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Moloch! Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch! Moloch the loveless! Mental Mo- loch! Moloch the heavy judger of men! Moloch the incomprehensible prison! Moloch the crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of sorrows! Moloch whose buildings are judgment! Moloch the vast stone of war! Moloch the stunned governments! Moloch whose mind is pure machinery! Moloch whose blood is running money! Moloch whose fingers are ten armies! Moloch whose breast is a cannibal dynamo! Moloch whose ear is a smoking tomb! Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Moloch whose skyscrapers stand in the long streets like endless Jehovahs! Moloch whose factories dream and croak in the fog! Moloch whose smokestacks and antennae crown the cities! Moloch whose love is endless oil and stone! Moloch whose soul is electricity and banks! Moloch whose poverty is the specter of genius! Moloch whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen! Moloch whose name is the Mind! #Unvote #Vote: Moloch | ||
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##Vote: Rainbows for not eating pizza | ||
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but anyway. let's get everyone in on this. it's just the 4 of us right now. | ||
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On April 05 2013 15:00 jrkirby wrote: So I'm worried about rainbows. I feel like he might actually be a fatty, and is just acting stupid by accusing random people for no reason. But the way he's acting is just stupid, and only helps the skinnies. And since he's just helping the skinnies I feel like I have to vote for him, because no one is acting as stupid as him. I don't want to lynch all the lurkers just yet - partially because there's 3 of them and it's a crapshot - and rainbows is the only other guy giving off that scum vibe. So until something changes, or one of the scum making a foolish post, my vote is on rainbows. The mafia are (probably) gonna kill one of us tonight, so it would be good if we at least have a chance of killing one of them tonight. It might not be rainbows but I feel like the chances are better than even. Yea I'm worried about rainbows too, and that's why I haven't taken my vote off him even though I initially did it as a joke. I'm hoping the Euros pick out some interesting tid bits overnight, something I may have missed, so I can change my vote to someone who is actually a skinny. I think Rainbows only looks suspicious because he's been posting a lot, which isn't exactly the best. @Obzy, yea lurkers should probably be lynched eventually. Probably not right now, but we shouldn't let them get free bys. | ||
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On April 05 2013 15:19 Obzy wrote: Hm. Here's a question for everyone - What are your thoughts on giving out townreads? Something I did a lot of in the previous game was looking at everyone's opinions of each other - like, if person A considers person B town, and so does C, D, E, F - and nobody considers them mafia, I marked it as being a "safe townread for the town." wut Let's jump on the bandwagon! Everyone else says so! They can't be lying or pretending to be town! Persons A and B can't possibly be two scums holding hands, and fooling CDEF into joining. Unless you know someone isn't a skinny, don't trust him. This line of thinking is only going to let the scum herd you. | ||
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On April 05 2013 15:30 jampidampi wrote: Scum has an easy time giving out townreads, they know who are town. On the other scum have a hard time giving out scumreads, because they are either killing their comrades or they know they are wrong, which makes it hard for them to sound that they really believe the person is scum. You can give out townreads, but if you don't hunt scum I'm going to smack you a lot with the baton of justice. Fishgle, does your post mean that you are going to sleep? Your posts so far have all been reagrding Rainbows. Any other opinions? yea, it's almost midnight here, i'm heading to bed. I've also got an eye on Moloch, but not enough to make an argument against him yet. | ||
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@Warent: You joined in much later than anyone else, and yet, you still choose to call out Rainbows? Doesn't anyone else stand as needing some scrutinizing? I mean, you can vote for and question rainbows and still investigating others. @Smancer, of everyone, I think your posts have been the most useful. Your points on jrkirby especially. He hasn't contributed much. And then he makes this post: There's actually someone else I've got my eye on now, but he hasn't shown any real evidence, it's just a hunch. how is that helpful at all? Either tell us who you're suspecting or i'll just assume you're lying. You've just been sitting back and mostly talking when people call you out.I too want to see some discussion about jampidampi. He's been jumping in and out, questioning people, but not really providing any opinions. Rather noncommital. Not only that, but he himself states people should be actively scumhunting, and doesn't do it himself. I don't like it. My scum reads at the moment are: jampidampi, jrkirby, and warent ##Unvote: Rainbows | ||
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##Unvote just wanted to point out that i'm not that suspicious of rainbows anymore. It's still a possibility that he's scum, of course, but i think most of the leads on him were badly reasoned, and he has created some good discussion overall. | ||
