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JarJarDrinks
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@vayne - do u have any response to these? On June 04 2013 09:25 s0Lstice wrote: He's from mafiascum if you remember. To those that haven't played with vayne, he doesn't dive filters as his bread and butter as is typical around here. He is more into tapping the current flow of the thread and NK analysis. On June 04 2013 09:26 WaveofShadow wrote: He does (or at least says he does) in pretty much every game yeah. Alignment null. Vayne I hope you ARE scum this game so I can have the pleasure of fitting your head in a noose. Are you still planning on playing the same way you have in your previous games? Especially in regards to day 1? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On June 04 2013 12:15 Stutters695 wrote: I haven't really read the scum qt from Les Mis, was JJD active in there despite his lack of posting in the thread? Probably since that's generally been my scum gameplan: Lurk as much as I can get away with. Though obviously I'd have to change it up @ some point or I'd be pretty easy to read. This seems like a wierd thing to bring up. Like u could easily go look @ the QT and find out for yourself. Instead you want someone else to point it out. Especially since a few people in Les Mis mentioned that I had done that exact same thing in my previous scum game. | ||
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On June 04 2013 12:28 Zephirdd wrote: I dont think I've seen such a loaded question since Mattchew asked someone "what are the differences between your town and scum play?". Unless Vayne has been scum in every game for the past season, asking if he is going to play the same as every other game has about the same effect. If Vayne says "I wont play the same" then you ask why wont he play like his town self. If he says "I will play the same as my town games" then you say "but there is no difference between your town and scum" etc. Also Ace, either your plan sucks or I'm doing it wrong. ##unvote ##vote JarJarDrinks My point was this: Vaynes day 1 play was pretty anti-town in the first game I played w/ him where he was town. In the second game he was scum and played the exact same way and everyone gave him a free pass because it was his town meta. I'm trying to get him to be active and participate on day 1 so he can't just hide in his anti-town day 1 meta. | ||
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On June 04 2013 20:36 Zephirdd wrote: Where did I promise activity? Not saying I'm not gonna be active but I was just wondering where you got this from?Anyways, now we got two promises of activity: you ans JJD. Isnt that great? It means that if you guys look lurkish, you will look bad, but thats a nobrainer right?  Also, I responded to your accusation about me questioning vayne. Do you still think my question was "loaded" since I explained vaynes day 1 meta? | ||
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On June 04 2013 22:14 Zephirdd wrote: OK, I suppose you could read that as a promise of activity. I was really just trying to say that even if I was scum, I'd have to change up my playstyle and not continue to be a lurker.If your general scum gameplan is to lurk as much as you can, I assume that your general town plan is to NOT lurk as much as you can. It's not really a gray area; either you lurk or you don't. So I assume that you mean that you won't lurk. Or do you mean to say that you won't be active - which means you will lurk? Wouldn't that mean you would follow your general scum gameplan? | ||
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On June 04 2013 23:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Null so far I guess. Though this post itself I'm not crazy about. Whenever I see someone say "What do you think of me?" I read it as them just trying to go out of their way to prove they have nothing to hide.JJD having just played scum with me, if you had to evaluate my play thus far, what would you think? Vayne you can answer as well. | ||
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On June 05 2013 02:03 Stutters695 wrote: He certainly doesn't read as town to me. I'd like him to explain if he's just trolling or if he really believes Ace is scum.What do you guys think of Oats trolling? Just him not giving a shit or scum? Another person I'd like to hear more from is Sentinel. He voted for Vayne simply because he was the only only person he hasn't played w/. I hate crappy reasons like that. It's just as bad as voting random. (also I'm pretty sure I've also never played w/ him but I could be wrong) Also I like Zephs case against WoS. It's basically what I was trying to say about "What do you think of me?" posts. And the point about him talking about lynching a lurker @ this point makes some sense as well So I guess these are my top 3 suspects right now. | ||
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On June 05 2013 02:46 s0Lstice wrote: He's made like 3 posts. None of which looks really scummy to me.What do you think of jaybrundage, JarJar? | ||
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 I think most of stutters case is pretty weak except for this point: On June 05 2013 04:11 Stutters695 wrote: and I'm kinda surprised to see people writing it off (assumming it's true, I haven't actually checked yet). I'd like to hear from Prplz about this since he does seem to lie here:And now the meta points about Zeph's voting style: Going through his past 3 games Zeph's TL Mafia history, I see Dr. Who(Town), Mexican Standoff (Scum and No Lynching period), and Rockband Mini (SK). If he actually went and looked through his last 3 games, he's lying out his teeth, and if he meant he looked through his last 3 town games, blatant misrepresentation (3/3 on that in this case). On June 04 2013 19:25 prplhz wrote: ...looked through his last three games (all town games) and in all games those games there wasn't a single vote like this. He always has reasonable for his votes. Prplz, did you actually look through Zephs last 3 games? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On June 05 2013 07:32 jaybrundage wrote: I didn't like stutters case on prplhz as i thought prplhz's case on zep wasn't that bad. So are you thinking Zeph is scum since you somwhat like prplz case? How about stutters? Do you think he's just mistaken or are you leaning scum on him? Or like, do you have an opinion on anybody aside from the guy you're OMGUSing? | ||
