EPT[T] Nuclear Winter Mafia
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On July 03 2013 08:17 Dandel Ion wrote: why don't you half the amount of players, but double the amount of nukes. I would sign up in a heartbeat if he did that. | ||
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Two main people have been targeted as lynches today. Johnnywup and rayn both look like easy scum redirects. In other words, relatively weak town members that would be easy to lynch if push comes to shove. I think you should be watching any and all players on those respective wagons and see how their votes change over the course of the thread. I'm having trouble understanding this Chezinu guy. Apparently, he's a troll? I'm unfamiliar with his persona so could anyone explain? I've still gotta read his claim in detail so I'll post more about that later. | ||
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On July 08 2013 04:54 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, I've got plenty of time now and I've finally got my computer back. I have skimmed through the thread and I'd just like to point out a few things before posting my mega post(tm). Two main people have been targeted as lynches today. Johnnywup and rayn both look like easy scum redirects. In other words, relatively weak town members that would be easy to lynch if push comes to shove. I think you should be watching any and all players on those respective wagons and see how their votes change over the course of the thread. I'm having trouble understanding this Chezinu guy. Apparently, he's a troll? I'm unfamiliar with his persona so could anyone explain? I've still gotta read his claim in detail so I'll post more about that later. Scratch that. Not a lot of people actually voted for rayn, despite putting on considerable pressure. This is quite interesting and should be noted. | ||
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I just finished my analysis of Ace and am willing to provide it to you free of charge. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=15#281 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=16#312 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=16#317 soft-defends rayn. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=15#282 It is unlikely that Ace and Johnny are on a scumteam together. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=16#305 Ace has a bit of banter with rayn, leading me to believe that they are not on the same scumteam together. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=17#321 Says Xalatos is a town read for him. Ace is leaning town for me because he is cautiously defending someone who he suspects to be town(a sentiment I share). | ||
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For what it's worth, I think Dandel is mafia. I've gone through his filters, and of all the lurker's, I'd pick him to lynch. I know my opinion isn't worth much yet because I've been lurking myself, but I will try to make myself useful in the coming hours. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:28 geript wrote: @Tofu, who are your top 3 scum suspects right now and why? Busy running through filters, but I would like y'all to have a look at Dandel and Maju for now. I'll keep you posted as I find solid scum reads on more active players. | ||
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I've completed nearly all my player profiles and am ready to give geript my top three scumreads. VayneAuthority: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=17#329 Unjustified reason to vote someone. It could be a poke, but it remains unclear. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=25#495 Advocates lynching for information. Acknowledges that he could flip town. A town would push their lynch under the assumption that they were scum. Starting to focus on what will happen post-flip indicating that he doesn't want to take the heat on a town flip. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=28#554 Highlighting play that strikes him as PR. Why would town do this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=29#568 Accuses Caucasian, who seems like an easy target considering he only has one post and was drunk. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=34#669 Adds Dandel to the list of lynch targets. WaveOfShadow: His fluff extends a bit too far into the day. Most of his posts are non-contributing/restating what has already been said. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=19#375 Refers to "town players" as an entity that he is not a part of. Very scummy. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=20#383 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=20#392 Voices his opinion of Johnny based on a misinterpretation of his post, then waits for someone else to vote him before hopping on the wagon. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=24#464 Defensive post. Why is he so worried about a wagon on him if the people voting him have a bad case against him? He should be pursuing his reads, not wasting time defending himself from a "weak" wagon. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=25#482 Seems to understand scum methodology and could be trying to WIFOM us with his play. I haven't read many of his newer posts, so I will update my read of him as I continue reading. Nirvana.Gabo: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=29#566 Idiotic reason to vote Onegu. Looking for reasons to vote, instead of looking for actual scumslips. Could be a scumbuddy defense of a teammate in Chez. We will need to see the flip to know for sure. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=29#576 Mistaking newbieness for scum play. Seems to be a deliberate ploy to accuse Onegu of something that isn't there. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=31#619 Has a town read on Ace. Convenient. Reiterating what many others have already stated. I would like to pursue either a Vayne or Nirvana lynch, but would be willing to defer to a lynch of WoS. First, I need to read further into the thread to see whether he has redeemed himself or not. For now, Vote ##: VayneAuthority | ||
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I would appreciate it if any and all townies could get their shit together so we can actually play the game instead of pussyfooting around with jokes that clutter up the thread and make the entire experience less fun for those who have to sift through your bullshit. Okay, thanks. I'm through. | ||
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On July 08 2013 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Scum QT has been talking about me, that's for sure, because at that point i had something like 3 pages of filter. Assuming that, FirmTofu's statement does not make sense from scum pov, because here are my town games: TL Mafia games: LoTR Mafia - town - bombed N5 (~2years ago, my first game ever) RED Team's Prize - town (third faction) - hit by prplhz N3 Ego Mini Mafia - town - survived, won, caught Oats Boardwalk Empire Mafia: PYP - town - hit N1 TL Mafia LXI - town - hit N2 Carnival Cruise Mafia - town - hit N1 Les Mafia - town - hit N1 Basterd mini mafia - town - hit N1 Based only on that list and my assumption about scum QT, do i come out as "relatively weak town member"? When I say "weak", I mean it's easy to find dirt on you to pursue a lynch off of. That doesn't make you a bad player by any means. You attract attention, good and bad, making you a prime target for the scum. Scum also probably generally find it easy to convince others to vote for you. I obviously haven't played in all the games you mentioned, but maybe you have witnessed this phenomenon in your own games. It remains to be seen whether this is how you should play, but so far I'd say it's been working. | ||
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On July 08 2013 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: How do you even know i am weak? Do i need to be right on everything on D1 for you to consider me strong? About my reads: Yes, Chezinu at the top if he does not explain why Xata was the best target to nuke. If he gives a reasonable explanation, NG as close second. People who are town: geript, Dandel, vayne, FT, Abenson, Gumshoe, Xatalos, MZ (if he dies to nuke he is definitely gonna flip town), jampidampi (weak read),. Everyone else is null or null leaning scummy. Could you elaborate on why you think Vayne is town? If your read is weak, please have a look at my case against him and reconsider. | ||
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On July 08 2013 11:57 VayneAuthority wrote: Ok interesting. So apparently chezinu is saying his role gives him like a hot potato nuke that keeps bouncing around that you have to send at some one else? That's a pretty interesting mechanic and I really doubt he is scum now after giving us some content. People should consolidate on Dandel or Onegu if they dont like my johnny lynch. Holy banana-butthole, did anyone catch this? Why would Vayne... 1) ...automatically believe Chez when Chez explains what his role is. 2) ...confirm Chez as a town-read because Chez explained his role mechanics. 3) ...consider an "interesting mechanic" to be "content" We need to lynch this guy ASAP. | ||
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On July 08 2013 17:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also FT, did you notice MZ did the same thing with different words. I will look into it. | ||
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Scum Thought Process: Let's find the one townie that is lurking and easy to lynch; that way no one will scumhunt and we can shift pressure off of us. | ||
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