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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 18 2013 03:03 GMT
#154
/in
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 20 2013 03:41 GMT
#248
/confirm
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 20 2013 03:47 GMT
#249
hello peeps

i have a laser tag tournament tonight (in 78 minutes, so i gotta leave for it soon) but i want to announce my awesome plan. i call it the "make annul, a fucking incredible all-star, ultimate commander of killing scum" plan.

or, for short, the MAFIA SUCKS plan.

basically, you elect me mayor, and i kill scum for you. do it for PATRIOTISM.

also, because i have run for mayor every single time for like the past 10 games and have never won the election =(
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 20 2013 03:57 GMT
#253
fuck you toad; you would rather vote someone who does not even want the candidacy instead of me? =(
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 20 2013 13:51 GMT
#352
On January 20 2013 19:44 Vivax wrote:
Three people so far have expressed concerns about my activity: gonzaw, Axle and JieXian.

{...}

Who would be happy with a JieXian lynch? I would be!


blatant OMGUS?

FOS vivax
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#586
On January 20 2013 23:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nice First post annul. Why/Why not will you be running for mayor?


i suggest you read the thread more closely
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#588
also good morning people.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 03:11 GMT
#592
On January 21 2013 05:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Annul mind telling us some of your thoughts? You're one of the preferred guys to vote for me but you're not really giving me anything to go with...


blatant OMGUS?

FOS vivax[/QUOTE]not funny, but still useless post considering it's you.

Other than that there's only your first post of the game to go by.
[/QUOTE]


well, as i said, i went to a laser tag tournament last night and then i went right to sleep. i have had maybe 90 minutes looking at this thread since the game started. however, pointing out bad play like vivax's line there is hardly "useless" no matter who says it.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 03:22 GMT
#602
On January 21 2013 11:11 yamato77 wrote:
Does anyone feel compelled to respond to me at all when I ask why people think Vivax is town?


probably cuz they are his red teammates
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 03:34 GMT
#606
as for vivax, hes tunneling the shit out of jiexian for some reason (OMGUS-based for sure)... runs for mayor, saying "i will lynch d1 who i want even if town wants someone else" and then randomly votes for sandroba for mayor soon thereafter, who isnt even running?

then, yamato calls him out (like i did), and even more recently, vivax now wants to lynch yamato. does this guy do anything other than OMGUSing?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 03:35 GMT
#607
conclusion: vivax is either bright red or a really, really unskilled noob at mafia. not pro-town right now in any capacity
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 03:44 GMT
#615
also, toad's read on vivax is pretty questionable. vivax is playing very not-pro-town right now and toad literally thinks he is "the second most confirmed town, next to himself?" waaaaaaaaaat

he is slightly more on the red side of the spectrum for me right now. he accounts for like 12% of the game's posts right now, and he has put a lot of information on the table. if i am right and toad is red, it is certain that he has linked himself to other reds in the game based on his day 1 play.

i would not be upset with a vivax day 1 kill, because i think he is red, and 1. it kills a red d1, and 2. it keeps toad on the table and if his play continues to reveal him as being red, then we get 2 days of him digging holes for his team instead of 1 day.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 03:56 GMT
#622
On January 21 2013 12:48 Djodref wrote:
@ annul

Do you really think Vivax or Toad could get lynched today ?
I wouldn't lynch the most vocal players on D1, so I'm against it, but do you think you can convince enough people to lynch them ?


i only really need to convince one person. perhaps whoever does win the election (protip: VOTE FOR ME!) will be swayed by my commentary. that's all i can hope for.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 04:12 GMT
#632
On January 15 2013 06:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This is a semi-open setup. Roles will be disclosed, but numbers will remain hidden. Read this section carefully, as it may be subject to change.


does this mean that there will be at least one of every role, or is "zero" a possible "number that will remain hidden?"
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 05:04 GMT
#663
On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor?
Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours?
Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia?



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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 05:38 GMT
#680
On January 21 2013 14:10 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 14:06 grush57 wrote:
On January 21 2013 14:04 annul wrote:
On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor?
Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours?
Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia?



[image loading]


wifom?

I don't know what that picture means. Would be nice to know wether that "wifom?" was directed at me, directed at annul or just an explanation of the picture because I have no idea what it is.



yes, i am calling your statement wifom. that picture is from the movie "the princess bride;" specifically, the scene where the phrase "wine in front of me" comes from. youtube it.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 05:39 GMT
#681
On January 21 2013 14:11 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 12:35 annul wrote:
conclusion: vivax is either bright red or a really, really unskilled noob at mafia. not pro-town right now in any capacity


Anul, I am not well versed in meta of many players but...
While alignments change from game to game
is it actually plausible to you that: Vivax is: "really unskilled noob at mafia. "
and that is the explanation for the posting that i have seen
(although i am not sure it the same stuff you are reacting too as you did not say what that was it was left to my imagination...?)

