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Keirathi
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I won't be home for an hour or two, but I'll catch up soon. | ||
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Keirathi
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##Join: SAST (As far as I've gotten into reading, this is still a thing. If its not, then disregard.) Still reading. AFK | ||
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On March 19 2013 13:31 sciberbia wrote: @BH Can you explain why you chose to mason GK and then VE? Also, I think you might as well claim your role in full and tell us if you are allowed to post the mason logs or not. Probably wait until the daypost to do this though. Yo scib I still haven't finished reading (I got caught up in huge IRC chat, and Hydra+Personality ending), but why do you seem all bark and no bite this game? You know I have a *TON* of respect for your town game. I'm not feeling it so far this game, though. What do? | ||
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On March 19 2013 13:59 sciberbia wrote:  And I was so looking forward to your first post Keirathi. Yea I'm not too happy with my play this game either. I hate lynching townies. As to "all bark and no bite" I know what you mean. This game feels different to me, maybe because of the size. I feel like I haven't been guiding town sufficiently well.Don't know what else to say though. Maybe you have *TOO* much respect for my town game. I'll do my best to not disappoint on D2. How bout that. Also, please be town. Meh. You've consistently been the "best" townie (well, maybe you could argue that you weren't the best in Not Another Normal, but no one was really spectacular and you NAILED talis) in every game I've seen/been apart of. So yea, I expect a lot from you, and I've been pretty disappointed up until page 25 or so. And in these last few pages since I replaced in. | ||
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On March 19 2013 14:14 Wade Fell wrote: doesn't matter, I'm either dead anyways due to NK and what you think is meaningless, or I have 48 hours to push my reads and how "long" it takes to convince you is not relevant. Actually, as scum? Yes. :| Anyone who has seen me play scum can tell you I am literally the least talented scum player in existence, as untalented as scum as I am talented at town. You weren't the worst scum player in Parallel. | ||
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On March 19 2013 14:17 Wade Fell wrote: Yeah but we had a shit scumteam also my play this game has literally nothing in common with my play in parallel It does have a few similarities (you latch on to a "weak" player and refuse to let go), but for the most part I agree. At least until I see some flips. | ||
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On March 19 2013 14:19 Mocsta wrote: Keirathi, you reminding me a lot of u in hydra All The guy Kei replaced.. was he a town, null or scum read? The guy I replaced had 0 posts. | ||
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I know, right? | ||
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On March 19 2013 14:22 Wade Fell wrote: I actually had a HYOOOJ townread on the guy you replaced Scum. | ||
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On March 19 2013 14:26 Mocsta wrote: Im just gonna put it out there.. im finding this interaction odd.. im not saying its scummy... theres just something peculiar about it, feels forced *Insert "I don't always call someone scum, but when I do, I don't" image macro* | ||
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Lol, I remember that getting linked in some other recent game. I even went to the site to make my own, but then I remembered no pictures so I stopped. Anyways, I'm going to quit spamming pointless stuff and go back to reading. | ||
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On March 19 2013 05:34 RyuSuzaku wrote: well, that sucks. I was pretty convinced GM was scum given how suspicious he was acting. Pretty disappointing play from him, especially given his incredibly strong role. Obviously I was wrong, but I'm town and I had completely valid reasons for attacking GM. Oh yea, this is something I wanted to talk about before night ended. I know I just had this whole conversation in end-game for Personality, but this is not a townie mindset. I've never seen nor played with Ryu, so I can't quite put myself into his shoes and think about if a townie Ryu would say that, but it is definitely not how *MOST* townies think. Especially when literally he only had 6 posts the entire day 1, and every single one of them was focused on sandro/GM. Why wasn't he in here trying to figure the game out more? You don't get to bitch about someone else playing "bad" when you do nothing for an entire day but tunnel a townie. Definitely on the top of my list for right now. Still reading, afk. | ||
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On March 19 2013 14:55 goodkarma wrote: Hi all. I'm back for a little bit. First, yes I was in BH's QT for day one. His motive was he wanted to get a chance to talk to me, and since he felt I had a decent chance of getting mislynched he chose me for day one. If you were to ask me that's a pretty fucking townie motive. You can't exactly manipulate the dead... Granted, the actual QT was only put up for the last few hours of the day. It extended from shortly before his voteswitch to GM onward. His thought process he used in describing his reads is the same thought process he's taught me to use as a town player. The one thing that's stuck out to me though, and the largest reason I'd say I have a strong townread on him, is his rather avid defense of me for most of the game. This is a guy that's bent over backwards to do whatever he could to prevent my mislynch. As scum, there would simply be no motive for this. As far as his cases go that he's posted in forum, I would agree with VE's assessment that they could be better. But we DID need to consolidate our votes, so his voteswitch to GM (and lack of pursuit of his top scumreads thereafter who clearly weren't going to get lynched) does make sense to me. I'd give him day 2 to improve his scumhunting. I am confident that he will prove to all of you that he is town. You are wrong. I can demonstrably show a scum BH hard defending "town reads" when it benefits him. | ||
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On March 19 2013 15:05 sciberbia wrote: Keirathi, talk to me about zarepath. Everything in his filter says scum to me but he keeps reminding me of my Forumite mistake from Dwarf Mini with his apologies and multiple self-contradictions. I'd greatly appreciate your opinion on him. I'll go read his filter. Brb. | ||
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On March 19 2013 15:11 goodkarma wrote: So my question then is this: in what way would it be beneficial for scum BH to hard defend me day one like he did? I just don't see it... Are you blind? The benefit is that you're in here right now making this argument for him :o Plus, its still possible that you are scum together, in which case the benefit is much more obvious. | ||
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On March 19 2013 15:14 WaveofShadow wrote: That would be devious as fuck, and seems really unlikely. How is it devious? Scum players defend town players all the time. Why do they do it? Because they can get "town cred" for it because they know that they are right. Hell, just look at this filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=387591&user=133498¤tpage=All That's BH's scum filter from Parallel. You can see how much time he spends defending his town reads. | ||
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I'm not interested in lynching zare right now. For one, I don't know his meta and I don't have time to read it tonight. But for two, he's mostly reading as newbie town to me. I completely disagree with his case on Hopeless, but that's because I am very familiar with Hopeless' play. But otherwise, he brought up some solid points on Hopeless and Wiggles. He seems to be trying to figure things out like a newbie town would. My biggest problem with his play, actually, is him playing the newbie card. But that's not enough that I'm interested in him for now. He's fine to leave alive a bit longer and see how things progress. | ||
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On March 19 2013 15:31 Mocsta wrote: U liked his first post? As a funny tidbit: zarepath done some weird shit as newbie town. Last game i played with him, he wrote a fake case on someone he had a town read on.. to gauge reactions.. the fake case was so good. the target (WaveofShadow IIRC pertty much gave up LOL) No, I didn't "like" his first post. It is full of bad rationale and terrible arguments ("Someone told me that VE always claims town in his opening post, but him doing it this game is scummy anyways"). But that's not exactly the kind of things I expect a newbie scum to say either. Honestly, it feels like a newbie town trying to have a good reason to start posting, but failing. His thoughts are free-flowing and not pre-constructed. He's not being "clean" with them. Etc/etc. | ||
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