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His gung-ho Ace-is-def-scum-guys push seems so contrived. I can't imagine he can actually act so cocksure, especially when his reasons are so weak. Here's his reasoning (which btw came 12 hours after his vote): On June 05 2013 13:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Lets lynch Ace guys. His contributions have been setup speculation, and a random vote on WoS, and defending mkfuba for basically no reason. Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good. He never explained his vote and he doesnt seem intent to. WAGON OF JUSTICE! I don't want to really defend Ace since he isn't exactly playing pro-town, but these reasons are terrible: - "His contributions have been setup speculation" - Ace just made one post saying we should claim and report results. Oats was the one prodding him further which forced Ace to talk more about it - "random vote on WoS." - OK, I'll agree w/ this one. Random votes are lame. I'd like to see him explain if he actually has a reason for voting WoS or if it was truly random. - "defending mkfuba for basically no reason." Here's the post he's talking about: On June 05 2013 02:04 Ace wrote: His "Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good." is dumb. How is that post supposed to make Ace look good? Ace was specifically asked what he thought and he answered. How can that possibly be seen as scummy? Not to mention the fact that there's plenty of people posting "defences" for other peopleslightly bad but nothing damning at the moment. He could easily have just left the forum after asking. | ||
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On June 05 2013 22:07 Oatsmaster wrote: Huh? Whoop OMGUS from a newbie. Wonderful. Explain why making a 'bad' case on Ace makes me scum? You voted him without explaining your vote. Something that you're accusing him of. Yes, you eventually gave your weak reasoning. I don't buy how you can be so sure of yourself with such a bad case. I feel like it's an act.And here's something else you accused him of while doing the same thing: On June 05 2013 13:17 Oatsmaster wrote: ...defending mkfuba for basically no reason. Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good. On June 05 2013 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote: So does defending 2 players in the same post make you like twice as likely to be scum?Jay does his n1 mislynch NA in like every game. Its not alignment indicative. Its likely that the most active player day 1 isnt scum so lets not lynch WoS. | ||
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On June 05 2013 22:43 slOosh wrote: Hey JJD (if it's ok to call you that), could you look into [UoN]Sentinel and rayn? Here's some thoughts I posted earlier: On June 05 2013 02:35 JarJarDrinks wrote: He's posted some since then and it doesn't seem like his vote on vayne was serious. He voted WoS and I think his reasoning was good. He's off my radar for now.Another person I'd like to hear more from is Sentinel. He voted for Vayne simply because he was the only only person he hasn't played w/. I hate crappy reasons like that. It's just as bad as voting random. (also I'm pretty sure I've also never played w/ him but I could be wrong) Rayn hasn't posted much so not all that much to analyze. He also voted WoS for reasons I think are OK. So nothing really scummy from either of these guys IMO. | ||
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On June 06 2013 02:21 Vivax wrote: This dude is even a better lynch ##Unvote ##Vote Vayne Why? | ||
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On June 06 2013 02:38 Zephirdd wrote: So what you're saying that anyone not voting for rayne is scummy? Because we are trying to vote rayn and vayne just decided wos shoukd be lynched, creating a draw in votes and making it easy for scum to switch to whoever they want. On June 06 2013 02:40 VayneAuthority wrote: x2. If I have to move my vote to WoS to keep rayne from getting lynched I will.I don't necessarily think WoS is scum as its too early to tell but if that's my only other option besides rayn, so be it. He is one of my only townreads | ||
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On June 06 2013 02:49 WaveofShadow wrote: lol wtf is this shit? How is that both JJD and Vayne have 'gut' townreads on Rayn? You're both playing the exact same way right now, terribly. You'd rather vote one person you don't think is scum over another but you won't add useful scumreads of your own? Just horseshit play. Shape up. Maybe x2ing wasn't accurate. I just agree w/ vaynes sentiment. I wont say rayn is a townread. I'll just say I haven't seen anything scummy from him @ all this game while I've seen several scummy things from you. Like for example: it seems like you know that vayne and myself are town right now when you're criticising our play. If you're town, I'd expect you to @ least think that we're scum. | ||
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On June 06 2013 02:56 Zephirdd wrote: I think it's best to kill the person I think is most likely to be scum and Rayn aint it.Vayne and JJD. You both played with scum WoS. If WoS dies, the guy who played scum with you and could asses meta reads on you wont be around. Like he just did with vayne. Do you think its worth it to kill the active player that defended your asses over the guy that said he wont do shit for 1.5 weeks? | ||
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