what bothers me most is that the game was solved on day 1, people just did not read.

There were basically four possible candidates for scum. Eccleston, HW, H3, PT. We were very misfortunate in that both PT and Eccleston got replaced, but even so, we should have simply killed all four of them and we would have won.

Instead we had some really retarded lynches. I know I contributed considerably to that by lacking confidence/time and whatnot, but we waffled between two scum day 1, killed one and then the other just got away with literally doing nothing. His replacement carried the game for him. He played it well by pretending to understand what I was saying and throwing me off. With the number of people who thought JP was scum I legitimately believed I was just being stupid.

The other thing is that out of this group, H3 looked incredibly town. He posted really stupid shit, but based on his vote pattern, his attitude/general not-give-a-fuck posting style and his activity he basically had to be town. No matter how bad you think he is you can't lynch him for simply being bad. Unfortunately there were too many reasons to believe he was town to warrant that lynch. Between Eccleston, HW, and PT, none of them did anything and they should all have been lynched early on.

The timing on day 3 for me was pretty bad too. I legitimately had to leave before deadline and I didn't think people would swing votes on to me. However it was incredibly frustrating to see everyone basically fuck off except for McGann (and MSmith was dead) who I felt was probably the only person who was properly reading the thread.

edit: also hopefully this teaches people that roleplaying != autotown. You have to analyze motives in addition to post content. If you post garbage but it's decipherable garbage, or you do it unintentionally, then it's possible you're simply trolling/misguided town. Purposely posting meaningless garbage is different.

Secondly, someone changing his/her mind is not a scumtell and never will be.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 16 2013 15:17 GMT

#1362

On June 16 2013 18:18 Palmar wrote:

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On June 16 2013 15:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
what bothers me most is that the game was solved on day 1, people just did not read.

There were basically four possible candidates for scum. Eccleston, HW, H3, PT. We were very misfortunate in that both PT and Eccleston got replaced, but even so, we should have simply killed all four of them and we would have won.

Instead we had some really retarded lynches. I know I contributed considerably to that by lacking confidence/time and whatnot, but we waffled between two scum day 1, killed one and then the other just got away with literally doing nothing. His replacement carried the game for him. He played it well by pretending to understand what I was saying and throwing me off. With the number of people who thought JP was scum I legitimately believed I was just being stupid.

The other thing is that out of this group, H3 looked incredibly town. He posted really stupid shit, but based on his vote pattern, his attitude/general not-give-a-fuck posting style and his activity he basically had to be town. No matter how bad you think he is you can't lynch him for simply being bad. Unfortunately there were too many reasons to believe he was town to warrant that lynch. Between Eccleston, HW, and PT, none of them did anything and they should all have been lynched early on.

The timing on day 3 for me was pretty bad too. I legitimately had to leave before deadline and I didn't think people would swing votes on to me. However it was incredibly frustrating to see everyone basically fuck off except for McGann (and MSmith was dead) who I felt was probably the only person who was properly reading the thread.

edit: also hopefully this teaches people that roleplaying != autotown. You have to analyze motives in addition to post content. If you post garbage but it's decipherable garbage, or you do it unintentionally, then it's possible you're simply trolling/misguided town. Purposely posting meaningless garbage is different.

Secondly, someone changing his/her mind is not a scumtell and never will be.

maybe this teaches you not to suck and not getting yourself lynched.

You're kidding, right?

I took pressure on day 1 for attacking a non-flipped scum because I didn't fully agree with the main wagon. I had to justify myself for hours because people were incapable of reading my posts.

It's not always the fault of the player who got lynched for getting lynched. Both my lynch and JP's lynch were really really stupid.

I mean come on, I got shit for changing my mind about a read! How many times do scum just go in and reason their way out of a read when they are under no pressure to do so? If you had actually played the game on days 2 and 3 instead of asking and stroking yourself off maybe you would have realized that we had the game won, but what was needed was a good dose of order. Going afk and lurking for 144 hours is not a great way to accomplish that.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 16 2013 16:24 GMT

#1366

On June 17 2013 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
I'm kinda grumpy i liked tom's play now i know it's bugs

^^

lololol

I didn't really like how much time I had nor my play particularly either, but perhaps this contributed to the fact that I could not get my reads lynched.

I think that lack of confidence really showed.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 17 2013 03:03 GMT

#1374

On June 17 2013 08:39 Hurndall3 wrote:
Adam not trying to say this in a rude way but what is your problem with my play?
If you were unable to determine my alignment than that is your own fault. I gave plently of content for a townread.

I am actually proud of my play this game and in future games I will endevour to maintain this high watermark of quality.

your play was fucking awful and you know it.

Sure, there were plenty of reasons to call you town but if there were five of you then the game would have been impossible to win. The only reason your play was even tolerable was because you were the only one who was that worthless.

Learn to play the game and dial back your ego. I'd suggest watching some newbies or reading some guides.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 17 2013 18:34 GMT

#1398

On June 17 2013 20:21 Promethelax wrote:
To begin with: my most sincere apologies for my play this game. I expect more from myself and, from Hiro's attempt at guessing my identity, I think other people do as well.

Unfortunately due to game start time I was really only getting into the swing of things as I replaced out. And I do mean that very directly, as you may have noticed (and you did since people called me out on it) I never followed through on the second half of my filter reads and updated reads on players. As I was writing up my piece on Tom, a piece which said he was town by the way, I was informed of an attempt by two people I live(d) with to get me deported and my young lady arrested. That ended up taking priority over mafia as, I am sure, you understand.

WTF DUDE HOLDING OUT ON ME

Good luck though man, that sounds scary as all hell. I hope everything goes well for you and you find time to come back and play some day again. Having taken a break this year from almost everything aside from school I can tell you that it's nice to be able to focus and sort yourself together, but you should definitely set aside time for yourself to relax and have fun with friends and whatnot. (and of course this means no stressful mafia games!)