While this game looks awesome, I'm going to /out. I want to get the basics down more and the mechanics of this will distract me more than not methinks. /out

geript

10024 Posts

March 29 2013 23:29 GMT

#64

This just in. VE likes shit. Weirdo

geript

10024 Posts

March 30 2013 22:27 GMT

#67

I guess I'll /in again. I really just want to play.

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 02:02 GMT

#126

I'm going to screw up the early pickers by fighting for [1][1].

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 03:11 GMT

#139

I was thinking on the way home. What if instead of prioritizing the roles we pick according to character, we instead take the best KP role and then claim it in the thread. This will mean that at worst we'll have a 50/50 to hit scum day 1 if someone selects into vanilla since there would be no reason to lie as town. Additionally, we'd have the same advantage as scum would have in their QT. Plus, it would maximize the town roles available.

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 03:49 GMT

#145

@Shelvocke So your plan is to just keep everything hidden in order to prevent Mafia from getting any extra knowledge?

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 06:04 GMT

#184

I'm more than happy to end up as 'effective' VT by taking an anti-scum pick if I get to pick early. I don't really care. I'd love to be some super role with awesome powers. I'm more concerning with learning how to play well than getting to use amazing roles. I have more than enough time for that. I agree that investigative roles are nice, but let's not depend on 'blues' to do our scumhunting for us. We can scumhunt whenever. I just really don't understand why Oats doesn't like the 'block' play at all? Can you explain that oats? Because the 'play to have fun' idea is nice and neat, but winning is always more fun than anything else.

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 07:13 GMT

#188

The problem with said mayoral election is that we also have to plan for second options and on top of it some people may disagree and/or just do whatever the fuck they were planning on doing. Like I said before, if people want me to get a "enhanced" vanilla role, I'm cool with that. Me having a gun is likely a very, very bad idea. My best position is as role thief. It's not quite what I'd like to do, but the best move is the best move and the move that should be made.

So if we get say 3-4 townies who are supposed to pick say 1-4 in a specific order, is there any really good counterplan from scum other than trying to get scum in those positions?

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 16:20 GMT

#338

As far as I see it, you need to actually block about 5 roles. You really have to start with Thief, Copycat and Role Swapper. Then you have another 2-5 exceptionally pro-scum roles (janitor, vote rigger, hooker, kingmaker). Sidenote on being the King--Newer players please do not use the King's ability to lynch someone if you are given the option; IT was given to you for a reason... DON"T USE IT. It also doesn't prevent scum from grabbing less good, but very acceptable roles like JOAT, Vig, Emperor, Fake Steve. Any sort of KP role is very good for scum.

The problem that I'm having with the current plan is that it even if you prevent the 5 super scum powers really what you're doing is giving them exactly which 'acceptable but not superpowered' roles they can choose freely.

New plan: Instead of having a set 'draft list' in that say people drafting from 1-4 need to choose from a list of ABCD roles. People drafting from 5-8 need to draft from a list of EFGH, etc. etc. This makes it very risky for Scum to draft both outside of their own list and inside of their own list.

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 16:28 GMT

#340

Right, if we get people to choose from a list even if mafia go early, they have a problem selecting from a list above them and must instead pick from a list below them. While they'll be able to coordinate things as such, it still makes them pick less powerful roles in general instead of more powerful roles.

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 16:32 GMT

#344

Hey Palmar, you want to tell me if you're safe to sheep this game or not?

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 17:59 GMT

#388

@Caller what do you think of my plan?
@All Would everyone be okay if I came up with a set of 5 pods of rolls and the pods to be selected from in specific picks? I'd expect some feedback and editing on them.

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 18:14 GMT

#406

On April 05 2013 03:04 Keirathi wrote:

Show nested quote +

I'll be completely honest and say I hate plans like this.

The game is called Pick YOUR Power. Not Let Everyone Else Pick Your Power For You.

For one, I just don't see everyone agreeing, and to me it just ruins the fun of the game type.

Nothing prevents you from picking a completely different power though. That's the awesomeness of it. By having a specific plan of this sort, so long as even 50% of town goes by this sort of plan, then the plan can seriously fuck up scum. You STILL get to pick whatever oddball power that you want, but if a majority agree that it's a good plan it because exceptionally dangerous for scum to both follow and not follow. Why can't you as a strong player decide push this plan and try and get others to follow it? Can't you realize the merit it has? Or do you have an actual objection to the plan other than just "Me no likey?"

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 18:50 GMT

#444

Oats, you're really starting to feel like BH last game.

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 19:18 GMT

#472

On April 05 2013 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why do you think all 3 ppl at the top won't pick the same role of those three if you don't want people to claim what did they pick?

Having the top 3-5 have preset picks is both unfun and non-productive. It tells scum who to thieve/swap with. That's why the preset pick list is bad. It's exactly why my plan of pod picks is much, much better. It gives people freedom to choose while still providing strong uncertainty as to what exactly has been happening.

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 19:20 GMT

#473

On April 05 2013 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We can't control anyone. Denying "scum roles" in 1-> is stupid.
So we disagree.

Well, you're just wrong. Preventing scum from getting the obviously powerful scum roles is exceptionally bad for town. Especially with roles like Janitor. Shit can go bad exceptionally fast in that regard. Roles aren't that important for town. Town will be smart and lynch scum. It's going to happen. Preventing "bad shit" is just as important as being able to do "cool shit."

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 19:22 GMT

#475

Night oats

geript

10024 Posts

April 04 2013 19:41 GMT

#479

Ok, what are your reasons for suspecting those 3 specifically?