I am not sure i believe: that you think that a mafia player doing what Vivax has done is:
not pro-town right now in any capacity

It (several things I saw and commented on) did generate noise, when scum hunting activity was low.
Indeed Oats seems to have misstepped as town in many eyes(inc mine) by interfering with it

could you please clarify what you think was "either bright red or a really, really unskilled noob at mafia."

also I dont understand how you cannot have read on Vivax's mafia skill level that would
let you... for yourself distinguish those.

it feels like an invitation for me to fall into a false confirmation bias from you presenting a knowingly false dichotomy.

I could always be wrong about your skill level though.


i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, except for this part: "could you please clarify what you think was "either bright red or a really, really unskilled noob at mafia.""

and for the answer to that part, you should read the post i make directly above my conclusion post.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 06:12 GMT
#691
On January 21 2013 14:46 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 14:38 annul wrote:
On January 21 2013 14:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 21 2013 14:06 grush57 wrote:
On January 21 2013 14:04 annul wrote:
On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor?
Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours?
Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia?



[image loading]


wifom?

I don't know what that picture means. Would be nice to know wether that "wifom?" was directed at me, directed at annul or just an explanation of the picture because I have no idea what it is.



yes, i am calling your statement wifom. that picture is from the movie "the princess bride;" specifically, the scene where the phrase "wine in front of me" comes from. youtube it.

A clever man once told me townies end up saying : "I don't think that's a reasonable assumption at all"
Mafias usually say: "That's totally wifom! (although it makes sense it's not confirmed!)"

and it's not comming down to him being too stupid to be mafia like yamato said (although I've got to admit that's part of it) but rather his carefree posting and him not being scared at all, like gonzaw mentioned as well.


a clever man once told me "do not use wifom arguments in mafia games" but alas

i am not talking about people "being too stupid" or whatever, i am referring specifically to your comments saying basically "do you really think a mafia would do something like that?" which is literally textbook wifom
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 06:53 GMT
#704
On January 21 2013 15:42 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 14:39 annul wrote:
On January 21 2013 14:11 AxleGreaser wrote:
On January 21 2013 12:35 annul wrote:
conclusion: vivax is either bright red or a really, really unskilled noob at mafia. not pro-town right now in any capacity


Anul, I am not well versed in meta of many players but...
While alignments change from game to game
is it actually plausible to you that: Vivax is: "really unskilled noob at mafia. "
and that is the explanation for the posting that i have seen
(although i am not sure it the same stuff you are reacting too as you did not say what that was it was left to my imagination...?)

I am not sure i believe: that you think that a mafia player doing what Vivax has done is:
not pro-town right now in any capacity

It (several things I saw and commented on) did generate noise, when scum hunting activity was low.
Indeed Oats seems to have misstepped as town in many eyes(inc mine) by interfering with it

could you please clarify what you think was "either bright red or a really, really unskilled noob at mafia."

also I dont understand how you cannot have read on Vivax's mafia skill level that would
let you... for yourself distinguish those.

it feels like an invitation for me to fall into a false confirmation bias from you presenting a knowingly false dichotomy.

I could always be wrong about your skill level though.


i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, except for this part: "could you please clarify what you think was "either bright red or a really, really unskilled noob at mafia.""

and for the answer to that part, you should read the post i make directly above my conclusion post.


Anul considering Vivaxs meta do you believe it is a truthful possibility that Vivax is "really unskilled noob at mafia."
if that not the case why do you present it as an emotionally inflammatory alternative.

Your other option is "vivax is either bright red"

Is this is a false dichotomy, are they really in your eyes the only two options?

You also say "not pro-town right now in any capacity" This Presume goes with "really unskilled noob at mafia." as you appear to be saying the only way for player to be so not pro-town is to be a really unskilled noob.

If that is not false dichotomy, would you please explain how you regard so many players who flipped town in LVIII who were not
"really unskilled noob at mafia." to appear "not pro-town right now in any capacity" in hindsight.




i have no idea what his meta is. i do not place stock in "metas" unlike most people here. whether someone is an unskilled noob has nothing to do with someone's "meta" per se.

as to your direct question, "do you believe it is a truthful possibility that Vivax is "really unskilled noob at mafia,"" the answer is obviously "yes" or i would not have said it.

you ask me "Is this is a false dichotomy, are they really in your eyes the only two options?" and to this i say "these are my reads." i have made incorrect reads in the past, sure. so, there are really three options: 1. bright red; 2. he's a mega noob; 3. my reads are wrong today. i tend not to play this game assuming #3, though.

"as you appear to be saying the only way for player to be so not pro-town is to be a really unskilled noob." -- no, you can be "not-pro-town" by being a mafia, too. hence why i phrased it this way: mafia or meganoob.

i did not play in nor read 58 and even if i did, i do not place ANY value on metas whatsoever. i understand i am in the minority with this.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 21 2013 06:54 GMT
#706
On January 21 2013 15:52 debears wrote:
However, I think a Toad red flip would actually make vivax green



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