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MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 01 2013 02:43 GMT
#25
/in
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 05 2013 04:49 GMT
#119
On July 05 2013 13:40 TanGeng wrote:
/in ? has this started?

Nope, it starts Saturday.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 04:52:42
July 05 2013 04:52 GMT
#120
On July 05 2013 13:49 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 13:40 TanGeng wrote:
/in ? has this started?

Nope, it starts Saturday, July 6th.

I clicked quote instead of edit by mistake.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 06 2013 23:22 GMT
#272
On July 07 2013 08:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 08:17 Xatalos wrote:
On July 07 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 08:05 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:


Second: What? That was about M_Z.

So write more clearly.

rofl, this is the full set of quotes which you failed to provide:
On July 07 2013 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:41 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:15 geript wrote:
True I did have to NK you that game. So other than Vayne, who's the best lynch? You down for lynching Dandel too? I'm pretty tempted by Rayn as well.

I'd be down for a rayn lynch since he defended his scumbuddy WoS.

@ geript: What do you think about this?

I don't think MZ as scum would post as carelessly as that. What do you think about it?

I do not see a town motive for not reading the thread. Do you?


On July 07 2013 07:48 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe is supertown.

explain. This is like the scummiest statement you've made so far.

Why?

You have a supertown read on a person who I consider to be completely null. I want you to explain that shit so that I can either A understand the read or B call you scum for having a town read on a completely null player. Capice.

So, as town you would like me to explain my read in case i can read gumshoe better than you.
In here you are trying to paint me as mafia because i said something you did not understand.

scum.


Why call gumshoe supertown if you can't even give any reasonable explanation for doing that?

I do not give explanations unless asked if i don't like to. Noone has asked me about that.
Why are you defending geript?
What do you think of our exchange?

He basically asked you reasons for your read and then you responded by saying no one asked you for reasons instead of giving some.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 07 2013 00:10 GMT
#330
On July 07 2013 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:00 Ace wrote:
You already know I don't give strong reads most of the time so don't act surprised.






I consider Xatalos town atm by the way


Actually Xatalos is almost definitely town.

so why are you nuking him?
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 07 2013 22:35 GMT
#656
Ok, just caught up, sorry for being inactive

One of the people I find scummy is Vayne. He voted pretty early based off of one post and after that hasn't done much.
On July 08 2013 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:31 geript wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:26 geript wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen him make sense as either alignment. But I think it was a newbie game and another game or two (as town) where he came off as super arrogant. I don't see that at all here. I also don't see how his conspiracy theories make him town. Normally, I would agree that that type of this tends to be a newbie town tell, but I don't see any real convoluted aspect to them. His thought process is just so intentionally murky to me that I don't like it in addition to the random meta bonus. But eh,

Can we at least both agree that NirvanaMonkey should be lynched if he doesn't do shit other than his one previous post?


I play differently in every single game so meta'ing me with a pretty bad choice. I will agree that the posted you quoted is intentionally scummy, I was trying to bait scum into trying to make some shitty case on it but I don't really think you're scum so it didn't work that well.

Stop wasting your time and my time then. Just scum hunt and make your thought process clear. Who are your top scum targets and why?


Right now im looking at johnny and Caucasian. I already placed my vote/reasoning on johnny if you filter me so now to caucasian...

filler post then the old I'm drunk thing so I can't help town.

When do drunk posts ever turn back town unless it's like BH? It's such a cop out. If you're drunk don't post or at least try harder then that.

If he's town I really have no regrets as he is giving us nothing to work with


That post is the most of his thoughts he's given and all it is is repeating that he suspects Johnny and then making a read on somebody with no meaningful posts.

I feel he voted early to look eager in looking for scum and is trying to use that to go under the radar. To me it seems like little output from about 20 posts.


I agree with the suspicion about Onegu.

On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu


Here he says we need answers from Chezinu or Chezinu should be lynched but then votes in the same post. Why not wait and see if there's a reply? I think he might just be trying to start a bandwagon.

On July 08 2013 01:07 Onegu wrote:
Johnny has mostly posted fluff, but so have I (first game as town), but I dont see any lynchable offenses yet.