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However, the more i look at Warent's entrance though, the scummier it looks. He gets mad at Rainbows for questioning him and then casts an emotional vote, despite not having any evidence. I think Rainbows was just throwing out votes to create discussion. Warent however, seems dead set on lynching rainbows, and argues semantics. Now, there's an interesting back'n'forth between rainbow and warent. The most interesting thing about it is that while rainbows is defending his vote, warent instead is defending saraf. What I think happened is that rainbows blindfired, got a lucky hit on a skinny (saraf), and then warent came in to try to defend his skinny exercise buddy. It doesn't help that Saraf is so anti-"spam". Obzy has posted just as much as rainbows, and i don't see anyone complaining that he's "spamming". Discussion is useful. What are we supposed to do, chit chat about nothing while the skinnys kill us off? True, some of rainbow's posts have been less substantial than i would have liked, but he got some discussion going. I don't think that's anything to get lynched over. | ||
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we've got about 24 hours left, right? | ||
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also, i'm heading out for a party soon, probably wont post again til... 14 hours from now? I might post between party and bed, but i doubt it. | ||
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i just listed those because they're my main reads atm. i guess i should be asking for everyone's opinion. jarjar, trn, jampidampi, warent, kirby. too many people are suspicious atm. be back in long while guys. schuss | ||
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First off - fuck you rainbows, for being such an arrogant emotional mess. Here's a tip: it's less about what you say, and more about how you depict it. You didn't make any friends because of your abrasive behavior. I understand you were forced to reveal so you wouldn't get lynched, but it was your own damn fault that everyone suspected you. second - fuck you rainbows, if you're actually abandoning the game. third - THERAVENSNAME, WARENT, JAMPIDAMPI why are your votes still on rainbows? Are you guys implying that rainbows' reveal was a fake? If it were fake, there's a huge chance someone would counter-reveal, making it a terrible move for scum. it just doesn't make any sense for him to be scum, no matter how badly he plays. 4th - i think obzy has done a good job explaining further reasons as to why it's unlikely that rainbows is scum. 5th - someone asked about a comment i made about a read on Moloch. disregard it. we have bigger fish to fry now. plus, it was an early-game hunch. Moloch's posts have gotten a lot more substantive and level-headed from since i got the read. 6th - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405359¤tpage=18#345 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405359¤tpage=12#231 I really think this is the best lead we have so far, coupled with the fact that he's still pushing a lynch on rainbows, who just revealed as the vigilante. ##Vote:jampidampi | ||
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here saraf states that he would be willing to vote for a townie, just because of bad play. Is that really something a townie would do? is Rainbows's play helping town? No, not really, he's being irrational and flinging shit all over the place so trying to lynch him isn't even really a bad choice i don't like it. I mean, i would love to just vote rainbows out for playing terribly, but it's highly likely that he's town. I don't see how a mislynch is going to help us at all. As for the case against jarjar. I do think he looks scummy. But he's hardly posted at all. I think he's lazy. I think I would vote for him if jampi didn't look as scummy. It feels like you're jumping onto jarjar because he's an easy target that won't defend himself, seeing as he doesn't post at all. We can lynch him later for continued lurking, but i don't think that there's a real strong case against him atm. Smancer just pointed out something interesting too, about jrkirby On April 07 2013 08:02 Smancer wrote: I just can't believe you don't think it is suspicious and you go a step further to say you think he is town. But then again your play has mirrored his. Early case against Rainbows. Now you are both voting for the lurker. I don't think jarjar is a good vote day 1. There are plenty of other people posting with actual content to make a read on. The bottom line is that I have made a case based on actual content from jamp. So has Obzy , so has Moloch . There is no case on JarJar other than lurker. None. Why would you rather make a read on nothing other then something?? Which makes me think that jampi and jrkirby are scumbuddies. Jampi's play is completely wishy-washy, and when he's not asking banal questions, he's making noncommittal statements against others. | ||
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On April 07 2013 08:08 Obzy wrote: The goal is to kill scum, not bad town. ^^this this is newbie mafia, guys. most of us are going to play terribly. Don't punish people for being bad at the game. | ||
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I have to think about Obzy being scum. I've been trusting him too much, I think. Hmm | ||
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 I lost my lurker, guys. RIP | ||
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On April 07 2013 08:41 jrkirby wrote: If I am wrong, I don't want to lose you. <3 Twuuu wuuuuvvv <3 Alright, there's five of us here, and something came up and i have to be gone pretty soon. let's get a decision out, shall we. options: rainbows, jampi, jarjar...? I'm thinking I'm going to keep my vote on jampi. I made that decision long ago, and none of jampi's posts since have changed my mind about him too much. And furthermore, I don't wont to be pressured into making a bad vote a the last second. I don't function very well under pressure :S | ||
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