Carnival Cruise Mafia

On May 13 2013 10:49 WaveofShadow wrote:

I was just curious. I saw it was mentioned that you haven't played in a little while or you used to ages ago and you seem to share the same anti-spam sentiment that RoL has who also played a long time ago. I've only played one game with him and he seemed to be a pretty angry guy. Mostly towards BH. For spamming.

On May 13 2013 11:55 kitaman27 wrote:
I present you with my completely unjustified thoughts of suspicion!



Vayne finds it necessary to post that he is around, but not posting. As mafia I find that I'm always more concerned with how others view my absence, promising future contribution or coming up with excuses why I'm not around.

WoS earns scum points for posting a mafia gif. He earns likability points for posting a simpsons gif. The conversation between WoS and chaoser doesn't seem natural. I'm not sure what's going on there.



DarthPunk's miller claim is consistent with his miller policy in past games. He does acknowledges how beneficial a mafia miller claim can be and I don't buy his argument that it's something he would never pull as mafia. It's a great plan if you're comfortable with the attention. I would feel much better about the claim if he simply stated that he claimed to not waste a town cop check, rather than explain how a mafia version of himself would play.



The wording on this seems off to me, describing an impossible scenario if he is town as unlikely, but maybe that's just semantics. I'd consider him for a lynch tomorrow.

@prplhz, why ask me in specific about my opinion of the miller claim? I already stated an anti-miller view. Did you want to push me in that direction or do you disagree that DarthPunk should be considered tomorrow as a candidate?

Also, 24 hours with functional power and sewage. Even with the plot to take over the ship and murder us all, this has already far exceeded my expectations.

On May 13 2013 14:06 Blazinghand wrote:
21 players with 5 mafia is 2kp normally. Unless someone got protected (possible) the simplest explanation is mafia is responsible for both NKs. That being said I wouldn't be surprised, looking at the signup list, if a vig herped so hard that he derped and shot DP.

On May 13 2013 14:14 Blazinghand wrote:
The problem that like you and 90% of the TL Mafia community have is that you look for complex scenarios, for WTHTD, when really most of the time you should just assume things went relatively simply. This is a fairly large game with 5 scum. Games this size, scum tends to have 2 kp. Two people flipped.

Barring a vigi claim, or like a vet claim or something weird like that, the simplest thing to think, the thing that requires the fewest butt-retarded assumptions that literally everyone but me likes to make, is that scum used 2 kp and killed 2 people, who are the guys who just flipped. I'll update this view if new information emerges, but as it is I consider the matter closed. I'm right and you guys are wrong.

On May 13 2013 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
He posted that shit about not wanting to post during the night and wait for the flips. Yeah... Scum wants to waste time, town doesnt.
Also he said that there were certain people suspciously interacting with kita, but never bothered to elaborate.

He seems to jump all over the place, no pressure on anyone so far and just useless/scummy.

On May 14 2013 00:46 Promethelax wrote:
Great Vayne. So how did they act? There were two night kills what did you learn? Because I have to read you too and you have given me a lot of nothing to work on.

Who did you look into who had weird interactions with kita? Why is that person scum?

On May 14 2013 01:16 Promethelax wrote:


you calling an eighteen page thread huge is hilarious. You'll see.

So prp is scum because of the Kita kill, what about people's interactions with DP? Why did his kill not factor into your analysis?

WoS: if everyone who has started the wagons on you has been scum are you suggesting kita is scum? (obviously not but I have no idea what you are trying to suggest. Who is scum for pushing you?)

prp and SnB, welcome back. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the leading vote owners and another player of your choice. You both know the drill. Reads and reasons.

On May 14 2013 01:33 Promethelax wrote:
Wait, what account did you play that game under? I just went through the player list twice and didn't see you. Am I blind or did you switch accounts?

On May 14 2013 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne why are you so sure mafia killed DP?

On May 14 2013 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes and after that you seemed to be sure it was mafia hit. Why did you change your point of view suddenly when BH brought up mafia KP?

On May 14 2013 06:03 Blazinghand wrote:


Almost!

I want to lynch WoS for HOW he agreed with me that scum killed DP, and I want to not lynch vayne because HOW he did his 180 on flip analysis.

Perhaps I didn't make this clear enough in my case: Whether someone buddies me, or whether someone disagrees with me, or whether someone derps or is wrong or is right, these are not how you catch scum. Scum can fake agreeing or disagreeing or being good or being bad as much as they want. A scum player could just bus all his buddies and pretend to be a master scumhunter, if all you look at is who he pushes and who he defends. I'm not saying this isn't useful information (since scum obviously don't want to bus) but this is only part of the picture.

When you hunt scum, you need to pay attention to HOW people do things, and what they are thinking (or not thinking) when they do. WoS's post, imo, could not have come from a town mindset. I don't think he'd have written what he did the way he did if he really was town and was wondering why we were in agreement. Vayne, on the other hand, really just seems to be that wrongheaded, and although I don't think of him as captain mctown, i can see how from a town PoV Vayne has written what he has.

This is how you hunt scum.

On May 14 2013 07:22 HiroPro wrote:
shirokami seems like a good lynch also.

On May 14 2013 07:26 shirokami wrote:
says a guy who wanted to waste vigshot to a miller.