And here he justifies fluff posting as being new to the game. I don't think that makes sense, regardless of experience, its not hard to take some time between posts to write something constructive instead of just spouting fluff

##Vote: Onegu

Looking at Abenson's filter, it's hard to say much from 2 posts and since both posts are close together he might just be busy, but he really avoided saying anything about anyone.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 08 2013 04:10 GMT
#792
On July 08 2013 12:56 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 07:35 MajuGarzett wrote:
Ok, just caught up, sorry for being inactive

One of the people I find scummy is Vayne. He voted pretty early based off of one post and after that hasn't done much.
On July 08 2013 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:31 geript wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:26 geript wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen him make sense as either alignment. But I think it was a newbie game and another game or two (as town) where he came off as super arrogant. I don't see that at all here. I also don't see how his conspiracy theories make him town. Normally, I would agree that that type of this tends to be a newbie town tell, but I don't see any real convoluted aspect to them. His thought process is just so intentionally murky to me that I don't like it in addition to the random meta bonus. But eh,

Can we at least both agree that NirvanaMonkey should be lynched if he doesn't do shit other than his one previous post?


I play differently in every single game so meta'ing me with a pretty bad choice. I will agree that the posted you quoted is intentionally scummy, I was trying to bait scum into trying to make some shitty case on it but I don't really think you're scum so it didn't work that well.

Stop wasting your time and my time then. Just scum hunt and make your thought process clear. Who are your top scum targets and why?


Right now im looking at johnny and Caucasian. I already placed my vote/reasoning on johnny if you filter me so now to caucasian...

filler post then the old I'm drunk thing so I can't help town.

When do drunk posts ever turn back town unless it's like BH? It's such a cop out. If you're drunk don't post or at least try harder then that.

If he's town I really have no regrets as he is giving us nothing to work with


That post is the most of his thoughts he's given and all it is is repeating that he suspects Johnny and then making a read on somebody with no meaningful posts.

I feel he voted early to look eager in looking for scum and is trying to use that to go under the radar. To me it seems like little output from about 20 posts.


I agree with the suspicion about Onegu.

On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu


Here he says we need answers from Chezinu or Chezinu should be lynched but then votes in the same post. Why not wait and see if there's a reply? I think he might just be trying to start a bandwagon.

On July 08 2013 01:07 Onegu wrote:
Johnny has mostly posted fluff, but so have I (first game as town), but I dont see any lynchable offenses yet.

And here he justifies fluff posting as being new to the game. I don't think that makes sense, regardless of experience, its not hard to take some time between posts to write something constructive instead of just spouting fluff

##Vote: Onegu

Looking at Abenson's filter, it's hard to say much from 2 posts and since both posts are close together he might just be busy, but he really avoided saying anything about anyone.


Meaning if he answed the questions I will unvote him.

##:UNVOTE

He hasn't answered about his nuke choice though. He just changed the subject by talking about his role. He explained why he launched a nuke but not why he launched it at Xata.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 08 2013 05:20 GMT
#805
On July 08 2013 13:42 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 11:41 Chezinu wrote:
On July 08 2013 11:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2013 11:34 Chezinu wrote:
On July 08 2013 11:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2013 11:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
johnnywup
NG
caucasianasian

horrible try again

also Chez a little more explanation plz.

Have you ever felt compelled to do someone?

That's a personal questions chez...

Let's say you had a nuke coming at you. What would you do in order to survive?


This is his reason for launching at xata I think, I think he means xata launched at him so he launched back.


Show nested quote +
If I didn't pass the potato.. my hands would have burned.


And here is the reason he launched.

It seems that launched nukes are announced and the only nukes detected have been the ones at Xata and M_Z. Regardless of whether you're right or not, he's still avoiding giving a real answer.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 08 2013 08:38 GMT
#882
On July 08 2013 17:20 Alakaslam wrote:
MajuGarzett, tunnel much, hmm?

On Onegu? His vote switch seemed to fit with my read, it would be dumb not to point it out. What would be the point in not highlighting evidence? And it seemed the most relevant topic in the thread at the time.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 09 2013 00:33 GMT
#1464
On July 09 2013 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That was sarcasm, you bought Chezinu's revenge nuke on Xatalos, why is this one different?

