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On March 22 2013 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's pretty interesting you say this. How do you propose we actually get the game going if everyone acts like this? Well ironically, it seems like my post helped get the game going . I wasn't implying that I'd just sit back and not post @ all. Just saying that I don't know much insight I can offer untill I see more from everyone. I really just wanted to tell u guys that I would most definately not be a lurker. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On March 22 2013 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you feel like you have to tell people you won't be lurking when nobody is even accusing you of lurking? Why so defensive? Afraid of something? Nobody specifically accused me of lurking, true. But there was like 3 posts telling people people to stop lurking or something similiar. Since I was one of the people who had yet to post (plus I have a vote on me), I thought I'd tell people that they needn't worry about lurking from me. I figured that'd be better than just posting a meaningless "Hi guys, I'm in the game" | ||
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On March 22 2013 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, nothing stands out to me because aside from you, no one else has really posted anything with any actual content. And your posts all seem fine to me.What do you think of the other posts after yours. Is there anything that stands out? | ||
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On March 22 2013 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's my point. There are three votes on people already and nobodywonder's FoS on you. I find it really odd that people post about Harry Potter stuff when there actually is something to talk to. That doesn't really qualify as "get the game going", does it? No it doesn't. When I said my post seemed to "get the game going", I was refering to the FoS and your post questioning me. | ||
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On March 22 2013 22:28 TheRavensName wrote: Pointing out that I'm suspicious and hostile (am I being hostile?) to make sure everybody else is aware of it but then posting a weak defense for me.I gotta agree that jarjars post and hostility might be a little suspicious... however I know I did something similar in the last nmm and ended up doing some pretty decent work so I see no reason to punish it till after other people show up. Day 1 is a scary and uncertain period for those unsure how to get the ball rolling. Basically telling everyone: You should suspect jarjar, but I don't. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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- Raven is saying "JarJar might be suspicious but might not be". What's the point of saying so? Someone is suspicious or not. Mafia tends to do that because they would already know they are accusing a townie and it's easier to retract from your accusation if you give yourself an out in the first place. The other thing it can do is set that townie up when the scummy eventually gets lynched and turns up red. Like his teammates can point out "Look, he defended jarjar" after he turns up red. | ||
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I think TheRavensName is mafia. me too##Vote: TheRavensName | ||
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On March 23 2013 04:26 Frorgon wrote: The impression I got was that you realized your scum buddy made a pretty scummy post and got called out on it. So you made sure to call him out as well while @ the same time trying to cast suspicion on me by implying that we were teammates:@ray The point I was trying to make was that Raven pointed out jarjar as potentially suspicious, and then later in the same post backed off and said that the behavior could possibly explained. It's a scum move to give the appearance of suspecting someone in order to look useful, only to avoid committing to it later on. in the same post. Why would you accuse him of trying to cover for me when I had just called him out on his post? | ||
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On March 23 2013 05:06 Frorgon wrote: I feel like the reason for that should be obvious.So keep in mind what you said here jarjar. Now why would Raven suspect you and then soft defend you if he is scum and you are not? If you're town wouldn't he just push for your lynch? Scum doesn't want to be responsible for lynching a townie but he still wants a townie lynched So basically he points out that I'm suspicious and hostile hoping to maybe influence some people and get me lynched. Then when I turn up green, he doesn't look suspicious because he "defended" me and can go after one of the people that voted for me. I would think that the best result for mafia is getting a townie lynched with the least amount of scum voting for that person. And notice that he still left himself an out so he could go back to voting for me if the situation required it. He said he sees "no reason to punish it till after other people show up." | ||
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On March 23 2013 05:42 nobodywonder wrote: sup Jar Jar, what's with this vote? what kind of evidence is this? this is weak town play/kinda scummy: it seems like this kind of thinking: oh herp, ray thinks raven is scummy; oh i think so too => sheep vote. it's interesting/suspicious, since more or less you have identified some scummy behavior, but still only quote a sentiment... my FoS has upgraded to a Hand of Suspicion HoS on you. You're taking this out of context. Yeah this was one post but I had made several prior to this post already stating my reasons. In fact Ray voted for raven based on my initial read of his post. I stated why I thought Ravens post was scummy. Then when ray posted his analysis which confirmed what I was thinking, I stated that I agreed with him in believing Raven is mafia. Not sure how you can interpret that as a sheep vote. | ||
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On March 22 2013 23:03 Frorgon wrote: What's wrong Raven? You guys trying to cover each other's ass? On March 23 2013 04:16 Frorgon wrote: @Rainbows I wasn't necessarily suspicious of Raven. I was trying to provoke some more discussion, because up until that point there hadn't been much. I'd get a gist about Raven based on his response and I think I was fairly successful in that. Comparing it to the previous game I'd say as of now he leans town for me. Does that first post sound like someone that's trying to provoke discussion or sound like someone accusing people of being scummy? It seems to me that Frorg is clearly trying to imply scumminess. But he's saying that he was just trying to get a reaction, which maybe would be believable if his next post wasn't this: On March 23 2013 04:26 Frorgon wrote: Huh? I thought you just said that your comment was to provoke discussion, NOT because you thought Raven was scummy? @ray The point I was trying to make was that Raven pointed out jarjar as potentially suspicious, and then later in the same post backed off and said that the behavior could possibly explained. It's a scum move to give the appearance of suspecting someone in order to look useful, only to avoid committing to it later on. in the same post. So while I'm still suspicious of Raven. I don't think he looks as scummy as Frorgon does. ##Unvote: TheRavensName ##Vote: Frorgon | ||
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On March 25 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ray, I think I've been on the same page as you most of this game. But I have to disagree with you on this one. I was online @ the deadline and could have switched to Krafla. But giving him a free pass from day 1 wasn't a concern of mine. I voted Frorgon because I thought he was the most likely to be scum. And while Kraflas one post was pretty terrible, it wasn't enough to give me a scum read. @ least nowhere near the read I had Frogorn.The worst part is we should have definitely lynched Krafla. There is no question about it. Now everyone just gave him a free pass from D1. That's so incredibly dumb. When you voted for Krafla, was it because you thought he was the most likely person to be scum? | ||
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On March 25 2013 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: For one, I was also under the impression night phase talking might be frowned upon. But also, I didn't really see the need to say anything. I was only responding to your post to say I disagreed w/ you about how not giving him a free pass was a good reason to vote for him.If you were online, why didn't you say anything after the flip? Why did you wait until now to come up with this? | ||
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On March 25 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: As I said already, I didn't vote for him because I thought Frogorn was more likely to be scum. I can't tell you exactly what I'm willing to do @ the end of day 2. If Krafla doesn't contribute again than he's certainly someone I'm gonna suspect. But if I have a better scum read on someone, than that's where my vote is going.If Krafla does not contribute on D2, are you willing to lynch him in the end of D2? If yes, then why didn't you want to lynch him in the end of D1? | ||
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On March 25 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: In a manner of speaking. But if he continues to lurk how he has been (especially w/ all the FoSing that I'm sure will be headed his way come daytime) then I doubt anyone else will appear as scummy to me. But you never know, someone could make a real bad slip up.So you are basically giving someone an option to hardcore lurk if you just find someone more scummy? | ||
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