• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:15
CET 13:15
KST 21:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship2[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage1Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16 [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RSL S3 ro16
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck? Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1792 users

The Rise of INnoVation (Two translated Interviews)

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 20:42:41
May 10 2013 18:43 GMT
#1
INnoVation is getting all the spotlights in Korea at the moment. Dailyesports and ThisisGame did two long interviews of INnoVation to documenting the rise of this great Terran player. This thread is an edited compilation of two Korean interview. There are just some highlights from the two interviews not the whole articles since the original articles are a little bit too long.

There two interviews are new ones that came out May, 3rd and May, 9th.

Sorry for the unpolished translation. But enjoy!

[image loading]

The Complete Anatomy of INnoVation: The Rise of A Tough Rookie
----------Dailyesports

In HOTS, two players got the most spotlights. They are KT.Flash and STX.INnoVation. Both players are of similar results in SPL, but based on individual league, INnoVation is now called the first Terran by many people. There is probably no denial of this.

However, a few years ago, STX.INnoVation was a representative of complete noob in SPL. His personal result was only ok during SPL 08-09 and 10-11. Even though he became the ACE player of STX Soul in the later days of SC1, his team was in bad shape. His personal performance during hybrid SPL was terrible: 3-wins and 9-losses. He had 6 SC2 games and they were all losses.


INnoVation’s rise was after the end of the hybrid SPL. And the GSL Season 5 in 2012 was the proof of his rising performance. So we interviewed STX Soul head coach to talk about the rise of this tough rookie.

STX Soul head coach: "Overall, based on SC1, INnoVation was top 1 or 2 Terran, especially during the rookie period. If it is to say that Flash's overall score was 70 during his rookie period, then INnoVation's score on macro was 90, and his strategy's score was 50, and mechanics' score was 70, during his rookie period."

"INnoVation once said to me that televised games are so difficult to adapt to."

"His result today is forged only through hard work, tear, and perspiration. I chose him only because of his macro skills back then. But he rises and work on his weak points through hard work."

"He is not a talented player. A talented player is like Nada. When I chose INnoVation, I had already found his limitations on the 'big sense of StarCraft' [not sure about how to translate], but his hard work helps him get through that."

[image loading]

INnoVation: Facing New Challenges and To Become the Rising Star
----------------ThisisGame

Who are the stars of SC2 HOTS at the moment? There are Life and Flash, but there is another strongman, that is STX. INnoVation. We went to the team house and interviewed him. It was a holiday but he was still in the team house and practicing.


INnoVation: “…I am still far from my ideal type of player. My weaknesses brought me nerves and pressures. I must do better…”

We talked about the transition from SC1 to SC2. Many players had resistance to SC2, but INnoVation was not one of them.

INnoVation: “I think SC1 is way too difficult. So I didn’t feel pressure, burden, or regret, during the transition. I only thought I need to work hard.”

“The graphics is much better. But the adaptation was hard. WoL’s Terran was more difficult to play than the other two races, so it was difficult.”

“I’m the type of player that has fast APM, good production circle, good mechanics, and good macro. So SC2 gives me more advantages than SC1.”

“WoL’s Terran was really difficult. So I was not sure whether I should have high expectation of HOTS. But the new units changed a lot of things. Terran becomes better. I’m satisfied.”

“Only two days after the release of HOTS, I needed to go to MLG. I practiced only two days and got the third place in MLG. It was fine. Terran’s macro doesn’t change much so I can adapt very quickly.”

“I don’t think I’m good at TvZ, but my teammates have been spreading the rumor that I’m good (laugh). There are tons of people who are better at TvZ. I only have higher winrates on ladder.”

“Although it’s kinda thick-skin to say this, but I can’t win when facing a great Zerg. Last time, I lost to Soulkey, right? Flash is actually better at TvZ. His maneuver and micro are really outstanding.”

“Micro is the most important thing in TvZ. Unit composition is the most important thing in TvP. But I have no clue in TvT. Medivac boost makes bio too fast. I am a little confused sometimes. My TvT is bad recently. I can't find a perfect way to do TvT.”

“I think in all the new units, widow mine is good. It has more mobility and is easier to micro than tank. As to hellbat, I can’t find the place to use it. Other Terrans use it in TvP, but I haven’t tried it. I need to do more research on that.”

“I haven’t found my style yet. So I am working on the main stream strategies.”

INnoVation said that his goal is to be a shining star who gets SPL and WCS championships. He is not satisfied at the moment and will work hard to show his skills. INnoVation thanks his fans at last and said he will how good games to satisfy the fans.


Source:
http://s.163.com/13/0503/16/8TVC6QPK00314Q8T.html
http://s.163.com/13/0511/00/8UI9SD6L00314Q8T.html
+
Zislu
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden17 Posts
May 10 2013 18:46 GMT
#2
first

User was banned for this post.
Jävla skit spel
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 10 2013 18:47 GMT
#3
“Only two days after the release of HOTS, I need to go to MLG. I practiced only two days and got the third place in MLG. It was fine. Terran’s macro doesn’t change much so I can adapt very quickly.”