So then give an actual reason why you launched a nuke at MZ despite telling people to nuke Chez and lying about not having a nuke.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 09 2013 09:50 GMT
#1594
On July 09 2013 18:41 CaucasianAsian wrote:

Did WaveofShadow explain why he redirected from Meapak?

Not really.

On July 09 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm a one-shot Hacker. I can redirect any nuke anywhere else once in the game.
I've had a pretty decent townread on MZ for most of the game. Yes it's possible it's a fake nuke and MZ is scum (I find this a little unlikely) but then if the nuke IS fake we find out when I redirect it and it doesn't hit.

Either way I'm thinking of redirecting to NG.


That's basically all he said on the matter before sending in the redirect.

@Xata: I'll try to be more decisive in the future, I feel that's just how I speak though.

I know Rayn or someone asked for reads on WoS and MZ but its really late so I'll do it when I wake up.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 09 2013 10:00 GMT
#1601
On July 09 2013 18:54 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 18:50 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 09 2013 18:41 CaucasianAsian wrote:

Did WaveofShadow explain why he redirected from Meapak?

Not really.

On July 09 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm a one-shot Hacker. I can redirect any nuke anywhere else once in the game.
I've had a pretty decent townread on MZ for most of the game. Yes it's possible it's a fake nuke and MZ is scum (I find this a little unlikely) but then if the nuke IS fake we find out when I redirect it and it doesn't hit.

Either way I'm thinking of redirecting to NG.


That's basically all he said on the matter before sending in the redirect.

@Xata: I'll try to be more decisive in the future, I feel that's just how I speak though.

I know Rayn or someone asked for reads on WoS and MZ but its really late so I'll do it when I wake up.


I think you missed WOS's explanation. Aren't you reading the thread? Obviously scum.

On July 09 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm a one-shot Hacker. I can redirect any nuke anywhere else once in the game.
I've had a pretty decent townread on MZ for most of the game. Yes it's possible it's a fake nuke and MZ is scum (I find this a little unlikely) but then if the nuke IS fake we find out when I redirect it and it doesn't hit.

Either way I'm thinking of redirecting to NG.

On July 09 2013 01:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 01:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 09 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm a one-shot Hacker. I can redirect any nuke anywhere else once in the game.
I've had a pretty decent townread on MZ for most of the game. Yes it's possible it's a fake nuke and MZ is scum (I find this a little unlikely) but then if the nuke IS fake we find out when I redirect it and it doesn't hit.

Either way I'm thinking of redirecting to NG.

While I appreciate the thought it may be better to save your power until later in the game.

Although now that you've claimed you'll probably get killed tonight anyway -_-

I doubt it.
:D

On July 09 2013 01:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well shit, Rayn's on board.
DONE DEAL LADIES.

On July 09 2013 01:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Should be, yes.

Those were the posts between the roleclaim and the redirect so I looked at those and didn't see an explanation there, I guess I missed it somewhere else in the filter though. After that I thought most people were just ok with nuking NG.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 09 2013 20:46 GMT
#1788
I would also be down for a lynch on VA for the reasons I gave earlier as well austin's case. I don't suspect FirmToufu so that's not a problem for me. FirmTofu may have been against DI's lynch but that lynch did move pretty fast so I think that action is caution rather than trying to save his scum buddy. FT has also done a good amount of analysis.

Rayn asked me for some specific reads so here:

WoS nuke redirect I don't find scummy because if he was scum the only reason for a redirect would be to gain credit which could only be done by redirecting the nuke to scum.Also, I really doubt that he would save a scum buddy like that as if one of them dies the other is sure to be caught. WoS was also accepted that Rayn's nuke claim didn't make sense for scum quite early. I think if WoS was scum he would have tried to pressure Rayn a bit more. So WoS is probably town.

MZ is town, I don't have any evidence to the contrary and neither does anyone else I've seen.

I still suspect Onegu. Looking at his filter the only read he's given is repeating Xata is 100% town. He's said this 3 times so far and uses it as an excuse to sheep.

Rayn's claim doesn't make sense for scum so I don't suspect him.

Best lynch targets are VA, Onegu, and DI.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 09 2013 21:00 GMT
#1801
Dandel just got banned for a week. Does he just get modkilled now?
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 09 2013 21:10 GMT
#1808
On July 10 2013 05:53 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 05:46 MajuGarzett wrote:
I would also be down for a lynch on VA for the reasons I gave earlier as well austin's case. I don't suspect FirmToufu so that's not a problem for me. FirmTofu may have been against DI's lynch but that lynch did move pretty fast so I think that action is caution rather than trying to save his scum buddy. FT has also done a good amount of analysis.

