EPT(I'm hoping this doesnt start for a couple of days. I have a friend in town until Saturday morning, so should be fine)
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Keirathi
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(I'm hoping this doesnt start for a couple of days. I have a friend in town until Saturday morning, so should be fine) | ||
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Keirathi
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On February 08 2013 22:19 Sylencia wrote: Village Idiot roles - mainly ones where the mod has to make sure the VI says or does something each day. With 25 people in this game, it'd make life pretty hard for the mods. Hmm, I always understood VI to be aka jester, which is a role that wins when it gets lynched. | ||
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On February 09 2013 01:39 gonzaw wrote: This I have this urge to in....but I'm not sure  Do it. | ||
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On February 09 2013 15:41 wherebugsgo wrote: the last thing we need IMO is people to focus too hard on throwing blues into setups when the forum suffers from people afking or just not playing the game. Anything beyond vanilla is frosting on the cake that is mafia, and to me a cake made nothing of frosting is pretty sickening (although I don't really like cake...) In other words, if people can't even play vanilla roles, why bother throwing complicated or "fun" roles into the game? Half the time a cool role gets completely wasted by a modkill or replacement and then we have players and hosts who are forced to pick up the pieces afterward (aka deal with the banlist) This is, of course, just my opinion. Take it how you will. That's kind of the beauty of such heavily themed games like Aperture/etc. With (nearly) everyone having some kind of abilities, the loss of a couple from people not playing is minimalized much more than in a game where there are 3 blues and 2 of them don't play. | ||
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On February 12 2013 04:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: Sigh... /in No idea how pick your power shit works, but I guess I need to find out eventually PYP is generally like...the host gives out a list of available roles, then there is a "draft" for the roles. Draft order can be determined a lot of ways, but that's for GreYMisT to decide. | ||
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Nah, I sent in a different role that I still like, but not quite as much as my first idea. | ||
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Let us all enjoy this wonderful gathering of friends with a hanging! (PS, I will vote instant-majority. Hidden ballot is bad, mayor not bad but i would rather have a say in the lynch than putting it in the hands of one person.) | ||
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On February 13 2013 10:21 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm quite hung indeed. /terror | ||
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On February 13 2013 11:18 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't really see any benefit in our role receiver knowing that we made their role. And yeah, instant voting obv best choice right now. There's probably not any benefit, but I doubt there's much downside either. The only thing it really does is say "Hey I'm watching you. You better use my role how I intended it to be used." | ||
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On February 13 2013 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote: BH is town, he is just horrible at the game. Dandel Ion, Im not so sure. He hasnt done anything so far. And what exactly has BH done that makes you so sure that he is town? | ||
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On February 13 2013 12:40 Blazinghand wrote: Look, think about your thought process as a townie when you evaluated the three options. You probably rejected the Secret Ballot out of hand barring some weird circumstances because it takes information away from town, then you thought about Mayoral and Instant Majority. Thinking about the strengths and drawbacks of both, you'd note that Mayoral elections produce a different kind of discussion than lynch votes (not necessarily better or worse) and the actual vote itself tends to be about who says they'll use the lynch on whom and who you have a town-read on. Instant Majority sounds dangerous but actually buts the scum under a lot of pressure assuming nobody gets dumb and jumps the gun on the hammer. But what you don't think about, and I'm certain nobody town aligned thinks about as a main reason not to use mayoral, is the possibility of making a scum player mayor. It's a risk of mayoral, but it's not the reason you wouldn't run it-- after all, if what the mayor does is pick who gets lynched, picking a scum player to be mayor isn't a huge risk. We're not giving powers to the scumteam, and in fact, having a scum under that spotlight could be very helpful to town. From a townie perspective, which any townie will have, you probably want instant majority because it's simple and lets you lynch someone. You want your vote to do something and you want to put pressure on the scum. You don't reject mayoral because a scum might get elected-- this might actually be the best outcome short of a townie get elected and lynching scum. You reject mayoral because instant majority is better and gives you more power to hunt scum. Oats came into this giving reasoning that comes from a mindset not of townie scumhunting, but of scum shirking responsibility and blending in, and thinking fearfully. I thought this was pretty obvious, guys While I see where you are coming from, I did actually think about electing scum as a mayor being a big downside to Mayoral vs Instant. For one, it is immensely difficult to tell the difference between a town mayor lynching another townie, and a scum mayor lynching a townie. And for two, its much harder to hold people accountable for their votes in an 'everything-goes-wrong' mayoral election. Mayoral elections tend to turn into "Follow the vet" more than "elect the towniest person in the game". | ||
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On February 13 2013 12:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Also, BH is town, because as scum, there is no point to put yourself under the spotlight this early when you can use that post later in a larger analysis. You don't see scum "putting themselves in the spotlight" to get towncred for shitting on a bad post? I dont even... | ||
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On February 13 2013 12:55 Oatsmaster wrote: Also, I think scum BH is better at the game. At least he appears to be better than town BH. Then you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Have you ever read a scum BH game? Like the time where he fake voted for himself right after the deadline? Or the time when he claimed Cop night 0, was caught in his lie, then trolled for all of day 1? How about read town BH in Rock Band, where he was the towniest player day 1 and was shot night 1 for it? Or Liquid City, which was basically the same (except he replaced in, on a smurf)? Why are you making shit up? :o | ||
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On February 13 2013 13:01 austinmcc wrote: Maaaaaaaaaaaaaan, Keirathi. I had similar thoughts, but I wanted to see what oats was referencing before bringing that up. Sorry, if I had refreshed before posting I would have seen your post and held off. | ||
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On February 13 2013 13:43 Blazinghand wrote: Oatsmaster, most people who have played with me extensively are aware I'm very active and aggressive as both scum and town, and am highly prone to shenanigans as any alignment. I won't comment as to my own guilt. Experience tells me I will do too good a job of prosecuting myself, and convince you that I am guilty - or else you will decide that my prosecution was too half-hearted, and that I am scum. I will remark only this in my defense - that I have never been mislynched as town, and get lynched all the time as scum. What are you even defending yourself from? He's done nothing but call you townie :o | ||
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On February 13 2013 13:39 Oatsmaster wrote: Someone asked why not mayoral. So I answered to the best of my ability. Am I really the only person with a town read on BH? Well yeah BH, I thought you were trolling, as you have a tendency to troll early game. Clearly you are not as can be seen from your wall of text. It doesn't matter what my read (or anyone elses, for that matter) on BH is. We are talking about YOUR read and YOUR reasons for it. You non-challantly expressed your read as soon as he started pushing you, then when someone pressured you about it, you gave some half-assed justification for it (and I call it half-assed because it can be so easily refuted). | ||
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On February 13 2013 13:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: Is that a challenge? ##vote BlazingHand Teehee, I like you already :D (Just don't remind me about Dwarf Fortress.) | ||
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