Well...that achievement just became amazing holy shit..0.O Kespa pros are madness! Thanks for the interviews
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
May 10 2013 18:48 GMT
#4
overall despite what he said, I still Innovation is the best Terran and all around player in the world atm. Just a few more months of shaping up TvT and TvP then he'll dominate the scene.
AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 18:49:43
May 10 2013 18:49 GMT
#5
Innovation is a beast. my new fav player!
i balance whine all the time.
Xymos
Profile Joined July 2011
United States19 Posts
May 10 2013 18:51 GMT
#6
Hope he can win GSL this season!
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
May 10 2013 19:07 GMT
#7
On May 11 2013 03:51 Xymos wrote:
Hope he can win GSL this season!


I hope he wins too. It's a long time since we don't have a Terran GSL champion.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
May 10 2013 19:13 GMT
#8
I personally don't think anyone can beat him that's left in the GSL. Flash or Life could possibly, in a bo5 or bo7.
prabhbhambra13
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom424 Posts
May 10 2013 19:16 GMT
#9
He's so good and has a great work ethic. he's pretty modest too. I think he has a good chance of winning GSL and WCS as a whole.
SECO SECO SECO
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
May 10 2013 19:17 GMT
#10
He sounds like he is a terrible player.... He really wants to be the best.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 19:18:50
May 10 2013 19:17 GMT
#11
Obvious best player in the world! Really surprised by his humble and honest nature. Also agree with TvT... It's pretty chaotic. WoL TvT was so much better imo, now it feels a lot more like ZvZ or even PvP to some extent.

As for players that can beat him? I think Roro and Soulkey are both good candidates. Also sOs could as well, but I think Innovation would do much better against sOs in a bo7 than a bo1 or bo3.
tozi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States506 Posts
May 10 2013 19:18 GMT
#12
SoS and Soulkey have a chance.

WOW. I've always been the first to say innovation is overhyped, but reading this interview, I kinda feel bad. He's SOOO modest, lol.

Even if its true, he has the courage to openly admit his biggest terran rival is better than him in TVZ. Now that deserves respect.
nothing
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
May 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#13
Typical korean culture to be so humble but with innovation being so good it almost becomes sarcastic

I hope for a good gsl run!
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
PyroN
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden53 Posts
May 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#14
Thx for uploading this! You can´t dislike this guy, So humble and nice and amazing at the game!

I hope he wins the WCS!!
"That trade didn´t went good for huk,I Mean look at the supply depots now" - Copa América Caster
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
May 10 2013 19:23 GMT
#15
A player that can correlate effort and degree of improvement will go very far
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
May 10 2013 19:25 GMT
#16
Impressive - gotta like a guy who just goes to work to be good at what he does.
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 10 2013 19:26 GMT
#17
what he thinks flash has better tvz and yet innovation smashes life and 99% of other zergs O_o. Very modest he doesn't realize how imba he is
When I think of something else, something will go here
Archen
Profile Joined April 2012
United States79 Posts
May 10 2013 19:27 GMT
#18
On May 11 2013 04:13 Ph4ZeD wrote:
I personally don't think anyone can beat him that's left in the GSL. Flash or Life could possibly, in a bo5 or bo7.

Well I guess its a good thing he 2-0'd life and I think flash during Ro16. I'm pretty sure sOs can take him down considering sOs 2-0d Innovation at the AIMA
"Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse." - Liquid.Nony
Trius
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine273 Posts
May 10 2013 19:30 GMT
#19
On May 11 2013 04:18 tozi wrote:


Even if its true, he has the courage to openly admit his biggest terran rival is better than him in TVZ. Now that deserves respect.

Flash said the same about Innovation
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
May 10 2013 19:33 GMT
#20
I like his glasses-free look. Cool that he's so humble.
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Korean Royale
12:00
Open Qualifier #2
WardiTV145
LiquipediaDiscussion
Replay Cast
09:00
Crank Gathers S2: Playoffs D4
CranKy Ducklings230
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 73
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 16435
Rain 8104
Bisu 2284
Pusan 470
Stork 364
Last 224
Hyuk 179
Leta 138
Barracks 131
ToSsGirL 117
[ Show more ]
Aegong 48
Liquid`Ret 46
Sharp 41
JulyZerg 26
Icarus 24
zelot 24
Yoon 17
Free 15
sas.Sziky 15
Terrorterran 2
Dota 2
XcaliburYe913
Counter-Strike
x6flipin386
edward32
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King66
Other Games
singsing1449
B2W.Neo280
crisheroes279
Pyrionflax234
Fuzer 172
XaKoH 170
SortOf113
Happy72
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL113
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 75
• LUISG 33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2682
• Stunt575
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
2h 45m
OSC
10h 45m
The PondCast
21h 45m
LAN Event
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 10h
OSC
1d 23h
LAN Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.