Rayn asked me for some specific reads so here:

WoS nuke redirect I don't find scummy because if he was scum the only reason for a redirect would be to gain credit which could only be done by redirecting the nuke to scum.Also, I really doubt that he would save a scum buddy like that as if one of them dies the other is sure to be caught. WoS was also accepted that Rayn's nuke claim didn't make sense for scum quite early. I think if WoS was scum he would have tried to pressure Rayn a bit more. So WoS is probably town.

MZ is town, I don't have any evidence to the contrary and neither does anyone else I've seen.

I still suspect Onegu. Looking at his filter the only read he's given is repeating Xata is 100% town. He's said this 3 times so far and uses it as an excuse to sheep.

Rayn's claim doesn't make sense for scum so I don't suspect him.

Best lynch targets are VA, Onegu, and DI.
Maju, pretend you work in a nuke factory.

Who do you give your first nuke to, someone who is townie and you trust to do townie stuff with it?
Who would you give a nuke to if you want it in townie hands, but want to shake up the thread, have them do something odd with it that might spark discussion/hit scum with a longshot?
Who would you nuke with a nuke that just causes the person to post all their thoughts?

Giving the first nuke to someone I was unsure of would be more useful so I'd do that and make judgements of when they used the nuke and who they used it on. It seems Rayne would be the choice to shake up the thread considering what he did with his last nuke. I assume there was some plan behind it so if he was open about the plan it could do a lot of good. I'd use the thought nuke on Ace. In recent posts he's really only talked about Rayn and said DI is scum and avoided everything else so I wan't to see his opinions.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 09 2013 21:11 GMT
#1810
On July 10 2013 06:09 Xatalos wrote:
LOL Dandel Ion got banned? Why? Is he modkilled or replaced?

The ban reason is "stop shitting up mafia".
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 10 2013 20:41 GMT
#1969
On July 11 2013 04:34 Xatalos wrote:

Currently I'd most like to lynch MajuGarzett. He's clearly been online at various points, but has chosen to post fluff and a couple of reads here and there without actually being involved in the thread or scumhunting. Also noteworthy is the same suspicious reaction as austinmcc (a vague show of interest and then ignoring it) to rayn's claim.

##Vote MajuGarzett

While not all my posts have reads in them, I don't think its fair to call them fluff. At the very least I was trying to gain more information with which to make decisions by pressuring other players. On the reaction to Rayn, I was in the thread and expressed interest, then I left and by the time I was back all the talk about Rayn's motives had happened and after reading it I wasn't suspicious of him.

On July 11 2013 01:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh and maju I am pretty sure is scum after reading his filter, doesn't form any original reads, doesn't give reasons for why people are town, scummy response to the rayn thing etc. it's pretty bad. Of the 4 people rayn set out this is the only one I feel comfortable sheeping.

Dandel or maju today for me, gonna start a wagon on maju and see what happens

##vote: majugarzett

VA says I never formed new reads but I think I was one of the first to talk about being suspicious of VA. I know I was suspicious of him before Firm Tofu brought it up. I also think my points against Onegu were novel. I would like clarification on how I was scummy on the Rayn thing unless its for the same reasdons that Xata stated.


I'm willing to give DI's replacement some time. As there were others who suspected VA and none on Onegu

##Vote: VayneAuthority
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 11 2013 04:40 GMT
#2068
Ok guys I have a nuke.

Since it seems I might be lynched I have to use it by 10:00 GMT (+00:00) or the town loses a kill for nothing.

Who should I nuke?
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 11 2013 04:40 GMT
#2069
EBWOP

Actually town would lose a kill and a townie which is worse than nothing.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 11 2013 04:51 GMT
#2072
On July 11 2013 13:40 MajuGarzett wrote:
Ok guys I have a nuke.

Since it seems I might be lynched I have to use it by 10:00 GMT (+00:00) or the town loses a kill for nothing.

Who should I nuke?

Also I want to go to sleep before 4 AM so try to give your input quickly.
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