voting me!" He hasn't made any post that says anything.

This is every single post. He hasn't really done anything this whole game except say I'm scum. And I'm not scum. So the fact that he's focusing every single post on me is more than a little fishy for me.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 23:47 GMT
#663
Okay I've been semi-following the thread since earlier today but on my phone so I just recently caught up. Still not liking WoS from what I've seen. I'm going to do the MZ likely/unlikely scum thing with my reasons. It will be 1-10, with 10 being town and 1 being scum

+ Show Spoiler +


Meapak_Ziphh - Mostly level headed, scum hunts, but his current wanting to lynch Dandel is somewhat iffy for me. I mean, I think Dandel is more scummy than most of the other inactives...but there are other actives to look at :\ I wouldn't completely oppose it though. Anyways,
6.5/10

Ace - He hasn't really done much. When I used to play mafia he was one of the more active players I seem to remember (I only played with him town I believe, I don't think I was ever scum) but this game is... nothing. I think this probably indicates just lack of interest or something rather than being scum, but I can't be sure. Can't really read anything with him, but definitely want him to be somewhat more active.
5/10

MajuGarzett - Was going to put him in "Needs to post-tier" but he recently made a large post so I'll touch on him briefly. His arguments aren't really stirring my interest. I've got a town read on Vayne. And his argument on Onegu just isn't there for me. If Onegu was scum, it seems more likely that he would wait for a reply to see if it's something people agree with. His arguments aren't very strong for me so:
4/10

Onegu - I really don't have much an opinion on Onegu. He hasn't posted anything of substance really, but he hasn't tripped any scum wires with me either. I'd like him to more actively hunt scum (and give opinions on people other than Chez)
4.5

Geript - Actively posting thoughts and reads, pushing people for answers, etc. One of the most townie people in thread IMO.
7.5/10

VayneAuthority - He leaves much to be desired for sure but he seems genuine and unafraid. I'd prefer he'd be more active but he seems townie enough.
5.5/10

StrongandBig - read his filter...
3/10

Gumshoe - He seems sort of nooby and hasn't been doing much. I don't really like his way of playing currently, but he definitely looks more nooby than scummy atm. Not sure though, he could really be either.
5/10

OriginalName - His hopping on the bandwagon for me seems to come at a perfect time for scum, I think. Additionally, he goes from voting for me to saying he'll probably hop off, all in under an hour. He just seems to be agreeing with people and not putting any additional thoughts out there...scummy as hell.
3/10

TanGeng - He also hops on my bandwagon with no reasons why, at a good time for scum. He also hasn't been scumhunting...like at all. He's just saying that other people have been doing scumhunting and he agrees. No real reads out of him. Feeling scum.
3/10

Xatalos - Hope I don't have to explain, but he's like really townie.
9/10

Alakaslam - Active as fuck pregame, less active during the game but okay. His "martyring" was a little strange but I don't really think anything of it. He needs to post more of his thoughts though. He really has been just sliding by without saying much, which seems scummy but eh I dunno. Seems more scummy than towny.
4/10

WaveofShadow - Active as fuck when tunneling me but goes a lot more inactive when the bandwagon starts to fall off. Then he discards his bandwagon as "eh, he's probably town, whatever". Since then, he hasn't done much, hiding under the shadows sharing no opinions...But I have to admit that there are probably better options.
4/10

raynpelikoneet - active, a little iffy here and there, but mostly a town read from him. definitely not a good lynch target.
6/10

Nirvana.Gabo - Not liking him one bit. He votes Onegu because he doesn't like his read. Nirvana says Chezinu is a crazy guy like its common knowledge and that by even suggesting that Chezinu is scum that Onegu must be scum. So, yeah, Nirvana's looking pretty scummy for me.
3.5/10

FirmTofu - seems like he should have his "mega post" out by now, but I won't say that's scummy. He hasn't been very active but looks to be more active now, so I'll reserve my judgement on him...

5/10

Chezinu - I have no fucking idea
I have no fucking idea

austinmcc - seems to be chasing nothing. I'd like him to be more active -- not in posting -- but in actually giving thought out opinions on people. He's leaning scum on me because he really hasn't contributed much...
4.5/10



Needs to post-tier (null unless bold which is at least somewhat more scummy than the other inactives) - Dandel Ion, Ghost_403, Oatsmaster, Stutters695, Z-BosoN, Abenson, CaucasianAsian, jampidampi,

Wow, going through filters is depressing. It shows how many people don't post at all ffs
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 08 2013 00:02 GMT
#667
On July 08 2013 08:59 Z-BosoN wrote:
Why is no one saying hi to me?

I thought you were catching up on the thread? Don't you think that's more important than being greeted? What are your opinions on everything going on? Who's scum?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 08 2013 00:04 GMT
#671
On July 08 2013 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 08:48 austinmcc wrote:
On July 08 2013 08:41 Alakaslam wrote:
And finally, Mepak_ziph makes a good enough case against Raynpelikoneet that I am down for his lynch today.
His case feels a little weak:
On July 08 2013 05:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
austin, geript, xata, and anyone else who asked me a question, I'm still here. I was trying to write a case on rayn but I was finally forced to admit that stupidity is not a scumtell and there's really no logical evidence yet that he's scum. I am in no way certain he's town, but right now I can't in good faith write a case on him that would convince me if I was an objective observer. Perhaps in a day things will clear up but for now he's null.

I'm gonna go answer your questions now.



Vote is based on the exchanges they had too.

However I now conclude that rayn is just bad at defending. He has genuinely contributed pretty good info (just took a stroll through his filter). So even though it looks a little scummy to some types to act wishy washy like this I lift this vote.

jeez dude that flip flop. what's up? what do you actually think? who should be lynched?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 08 2013 00:06 GMT
#673
Ace: I addressed that I do think that there are probably better candidates for lynching than WoS. I also did look at tangeng (look at that big post I just made) and I don't think there's enough to go on for Abenson.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 08 2013 01:34 GMT
#713
Whether or not he's a smurf is irrelevant. Focus on actions, not meta. Don't try to figure out who it is because that's a waste of effort that could be used to hunt scum.
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